overclockers look at this:

[Halogen]

why do you overclock? im just wondering
don't you people get a warranty with your computer? why would you want to void a warranty?

 

[dave8311]

No one here buys a "store bought" computer.

Everyone builds there own.

If you can't afford to pay, don't play.

 

[Wind]

More performance w/ the same cost w/o sacrifying stability/risk. When we O/C, we know tht our PC will still last for 3 years or more. By the time the 3 years or so is up...time for upgrade. For me, warranty...perhaps it\s not my priority.

 

[CoachClevenger]

The first cpu that i overclocked was a p5 90 running at 120...got an additional year out of that system because of it. Next was an unlocked 200mmx on an Abit ah-5...got it up to 250. Then came the bh-6/celeron300a, I still run that system @512 after about 3 years. I also keep a celeron600 @900. The reason I overclock is because I can!!! i get a year or better more and at the time of the 300a, I had the fastest system around. so now i wait for my ram to arrive so i can see how far i can push my athlon 1700

 

[CStroman]

Overclocking is my hobby. I don't need to do it, I just do. I don't really care much about warranties; most of the stuff I buy is OEM.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

All the reasons given by the others are my main reasons for overclocking as well. Also, most of us have the savvy necessary to have any applicable warranty coverage honored in spite of the fact that we may have use the hardware in a way that voids the coverage

 

[NelsonMuntz]

Warranty? I don't need no stinking warranty! I build my own machines and I don't buy retail boxed processors and alot of other items are OEM as well. The thing I usually buy retail is the video card, but that's mostly because you can't really find those OEM. That'll be the day when I buy some off the shelf PC with a warranty - unless it's a laptop and I won't overclock that.

 

[phatboi]

i build my own comps. so i don't get a warranty. and most of the parts i buy are OEM. i'm new to overclocking but i'm going to overclock my XP 1600+ cuz it cost $100-150 more for the 1800 or the 1900 XP's. why buy one of those when you can get the same performance overclocking the cheaper, but yet the same, processor?! i'd also like to do it to test what i can do and test what my computer can do. i like to screw around with things too, especially my car so why not my computer?

 

[Halogen]

well i know you dont buy premade but the place i buy my computers from builds them for you and includes a free 3 year warranty with no charge at all

all parts of my system are OEM too so that is really not an excuse or anything

well anyway, i hope you guys dont fry your systems. good luck

 

[KokomoGST]

<< Warranty? I don't need no stinking warranty! >>



Haha!! Yeah... even so, it's not like it's hard to get stuff replaced even if you fry it. How will they know you were overclocking on the FSB of your chip?
Or your vidcard or etcetc... unless you tell them or you made irreversible mods.

 

[darth maul]

<< well anyway, i hope you guys dont fry your systems. good luck >>



See my child, there is no luck in frying your system becuase of overclocking. Either you know what you are doing or you don't. When you wish him luck, wish him that he gets the best processor out of the bin, and he gets a 33% or more overclock. Wishing him luck on not frying his system is like wishing a fish good luck on swiming!

Just my 2 dog hairs on the subject.

 

[AcidzT]

i overclock because:
Beeing a highschool student i need all the power i can suck outta my money
Its fun, kind of a thrill.
Becasue i can!
Really jsut to get as much proformance out of my stuff, its really amazing what you can do.


And to the "fry your computer" comment, thats really somthing that dosent happen if your not doing stupid things. Like i OC my Geforce 2, if i go to far it dosent die, my computer simply locks up and i restart and it reverts my geforce2 back to normal clock/mem settings. I really dont worry about "killing" anything, push my ram to far, reste bios and its back to normal, now if your talking about water leaks and such all ica n say is "crap happens" but i dont H2o cool. and tehy ar right, theye is NO way for them to tell you OC'd your gf2 or ram to death without actually telling them when you return it, jsut keep your yapper shut when you return stuff,a nd act dumb. "i jsut went to turn my comoputer on today and my video card didnt work..."

Oh and for the record, hard core users dont go to best buy and buy a computer......

 

[Demonicon]

<< theye is NO way for them to tell you OC'd your gf2 or ram to death without actually telling them when you return it, jsut keep your yapper shut when you return stuff,a nd act dumb. "i jsut went to turn my comoputer on today and my video card didnt work..." Oh and for the record, hard core users dont go to best buy and buy a computer...... >>



Attitudes like this are gonna ruin OC'ing for the honest users because manufacturers can't keep eating the costs of an idiots who fry their CPU, mem...etc. So manufacturers will start making it harder to OC. Real OC'ers know the risks and buy new if they cause a failure, they don't lie and try to get a manufacturer to replace a part the OC'er knows he fried.

If your not willing to buy another part to replace the one you fried, I suggest sticking with Windows tweaks. :|

 

[Zugzwang152]

I second that demonicon...but that said...i agree with everyone else too, for all means, lets risk our hardware by trying to push its performance, but lets be honest about it when we fail.

