Overclocking and You.. Why?

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I have a long going debate with a few IT friends of mine as well as associates and customers about the benefits and downfalls of overclocking your hardware of your PC..

We all know it voids your warranty on almost all your parts..

We all know it boosts performance of your PC..

I just do not understand why people overclock and have a firm belief with as fast as todays stock parts are currently, that there is no need for a overclock at all..

So your counterstrike loads faster?
So your WOW loads faster?

and the higher frame rate thing is moot point with me.. I go mid to high end videocard for new technology and for beauty in games and 3d apps.. Frame rate is pointless above the point we cant even see it with the naked eye..



The questions I pose is this..

Why do you as an individual overclock your parts?

Do you care about your warranty?


 
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Originally posted by: angry hampster
Why do people buy Porsches if they never go faster than 100mph anyway?

you are compairing apples to oranges..

if you do 150mph in your porsche before the warranty expires it doesnt void your warranty of your car.. so moot point..

compiaring a Porsche to a PC is like compairing a Sunbeam toaster to a Harley davidson..

 

PCTC2

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Because it's an addiction without a hangover and our next fix is buying a better cooler so we can get an extra 100Mhz out of the parts we bought.
 

krnmastersgt

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Like PCTC2 says, it's just fun, also the performance is a very nice addition, sure 2.4ghz on a Q6600 is more than enough, but if I can get 50% for no cost(save a bit more electricity) why the hell not?
 

Narse

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Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
PC..

We all know it voids your warranty on almost all your parts..

Umm how? I have eVGA vid cards and it does not void your warranty to overclock. And my CPU was OEM had a 30 day warranty and I somehow doubt that Intel would refuse a less than 30 day old RMA for a CPU. My motherboard is also a eVGA and they are ok with overclocking. So how exactly does it void my warranty to overclock?
 

Extelleron

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Why wouldn't I overclock?

As long as you don't go crazy w/ voltage, it's near impossible to kill something from overclocking.

It's 100% free performance and it would be dumb not take advantage of it.
 

ZeSpacecrab

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i cannot speak for everyone, as there are truly too many reasons people choose one solution over another in the computing world as you probably well know. However, on the subject of overclocking, i believe i understand at least 2 of the biggest draws for that particular process, and further believe they encompass a huge percentage of the overclocking "communities" reasoning behind doing it.

1: There has always been a market for people who desire quality and performance without paying a price premium. The less expensive anything is the better, we all know that..if the "better things in life " were all affordable that would be awesome. That, however is not the case usually. So consumers want to get as close to that "premium consumer good " as possible while maintaining their budget. The basic principal behind overclocking comes down to a mindset of " i cant afford a $500 chip, so i will make this $100 chip work as best i can. " Over time, overclocking has grown out of an option from necessity to practically a given, and stability has grown with that development over the years. It has reached a point where the tight budgeted users are not the only ones looking to squeeze extra performance out of lower priced parts, the financially sound have seen the capabilities, and have wondered why they should spend $500 on a chip that their roomates $100 overclocked chip is outperforming. Gone are the days of putting racks of 486 DX2 66's into a Maytag fridge with nitrogen pumps to see if they will oc before they melt through the boards, a little time, research and minimal additional parts yield amazing results these days quite safely.

2: Enter the enthusiast. When explaining computer hardware/software concepts to people who are not exactly technically savvy, i often use automobiles as analogies. It does the trick so well it's frightening. Owning a computer is very much like owning a car. The people who need a little 4cyl to get back and forth to work are like people with emachines. I wouldn't try and sell my granny on the idea of needing to think of DDR3 and the new Nehalem chips when all she does is check her email and look at her church website. Granny, buy that emachine, and get that warranty that will allow for a swap out so you dont ever call customer support, you know? Just like car owners over the years, there are back and forth to work cars, family workhorse cars/vans/SUV's, specialty vehicles like semi's and dump trucks, and good old American muscle cars and import tuner cars, there are computer builds that run similar usages. Dredging up memories of guys and girls back in the 50's and 60's spending Saturday mornings in their garage polishing valve covers and adjusting throttle bodies and timings on their favorite Ford or Chrysler to hit the road Saturday night, they wouldnt trust ANY mom and dad's mechanic near their baby! They knew that car inside and out, could break it down to a frame and put it back together in a day, and tune it to purr. Why though? Doesnt it work just fine without doing all that? If that's your line of thinking you missed the whole point to begin with.
 

Billb2

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I race a sail boat on lake Michigan. I find successfully controlling all the variables if wind, waves, sail settings, crew management, course and strategy rewarding.
I crew chief for a 2 car SCCA road race team that races nationally. I find successfully controlling all the variables of engine, suspension, tires, weather, strategy, and the drivers rewarding...well, maybe not the drivers!
I overclock computers (3, for benchmarking). I find successfully choosing parts, controlling the all the BIOS variables and the temperatures rewarding.

If you damage or sink a sailboat in a race...you're SOL
If you crash a car in a race...you're SOL
If you damage a computer part by over clocking...You're probably covered and will RMA!!!!
"Don't do the crime if you can't do the time."
Benchmarking, for me at least, is a hobby, and if I have to worry about the money for a hobby, I'm not having fun. When I set up a port tack crossing, dial in a whole bunch of front sway bar, or press F10 to save, I just keep that in mind.
 

