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Originally posted by: przero
And ban products from any countries that do not have as stringent environmental laws as we do. Good for the environment and good for the U.S.

here here!


problem is i bet that commie WTO would tell us to piss off and slap us with sanctions if we did
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: tallest1
Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Thanks for posting this. Another confirmation that U.S. Companies must drop the "U.S." in front of them and be designated the "Foriegn" Companies that they are.

A fair and level playing field is all anyone is asking for.

And even if that happened, that would change things in what way? Oh right, it wouldn't change things at all. That's what I thought.

Its good to see that your "me me me" mentality has finally shown through. We're not arguing for a level playing ground so that companies are forced to come back to the US. We're arguing so that these highly talented and/or key producers of goods and services are treated as such. However, you're too busy hoping for blood stained soil and cheaper t-shirt prices to care.

Why don't you try posting again when you can make sense or did you offshore your posting? :Q

Tallest makes perfect sense, you on the other hand....

Then why don't you use your big brain and interpret it for me. Oh wait, you have no clue. I forgot, you like anyone that goes against anything I say.
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: przero
A good start for worker in the the U.S. - Buy products that are "Made in the U.S.A."

And ban products from any countries that do not have as stringent environmental laws as we do. Good for the environment and good for the U.S.

So you're saying all the people that pirate software that is written in the US are hurting us. And you're also saying that all the people who steal music are hurting us, because that is American made as well. I wonder what all the people who think music should be free would say to that?

So you're saying those highly polluting gas trimmers that Dave bought to support his friends the "Sand Thugs" and to pollute the environment should be banned!? :Q Don't tell him that while he's out wacking his weeds and destroying our air.
 

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"So you're saying all the people that pirate software that is written in the US are hurting us. And you're also saying that all the people who steal music are hurting us, because that is American made as well. I wonder what all the people who think music should be free would say to that?

So you're saying those highly polluting gas trimmers that Dave bought to support his friends the "Sand Thugs" and to pollute the environment should be banned!? Don't tell him that while he's out wacking his weeds and destroying our air. "

WHAT? What are you talking about?
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: przero
"So you're saying all the people that pirate software that is written in the US are hurting us. And you're also saying that all the people who steal music are hurting us, because that is American made as well. I wonder what all the people who think music should be free would say to that?

So you're saying those highly polluting gas trimmers that Dave bought to support his friends the "Sand Thugs" and to pollute the environment should be banned!? Don't tell him that while he's out wacking his weeds and destroying our air. "

WHAT? What are you talking about?

Don't mind him, that is normal for him.

If the Manufacturers made 4 cycle Weed wackers I certainly would use them.
By the way all Jet Ski's have been converted to 4 cycle engines.
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: przero
"So you're saying all the people that pirate software that is written in the US are hurting us. And you're also saying that all the people who steal music are hurting us, because that is American made as well. I wonder what all the people who think music should be free would say to that?

So you're saying those highly polluting gas trimmers that Dave bought to support his friends the "Sand Thugs" and to pollute the environment should be banned!? Don't tell him that while he's out wacking his weeds and destroying our air. "

WHAT? What are you talking about?

Don't mind him, that is normal for him.

If the Manufacturers made 4 cycle Weed wackers I certainly would use them.
By the way all Jet Ski's have been converted to 4 cycle engines.

Yes it is normal; finding flaws in Dave's logic and proving that he is a hypocrite.

I have an electric weed wacker. You've got no excuse for this one.

4 cycle or not, they still pollute and use gas. Remember you said you'd buy non-gas powered products whenever possible? Too bad you don't support your own rhetoric.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: przero
"So you're saying all the people that pirate software that is written in the US are hurting us. And you're also saying that all the people who steal music are hurting us, because that is American made as well. I wonder what all the people who think music should be free would say to that?

So you're saying those highly polluting gas trimmers that Dave bought to support his friends the "Sand Thugs" and to pollute the environment should be banned!? Don't tell him that while he's out wacking his weeds and destroying our air. "

WHAT? What are you talking about?

Don't mind him, that is normal for him.

If the Manufacturers made 4 cycle Weed wackers I certainly would use them.
By the way all Jet Ski's have been converted to 4 cycle engines.

Yes it is normal; finding flaws in Dave's logic and proving that he is a hypocrite.

I have an electric weed wacker. You've got no excuse for this one.

4 cycle or not, they still pollute and use gas. Remember you said you'd buy non-gas powered products whenever possible? Too bad you don't support your own rhetoric.

This is one your most whacked posts of all time. You try Landscaping with an electric trimmer, it ain't gonna happen.

