Over Clocking my AMD Athlon 3700+ stock @ 2.2ghz

[goofivee]

Well over the last couple of days I have been messing around with my processor OCing it and seeing at what temps it would run at. I got it to 2.75 from stock 2.2 with stock voltage and the idle temp was 35c and load temp was 42c. just to be safe until i was going to replace the amd compound with artic silver 5 i only oc'd it to 2.61 where it ran at 34c idle and 41c load. after i changed it to artic silver at 2.61 my idle is 39c and load 47c. i even tried defaulting back to the normal at 2.2 and the temp was still higher. what could be wrong?

 

[nguyen1025]

u applied the thermal paste wrong is a likely possibility

 

[aatf510]

You go all the way up to 2.75 with stock voltage?? WOW!

 

[goofivee]

Originally posted by: toattett
You go all the way up to 2.75 with stock voltage?? WOW!

yea whats wrong with that? everything runs fine, just a little hotter than i want it to w/ the new atric silver 5, but with my old amd thermal stuff it ran are 41 load.

 

[Matt2]

AS5 has a burn-in period of like 200 hours I think. You'll notice the temps get lwoer and lower has the AS5 heats up and cools down.

I believe 2.75 on stock voltage for sure. My Venice does 2.4GHZ @ stock voltage. 2.5 requires about 1.43v, 2.6 requires 1.47v and 2.7 requires 1.54v game stable, 1.58v Prime stable.

 

[Furen]

If you applied too much AS your temperatures will be higher. Just apply a rice-grain's worth of AS in the dead center of the CPU's heatspreader and just put the heatsink on, no need to spread it yourself though I dont think it makes a difference either way. AMD's thermal pad is actually pretty damn good so dont expect anything dramatic from changing it. Lovely overclock, by the way ^^

 

[Lithan]

Did you clean both the cpu and heatsink properly?

 

[goofivee]

the instructions i read that said now to put the as5 on said to clean both surfaces with something that will not scratch either of them, which is what i did. then i put a decent amount on the heatsinka nd stead it around and rubbed in so it gets in the microscopic holes in it. then you wipe off what you can see.(it said to do that) then i put a rice size drop on the proccessors heatspreader and put it on.

 

[goofivee]

Just to be careful while my cpu gets use to running after I applied my as5(around 200 hrs of running) i put a fan blowing in its direction and it is running at 29c now idle

 

[otispunkmeyer]

i thought the 3700 was 2.4ghz clawhammer?

my 3200 is 2.2ghz newcastle, the 3400 is either 2.2 claw or 2.4 newcaslte, so the 3700 must be 2.4 and a claw

 

[kman79]

He's probably using the 3700 San Diego

I would redo the application. Clean everything off and redo it. Or you could wait the 200 hours. I just noticed an instant drop in Temps when I did it

 

[ssvegeta1010]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
i thought the 3700 was 2.4ghz clawhammer?

my 3200 is 2.2ghz newcastle, the 3400 is either 2.2 claw or 2.4 newcaslte, so the 3700 must be 2.4 and a claw

There are also 3700+ San Diegos.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

I also have the SD 3700+, and I would question if your mobo is reading temps right? 41-42c under load seems unreasonably low for this chip, unless you have extremly low ambient temps in your room. From day 1 even at stock 2.2ghz mine hits 44-46c under load(prime95), currently I have it overclocked to 2805mhz 1.55v and it hits 52-53c under load with excellent air cooling.

 

[goofivee]

I also have guages on my case and they are very similar, so its reading the temps correctly i beleive. Also on newegg there are so many reviews on the processor about ppl OCing them and it running cool with the stock HSF

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: goofivee
Well over the last couple of days I have been messing around with my processor OCing it and seeing at what temps it would run at. I got it to 2.75 from stock 2.2 with stock voltage and the idle temp was 35c and load temp was 42c. just to be safe until i was going to replace the amd compound with artic silver 5 i only oc'd it to 2.61 where it ran at 34c idle and 41c load. after i changed it to artic silver at 2.61 my idle is 39c and load 47c. i even tried defaulting back to the normal at 2.2 and the temp was still higher. what could be wrong?

So you fell for the AS5 is the savior of the thermal paste world???
AS5 will not improve your temps that much....maybe a few degrees at the most!
Maybe a new CPU cooler is called for.
Thermal paste is just that...thermal paste.
To be applied under a CPU cooler.

anyways good luck with your heat problem!

 

[goofivee]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda

Originally posted by: goofivee
Well over the last couple of days I have been messing around with my processor OCing it and seeing at what temps it would run at. I got it to 2.75 from stock 2.2 with stock voltage and the idle temp was 35c and load temp was 42c. just to be safe until i was going to replace the amd compound with artic silver 5 i only oc'd it to 2.61 where it ran at 34c idle and 41c load. after i changed it to artic silver at 2.61 my idle is 39c and load 47c. i even tried defaulting back to the normal at 2.2 and the temp was still higher. what could be wrong?