Idontcare

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Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
The questions I pose is this..

Why do you as an individual overclock your parts?

Do you care about your warranty?

(1) I do it for fun, as a hobby.

(2) No, no I don't. Hobby's aren't about saving money, they are about spending money for fun and entertainment.

So I burn out a CPU or a motherboard and lose the initial investment. Oh well, upgrade time!
 

ZeSpacecrab

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Warranty issues and voiding/etc all fall into the realm of "granny with the emachine" You wouldnt want to buy a clunker 65 Mustang to restore if you arent mechanically inclined at all, and especially if you just needed a car that was reliable! You'd buy a new one with a warranty and not try and install some supercharger that could have the dealership saying " sorry, that voids your warranty, and you burned your engine up sir". Same with any computer part, or whole build for that matter. If the thought of physically altering your system in some way and voiding a warranty makes you immediately nervous, then you know why people should NOT overclock, and that should be fine enough knowledge for your peace of mind.
 

HawkeyeRecon2

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I plan on overclocking because I want to spend $X on a chip and get the performance of $2X or $3X. If I can get my $80 chip to perform within 5% of a $240 chip I've saved money and learned something usefull.

Its all about saving money and the personal satisfaction of accomplishment.
 

zorrt

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overclocking cpu from 2.66 to 3.4 gives me 3 extra frames for crysis with very high details. But it still runs under 20fps :] Too bad I can't keep my overclock until I find out why it keeps crashing.
 

Mondoman

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If I can OC an $80 CPU to the performance of a $190 CPU, with little real prospect of rendering it inoperable within the 2 years I'll be using it, why not? In the worst case if it fails, I'll just buy another and still end up having saved over $30.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Not everyone overclocks to improve gaming performance which you seem to paint a picture where you can't fathom what else you'd use a computer for. Some of us actually use our computers to do intensive work whether that be media manipulation or distributed computing...all the extra Hz we can get can help a tremendous amount; if an opperation takes several hours, even a minor 20% overclock can save you a LOT of time.

Oh and some games are near unplayable on a processor the likes of a ~$60 1.6GHz stock E2140, but with a safe bump of the voltage and an increase of the FSB, that very 1.6GHz processor can be relatively easily doing 3.2GHz and blazing through any game you can throw at it...fast enough that most new games (such as Crysis) the GPU is going to obvious bottleneck.

Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
Originally posted by: angry hampster
Why do people buy Porsches if they never go faster than 100mph anyway?

you are compairing apples to oranges..

if you do 150mph in your porsche before the warranty expires it doesnt void your warranty of your car.. so moot point..

compiaring a Porsche to a PC is like compairing a Sunbeam toaster to a Harley davidson..
If you crash and total the car while going 150mph, your warranty or even your insurance isn't going to pay for it, just like a voided warranty on an overclocked processor.
 

brencat

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Originally posted by: IT Professional Ant
Why do you as an individual overclock your parts?

Do you care about your warranty?
I OC because it's fun as hell to tweak. This is a hobby that isn't too expensive either, relative to some other things I might be doing with my free time. And no, I couldn't give a rats ass about my warranty because I'm methodical and usually prepare very well beforehand by reading all I can about the successes/failures others have had OCing the products I'm about to tinker with, and am very thorough and patient as well during OC testing. Short of stupid levels of voltage and heat, or impatience, it's really hard to blow things up. Yes, I may shorten the life of this CPU in my sig considerably. But if it lasts 3 - 4 years instead of 10, who cares? It'll be gone well before then and I'll be on to my next victim...hehe, I mean my next system.

Finally, as others have said, there's nothing more satisfying than knowing you paid substantially less and OCed to get the same or better performance than others that paid full price for more product @ stock performance.
 

secretanchitman

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i overclock because i want to get more out of my money for it. i bought a low clocked cpu to overclocked a higher clocked cpu..thats the thrill of it. pushing everything to the limit, even if its a low end chip. that makes it SO worth it.

you save money, to use parts that overclock to a higher, more expensive part. now who DOESNT like that idea? sure it degrades the life of the cpu, but by then, you'll have moved on to another computer. honestly, no one here is using a pentium 60Mhz computer here, cause they have moved on!

and ive also wondered....if you bought a cpu, didnt use the retail cooler but instead used water cooling, does that void the warranty of the cpu? if so how....
 

Borealis7

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The one and only answer should be:

Because We Can

*looks at his stock setting rig...*
 

tallman45

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Time is money

The faster you get work done, the faster you can go on to do more and different work
 
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I overclock because of the CPU-rapage that is x264.exe

Warranty? You would have to try really freaking hard to permanently damage Intel/AMD's latest CPUs. Maybe not 100% idiot proof but pretty close. The only parts I have had die on me were cheap-ass PSUs and hard drives. And no, I didn't overclock either of them.

Sigh, if only I could overclock my 7.2k rpm HDDs to 10k+ :evil:

 
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