Even for my own yard (at my old house with a smaller yard) once upon a time I tried an electric trimmer and it was the wimpiest POS and couldn't get the job done. However for my new yard at 1.3 acres there is no way I'm going to spool out 400 feet or more of extension cord.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: przero
"So you're saying all the people that pirate software that is written in the US are hurting us. And you're also saying that all the people who steal music are hurting us, because that is American made as well. I wonder what all the people who think music should be free would say to that?

So you're saying those highly polluting gas trimmers that Dave bought to support his friends the "Sand Thugs" and to pollute the environment should be banned!? Don't tell him that while he's out wacking his weeds and destroying our air. "

WHAT? What are you talking about?

Don't mind him, that is normal for him.

If the Manufacturers made 4 cycle Weed wackers I certainly would use them.
By the way all Jet Ski's have been converted to 4 cycle engines.

Yes it is normal; finding flaws in Dave's logic and proving that he is a hypocrite.

I have an electric weed wacker. You've got no excuse for this one.

4 cycle or not, they still pollute and use gas. Remember you said you'd buy non-gas powered products whenever possible? Too bad you don't support your own rhetoric.

This is one your most whacked posts of all time. You try Landscaping with an electric trimmer, it ain't gonna happen.

Even for my own yard (at my old house with a smaller yard) once upon a time I tried an electric trimmer and it was the wimpiest POS and couldn't get the job done. However for my new yard at 1.3 acres there is no way I'm going to spool out 400 feet or more of extension cord.

I'm not sure the "Environmentalists" would buy into your "convenience" argument there dave

CkG
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: przero
"So you're saying all the people that pirate software that is written in the US are hurting us. And you're also saying that all the people who steal music are hurting us, because that is American made as well. I wonder what all the people who think music should be free would say to that?

So you're saying those highly polluting gas trimmers that Dave bought to support his friends the "Sand Thugs" and to pollute the environment should be banned!? Don't tell him that while he's out wacking his weeds and destroying our air. "

WHAT? What are you talking about?

Don't mind him, that is normal for him.

If the Manufacturers made 4 cycle Weed wackers I certainly would use them.
By the way all Jet Ski's have been converted to 4 cycle engines.

Yes it is normal; finding flaws in Dave's logic and proving that he is a hypocrite.

I have an electric weed wacker. You've got no excuse for this one.

4 cycle or not, they still pollute and use gas. Remember you said you'd buy non-gas powered products whenever possible? Too bad you don't support your own rhetoric.

This is one your most whacked posts of all time. You try Landscaping with an electric trimmer, it ain't gonna happen.

Even for my own yard (at my old house with a smaller yard) once upon a time I tried an electric trimmer and it was the wimpiest POS and couldn't get the job done. However for my new yard at 1.3 acres there is no way I'm going to spool out 400 feet or more of extension cord.

I'm not sure the "Environmentalists" would buy into your "convenience" argument there dave

CkG

I'm pretty sure they would. An electric trimmer is fine for small urban homes with a Zero lot (actually many of the homes out here in surbubia with tiny yards that I wouldn't even call a yard too) but not for yards of a half acre or more.
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674

This is one your most whacked posts of all time. You try Landscaping with an electric trimmer, it ain't gonna happen.

Even for my own yard (at my old house with a smaller yard) once upon a time I tried an electric trimmer and it was the wimpiest POS and couldn't get the job done. However for my new yard at 1.3 acres there is no way I'm going to spool out 400 feet or more of extension cord.

So everyone else should adhere to your bs, but when it's convenient to you, you are allowed to support the Saudi's. I see how it is. I on the otherhand have a cordless electric trimmer and lawn mower. More than you can say.

If you truely hated the Saudi's as much as you claim and you loved the environment as much as you claim, you'd find a way to do the job without gasoline.

Until then, you are a hypocrite and anything you post about the enviroment or about oil will be discarded... after all, if you can't adhere to your own standards that you think others should, why should anyone listen to you? I wouldn't be surprised to find you driving a suv and saying you don't.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Don't mind him, that is normal for him.

If the Manufacturers made 4 cycle Weed wackers I certainly would use them.
They do make 4 cycle trimmers. I have a Ryobi. It does a great job; much quieter and cleaner than the two-strokes I've seen.


Edit: for those jumping Dave about hypocrisy, probably from your Sport Utility Barge, stuff it. It's ludicrous to suggest string trimmers have any material impact on U.S. oil consumption. You're just being obnoxious, and everyone knows it.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Don't mind him, that is normal for him.