So you fell for the AS5 is the savior of the thermal paste world???
AS5 will not improve your temps that much....maybe a few degrees at the most!
Maybe a new CPU cooler is called for.
Thermal paste is just that...thermal paste.
To be applied under a CPU cooler.

anyways good luck with your heat problem!

i just want to keep my comp running as cool as possible, if using AS5 only only makes my temp drop 3c then im happy. <3

 

[carpenter]

I've been using the AS5 since it came out and have a ritual now for putting it on. I clean the hs and chip with goop off. Rubbing alcohol would work fine. Tissue or q tip. Then put a thin line of it across one end of the chip. I took some business cards and cut them into 1/2"x 1" squares and use them as a spreader. I just spread it from one end to the other in a very thin film and then carefully attach the heatsink. I've never gotten more than a 3C temp drop, but with cooling, it's total package effect. It does take some time to "cure".
That's a pretty nice OC btw.

 

[goofivee]

Alright, thanks for the help and advice.

 

[the cobbler]

Originally posted by: goofivee
Well over the last couple of days I have been messing around with my processor OCing it and seeing at what temps it would run at. I got it to 2.75 from stock 2.2 with stock voltage and the idle temp was 35c and load temp was 42c. just to be safe until i was going to replace the amd compound with artic silver 5 i only oc'd it to 2.61 where it ran at 34c idle and 41c load. after i changed it to artic silver at 2.61 my idle is 39c and load 47c. i even tried defaulting back to the normal at 2.2 and the temp was still higher. what could be wrong?

first off, the 'compound' or TIM contains wax
when you apply the TIM and let the processor get hot, the wax melts
it fills in all the microscopic cracks and crevices
there is only one way to get it out
you have to lap the heatsink
you have not done this
so you are going to have to get busy

get some 600 and 400-grit wet/dry sandpaper
take the fan off your HSF
put the 400grit on a mirror or similarly smooth surface
put some water on it
with even pressure, start moving the bottom of the heatsink around in circular, smooth motions
go both clockwise and counterclockwise
use plenty of fresh water
go till you seem to stop making progress
repeat with the 600grit
you'll know you're there when all the grooves on the bottom of the heatsink are no longer visible to the naked eye
it will appear shiny and polished
takes about an hour
when you're done, rinse it thoroughly and clean with acetone

THEN put on AS5 strictly according to instructions. it is really hard to keep from using too much, so be careful of that.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: the cobbler

Originally posted by: goofivee
Well over the last couple of days I have been messing around with my processor OCing it and seeing at what temps it would run at. I got it to 2.75 from stock 2.2 with stock voltage and the idle temp was 35c and load temp was 42c. just to be safe until i was going to replace the amd compound with artic silver 5 i only oc'd it to 2.61 where it ran at 34c idle and 41c load. after i changed it to artic silver at 2.61 my idle is 39c and load 47c. i even tried defaulting back to the normal at 2.2 and the temp was still higher. what could be wrong?

first off, the 'compound' or TIM contains wax
when you apply the TIM and let the processor get hot, the wax melts
it fills in all the microscopic cracks and crevices
there is only one way to get it out
you have to lap the heatsink
you have not done this
so you are going to have to get busy

get some 600 and 400-grit wet/dry sandpaper
take the fan off your HSF
put the 400grit on a mirror or similarly smooth surface
put some water on it
with even pressure, start moving the bottom of the heatsink around in circular, smooth motions
go both clockwise and counterclockwise
use plenty of fresh water
go till you seem to stop making progress
repeat with the 600grit
you'll know you're there when all the grooves on the bottom of the heatsink are no longer visible to the naked eye
it will appear shiny and polished
takes about an hour
when you're done, rinse it thoroughly and clean with acetone

THEN put on AS5 strictly according to instructions. it is really hard to keep from using too much, so be careful of that.

You would be lucky if this process lowers your temp by 1c.

Its just not neccesary.

 

[wanderer27]

I had to redo my CPU/Heatsink this weekend. I couldn't find any Alcohol in the House, so I ended up using Jewelry Cleaner (not sure what's in it).

I also couldn't find my AS, and I wasn't about to make the long trip to town to get some. So, I ended up using some generic Thermal Compound (white grease/paste) I had leftover.

My idle temps look to have dropped 1C, and my load (Prime95) temps are down between 1-2C . . . . and I thought I was getting good temps from the default Heatsink Pad

I'm really curious to know what's going on with your set-up. Something just doesn't sound right.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: Matt2
AS5 has a burn-in period of like 200 hours I think. You'll notice the temps get lwoer and lower has the AS5 heats up and cools down.

I believe 2.75 on stock voltage for sure. My Venice does 2.4GHZ @ stock voltage. 2.5 requires about 1.43v, 2.6 requires 1.47v and 2.7 requires 1.54v game stable, 1.58v Prime stable.

There is quite a bit of difference between 2.75@ stock volts and your 2.7 @ 1.54v