 

[AcidzT]

I can see your point but i dont agree. Personally i have eaten the cost of 2 cpu's but thats all ive ever killed (not really OC related) but i cant give the manufactures that are making millions my sympothy, im sorry i dont mean to be cold hearted or anything but i jsut cant do it.

 

[mstudd]

<< Attitudes like this are gonna ruin OC'ing for the honest users because manufacturers can't keep eating the costs of an idiots who fry their CPU, mem...etc. So manufacturers will start making it harder to OC. Real OC'ers know the risks and buy new if they cause a failure, they don't lie and try to get a manufacturer to replace a part the OC'er knows he fried. >>



I agree with you Demonicon, I know the manufacturers make zillions out of components, but if they see loss of profits through RMA's then they will surely make it harder to claim, penalizing the people with genuine warranty claims.

But if you fry components and get them replaced, good luck to you, just hope it doesn't backfire one day.

Any way, this is corny, but I have to say it........ I just don't think Halogen just hasn't seen the light when it comes to overclocking!

 

[AcidzT]

I do agree, but by the time i break somthing its already way out of warenty becasue of the time table anyway, Its jsut better incentive to go and get a better one.........

 

[CROSSeyed]

Coming from a motorcycle roadracing backgound, the similarities to OC'ing are quite striking. When you go roadracing you take a brand new (or nearly new if you want to have a chance) machine and spend weeks /months tweaking and modding to get the most out of it. Then you wring the snot out of it. If you crash... there are no insurance claims... if you torch the engine or other components.. there are no warranties.. It's just you and your credit cards to the rescue... If I let the smoke out of my MP1600 running it at MP2000+ all I get is another story to "benchrace" with...

 

[MilkPowderR]

<< Warranty? I don't need no stinking warranty! q]

LOL, I love your reply. And you darth maul, what you said is very correct in my opinion. Very well said!!!!

 

[Silverforce]

When i had a celeron 300a i felt a need to overclock it.. same when i got a celeron 550..

but these days, with 1400mhz cpus, overclocking it to 1500 or 1550mhz just doesnt make a real different for me. 5 fps extra on top of 150fps isnt gonna rock my world.

at some point, it becomes a waste of time and the gains arent outweighing the trouble. but after saying this, the first thing i do when i get a new vid card is take off the default hsf, and put in custom made ones along with better ramsinks. not that i overclock them or anything.. it's justa habit of days long gone.

 

[Freejack2]

Overclocking can keep a computer going for a lot longer before it becomes too outdated.
I was overclocking 486's and pentiums. The P2 I had wasn't a great overclocker the 300 would only do 333.
But then I got the Celeron 300A, Had that up to 504mhz on a BH6. Nice little chip.
Then I went to a p3 fcpga 550 that I ran at 733, then a 700 at 933. Just got an Athlon XP last month and unlocked it. Testing it at 2000+ (1666mhz) speed today. By overclocking I'm saving a couple hundred dollars over the cost of...well...a cpu that isn't out yet.
Yeah there is risk and there is a lot of work involved to do this but it's a fun hobby!

 

[MoFunk]

Because when my friend bought his 1.4 I put my 1.4 up to 1.53 and said "neener neener neener, I'm running faster than you!" Then he clocked his to 1.53. Then I bought an Alpha and said "neener neener neener, I have an 80mm fan on my HS and you only have a 60!"

Just kidding. It's force of habit these days. Do I really need a Thunderbird 1.4 to go faster? No, but I can get it to, so I will. It's the same reason that some guys have a car that can go 150mph. Do they go that fast ever, probably not, but they no they can if they ever wanted or needed to!

 

[kmmatney]

Overclocking makes a big difference in Team Anandtech projects, If I wasn't on the Team, then I probably wouldn't overclock so much.

 

[Kadarin]

The guy with the motorcycle has the same attitude I do. I used to drag race my '83 Mustang GT, and it was the exact same philosophy. You race the car at the track, bolt on an exhaust kit, remove the catalytic converter, bolt on headers, change intake, install new cam, port heads, change axle ratio, etc.. and the car will accelerate much faster. Same thing with a PC.

-j

 

[RustyNale]

It's like messing with your car ( for those of us who can remember what a real engine used to look like under the hood--you could actually see it and touch all the parts, not like today where its all hidden and half the time it's done by feel cause you can't possibly see it), yah, it voids the warranty, but the shear possibility of squeaking more out of what you've got is the attraction. Oc'ing is the reason why cpus, video cards, ram, and mobo are as advanced as they are these days. If not for people like us pushing the envelope on our stuff, demanding more out of it, helping to refine it, hone it, we'd all still be using P50's and not knowing any better. Besides, it makes you a part of an elite crowd ( until you screw up and fry yer system and then you get to join another type of elite crowd ). That and its just darned good fun!