If the Manufacturers made 4 cycle Weed wackers I certainly would use them.
They do make 4 cycle trimmers. I have a Ryobi. It does a great job; much quieter and cleaner than the two-strokes I've seen.

Cool, hopefully Troybilt will have a 4 cycle when I need a new one again.

 

MadRat

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I use my waste oil in the trimmer anyhow, so does that make me a hypocrite, too?
 

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What percentage of US jobs are outsourced?

Do other countries outsource to the US and how does that compare to the jobs that have left?
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Don't mind him, that is normal for him.

If the Manufacturers made 4 cycle Weed wackers I certainly would use them.
They do make 4 cycle trimmers. I have a Ryobi. It does a great job; much quieter and cleaner than the two-strokes I've seen.


Edit: for those jumping Dave about hypocrisy, probably from your Sport Utility Barge, stuff it. It's ludicrous to suggest string trimmers have any material impact on U.S. oil consumption. You're just being obnoxious, and everyone knows it.

Now trimmers don't use gas or pollute.
What will the libbies think of next? Oh right, they are only bad when a republican use them or profit from selling them. Excuse my misunderstanding.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Don't mind him, that is normal for him.

If the Manufacturers made 4 cycle Weed wackers I certainly would use them.
They do make 4 cycle trimmers. I have a Ryobi. It does a great job; much quieter and cleaner than the two-strokes I've seen.


Edit: for those jumping Dave about hypocrisy, probably from your Sport Utility Barge, stuff it. It's ludicrous to suggest string trimmers have any material impact on U.S. oil consumption. You're just being obnoxious, and everyone knows it.

Now trimmers don't use gas or pollute.
What will the libbies think of next? Oh right, they are only bad when a republican use them or profit from selling them. Excuse my misunderstanding.

Thanks Bow.

db, your characterization of a Weed Trimmer using more Oil than SUV's and discriminating "Libbies" Vs Republicans benefits the discussion of Outsourcing how???
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
They do make 4 cycle trimmers. I have a Ryobi. It does a great job; much quieter and cleaner than the two-strokes I've seen.

Edit: for those jumping Dave about hypocrisy, probably from your Sport Utility Barge, stuff it. It's ludicrous to suggest string trimmers have any material impact on U.S. oil consumption. You're just being obnoxious, and everyone knows it.
Now trimmers don't use gas or pollute.
What will the libbies think of next? Oh right, they are only bad when a republican use them or profit from selling them. Excuse my misunderstanding.
That bears no resemblance to anything I actually said, of course. I guess making up garbage is the bleating Bushie substitute for intelligent discussion. Attack with whatever you have; invent whatever you don't.

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
db, your characterization of a Weed Trimmer using more Oil than SUV's and discriminating "Libbies" Vs Republicans benefits the discussion of Outsourcing how???

You said you bought three of them. All American made? I bet not.

You buy gas and oil to run your trimmer. All American made or imported?

That's what I thought.


Funny how you take other topics way off topic, but when someone proves you are hypocritical, you are quick to brush it aside and try to get back on topic.
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
They do make 4 cycle trimmers. I have a Ryobi. It does a great job; much quieter and cleaner than the two-strokes I've seen.

Edit: for those jumping Dave about hypocrisy, probably from your Sport Utility Barge, stuff it. It's ludicrous to suggest string trimmers have any material impact on U.S. oil consumption. You're just being obnoxious, and everyone knows it.
Now trimmers don't use gas or pollute.
What will the libbies think of next? Oh right, they are only bad when a republican use them or profit from selling them. Excuse my misunderstanding.
That bears no resemblance to anything I actually said, of course. I guess making up garbage is the bleating Bushie substitute for intelligent discussion. Attack with whatever you have; invent whatever you don't.

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."

Don't blame me for Dave being a hypocrite. He says other people should be inconvenienced and buy hybrids. Yet when an electric trimmer won't do the job in his yard and will inconvenience him, his is free to buy a gas one. I don't know what's worse: Dave being a blatent hypocrite or him asking you to come and defend him in this thread!
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
They do make 4 cycle trimmers. I have a Ryobi. It does a great job; much quieter and cleaner than the two-strokes I've seen.

Edit: for those jumping Dave about hypocrisy, probably from your Sport Utility Barge, stuff it. It's ludicrous to suggest string trimmers have any material impact on U.S. oil consumption. You're just being obnoxious, and everyone knows it.
Now trimmers don't use gas or pollute.
What will the libbies think of next? Oh right, they are only bad when a republican use them or profit from selling them. Excuse my misunderstanding.
That bears no resemblance to anything I actually said, of course. I guess making up garbage is the bleating Bushie substitute for intelligent discussion. Attack with whatever you have; invent whatever you don't.

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."

Don't blame me for Dave being a hypocrite. He says other people should be inconvenienced and buy hybrids. Yet when an electric trimmer won't do the job in his yard and will inconvenience him, his is free to buy a gas one. I don't know what's worse: Dave being a blatent hypocrite or him asking you to come and defend him in this thread!

I have never "asked" anyone to defend me, in fact just the opposite. I courtiously "Thank" them for their unsolicted words and help from the "blatent", unnecessary and unwarranted hammering I get from you. But please go on, this is America, this is part of the "Politics" of P&N and I wouldn't have it any other way.

At least some semblance of Free America and what it stands for can be seen in action right here

What's pretty cool is thanks to folks like you and CAD & Co I have more labels and names thrown at me on here than the two Presidential Candidates combined
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
They do make 4 cycle trimmers. I have a Ryobi. It does a great job; much quieter and cleaner than the two-strokes I've seen.

Edit: for those jumping Dave about hypocrisy, probably from your Sport Utility Barge, stuff it. It's ludicrous to suggest string trimmers have any material impact on U.S. oil consumption. You're just being obnoxious, and everyone knows it.
Now trimmers don't use gas or pollute.
What will the libbies think of next? Oh right, they are only bad when a republican use them or profit from selling them. Excuse my misunderstanding.
That bears no resemblance to anything I actually said, of course. I guess making up garbage is the bleating Bushie substitute for intelligent discussion. Attack with whatever you have; invent whatever you don't.

"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."

Don't blame me for Dave being a hypocrite. He says other people should be inconvenienced and buy hybrids. Yet when an electric trimmer won't do the job in his yard and will inconvenience him, his is free to buy a gas one. I don't know what's worse: Dave being a blatent hypocrite or him asking you to come and defend him in this thread!

More proof you have no clue and DO NOT read my posts but just spout off garbage and rhetoric.

I had to buy three units because they were garbage and broke down after hardly any service.

I'm pretty sure the Homelite POS are built in Tenneesee but I do not know for sure. Impossible to get the things started.

I finally got a Troybilt which is performing like a unit should. I do not know where they make their Product.
I bought it for a unique automatic Choke system that is supposed to eliminate the starting problem and it does.
It also seems a lot better built as I was changing out the cable that connects the motor to the cutting hub like crazy. I have not had to change the cable on the Troybilt yet.

Finally if you know of an Electric trimmer that has a quad cutting hub that can handle heavy duty Landscaping and not have to drag an extension cord over an acre let me know. Some inconvenience
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Finally if you know of an Electric trimmer that has a quad cutting hub that can handle heavy duty Landscaping and not have to drag an extension cord over an acre let me know. Some inconvenience

Doesn't matter. If you truely believed in what you say, then you would have found a better way. There are many people who are serious about what they say, unlike you, and either find, create or come up with a different way of doing the same job. I don't see any excuses stopping them, but you seem to have a never ending supply of them.

BTW, why don't you let all the suv drivers know that there are hybrids that can hold all their stuff and tow a trailer. Oh wait, there aren't any. Maybe you will now run to their defense since they have no other choice, like you have weakly defended your own actions.

This will be my last post in this thread. It's all yours now Dave. [hands off batton]
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Finally if you know of an Electric trimmer that has a quad cutting hub that can handle heavy duty Landscaping and not have to drag an extension cord over an acre let me know. Some inconvenience

Doesn't matter. If you truely believed in what you say, then you would have found a better way. There are many people who are serious about what they say, unlike you, and either find, create or come up with a different way of doing the same job. I don't see any excuses stopping them, but you seem to have a never ending supply of them.

BTW, why don't you let all the suv drivers know that there are hybrids that can hold all their stuff and tow a trailer. Oh wait, there aren't any. Maybe you will now run to their defense since they have no other choice, like you have weakly defended your own actions.

This will be my last post in this thread. It's all yours now Dave. [hands off batton]

Show me a bunch of SUV's loaded to the gills. Show me the road full of SUV's pulling trailers. There are some but certainly not the majority. There is a good reason they are called Urban Assault Vehicles. Most of the time it is empty except with the one or two riders in the front seats.

Thanks for pointing that very problem out. Why isn't there Hybrid SUV's out NOW? Because the SUV making Corporate Thugs are in bed with the Sand Thugs and want the U.S. to consume more Oil and Gas. It was a coordinated sucker punch at the American sheep. Those that can't afford to shell out $50-100 for a tank deserve what they get.
 
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