Overclocking Guide

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StriderGT

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The use of dividers or ratios is a way of adjusting (lowering) memory frequency in relation to the FSB(=HTT) frequency, thus running your proc in ASYNC (not 1:1) mode. Just read the legend of the values (red, green, blue) in OCA64 and you will understand what is going on....

PS In MSI motherboards these ratios are disguised as Memclocks: 166, 133, 100.
 

UberL33tJarad

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In ASUS boards they're "disguised" as 400, 333, and 266 as 1:1, 5:4, and 3:2, respectively. I don't have much experience with A64, but I gather what I can about them. My guide is outdated as far as the specifics go, but as a "noob" guide it gets the job done. I'll prolly redo the entire guide from scratch this spring/summer. The guide is pretty popular.
 

Malak

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Hmm, are there any cpu OC progs for the 925 chipset? All the ones I find don't support it.
 

spaceghost21

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Well, I still can't seem to get past 223, I lowered the RAM all the way down to 100Mhz, gave it more voltage. I have a Chaintech VNF4 Ultra nForce 4 Mobo w/ KingMax DDR400. I'm going to try messing around a little more. I'll tell you what happens. Any advice, something I'm doing wrong?

EDIT: I've tried pretty much everything I know how to do and I just can't get past 223, is it possible that I just have a CPU that OC's terribly?
 

StriderGT

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EVERYTHING must be kept under a certain limit (green values in the OCA64) so check your HT multiplier and the resulting HT frequency. HT frequency is not the same as FSB=HTT and must be kept in your case under 1000Mhz. Read the corresponding red values (BIOS settings) thatt will help you achieve that more carefully...
 

StriderGT

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Originally posted by: UberL33tJarad
In ASUS boards they're "disguised" as 400, 333, and 266 as 1:1, 5:4, and 3:2, respectively. I don't have much experience with A64, but I gather what I can about them. My guide is outdated as far as the specifics go, but as a "noob" guide it gets the job done. I'll prolly redo the entire guide from scratch this spring/summer. The guide is pretty popular.

Nothing wrong with your guide as far as the other procs are concerned. It just A64 overclocking that is bit tricky to understand (and to explain) at first... Once you get the hang of it, A64 is THE OverClocking Proc out there, bar none...
 

spaceghost21

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Alright thanks a lot StriderGT, I understand it now. Thanks for being so patient, I've never overclocked before so understanding all of this was kind of tricky. Over clocked to about 2.4 Ghz now. Seems stable but not done running Prime 95. Don't think I'll go much further, I can't afford a new rig 8].

EDIT: Seems like it won't go much higher than 270, I've tried giving more voltage and lower HT Frequency, anything above that and Windows will boot about 1/2 way and then start over. Thanks again for all the help.

EDIT2: I bumped the voltage up to 1.6v and is running VERY stable at 280. Don't think I'll make it to 290 as I'm being semi cautious and don't want to raise voltage any higher.
 

StriderGT

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Originally posted by: spaceghost21

EDIT2: I bumped the voltage up to 1.6v and is running VERY stable at 280. Don't think I'll make it to 290 as I'm being semi cautious and don't want to raise voltage any higher.

1.6 volt is a lot if you do not have excellent cooling. Check your temps, not only during idle, but during prime95, try to keep below 65C
 

spaceghost21

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I ran Prime95 all night, about 12 hours(is that long enough?), no errors and temps no higher than 50C. I have vCore set to 1.6 in BIOs but Speedfan rarely shows it above 5.7v. I was a little worried about putting that much voltage through myself but seems good so far.
 

enzo7224

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Where can i find the RAM ratio in the bios? i looked and couldnt find that. its keeping me from overclocking.
 

enzo7224

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stridergt (or anyone) know where i can find the fsb:ram ratios in the bios for msi neo2 k8t800 pro. i can only oc to 2.o ghz and i know it can go farther but i dont know where it is in the mobo. any ideas?
 

StriderGT

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DRAM Clock Mode
Use this field to configure the clock frequency of the installed DRAM. Settings:
[By SPD], [Manual].

Memclock Value (Mhz)
When it is set to [Manual] in ?DRAM Clock Mode?, user can place an artificial
memory clock limit on the system. Please note that memory is prevented from
running faster than this frequency. Setting options: [DDR200], [DDR266],
[DDR300], [DDR333], [DDR400].

The ratios are "hidden" within these values [DDRXXX]. I do not have this board so I can not give you a direct analogy
It could be DDR200=1:2, DDR266=2:3 etc...
Check Current DDR Clock to determine which divider (check PS2 below) is actually being used with each DDRXXX by using the formula:

CPU FSB * divider(x:y) = Current DDR Clock

Keep in mind that the frequency you see there is actually a bit higher than the real one used. To find the real one use Cpu-z or OCA64 (linkbelow) to know all the combinations before hand.



High Performance Mode
This field allows you to select the DDR timing setting. Setting to [Optimized] enables
Adjust DDR Memory Frequency automatically to be determined by SPD. Selecting
[Manual] allows users to configure these fields manually. Setting options: [Optimized],
[Manual].

This field could also play a role in your OC effort (enabling or disabling the memory divider), since I do not have this board try with both enabled and disabled


HT Frequency Select
This item allows you to select the Hyper Transfer frequency. Setting options:
[200Mhz], [400Mhz], [600Mhz], [800Mhz], [1000Mhz].

200= 1x HT multiplier
400= 2x HT multiplier
600= 3x HT multiplier
800= 4x HT multiplier
1000= 5x HT multiplier
So you must choose a value that will keep your HT frequency below 1000Mhz
Example:
CPU FSB=270Mhz (Current CPU clock in your BIOS)
Then you must use [600Mhz] because 3x270=810Mhz and 4x270=1080Mhz above the 1000Mhz spec...



Dynamic Overclocking:Disabled


PS1 I could really use your info to update OCA64 to include your VIA motherboard BIOS settings and their OC results, so please reply with the dividers corresponding to each DDRXXX.
PS2 All the valid dividers are supposed to be: 12:12, 11:12, 10:12, 9:12, 8:12, 7:12, 6:12
which include the well known 12:12=1:1, 10:12=5:6, 8:12=2:3, 6:12=1:2
 

enzo7224

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ok stridergt you really helped my a64 is at 2.225 ghz right now. but if i go higher the cpu speed reads as 0095 mhz. the memory clock also reads at like 025mhz. im guessing that is false and both are actualy higher. what do you think?
 

spaceghost21

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That happened to me, I ignored it, I assume you're saying the bios told you 0095Mhz, CPUZ should tell you the actual speed. I'm no expert on the subject, but I don't think it's anything to worry about. StriderGT, am I correct?
 

enzo7224

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actualy cpuz and the msi corecell both say its at 1800 mhz, but the bios says 2250 mhz. im assuming the bios has the correct speed
 

StriderGT

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Which version of CPU-Z are u using?
Use the latest 1.26
To be certain that your CPU freq is rising, use a benchmark
Did you find the ratio corresponding to each DDRXXX?
Post them please.
 
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That video at beginning of thread is such krap

(1)He just picks the heatsink up from the mobo without unlatching it YEAH RIGHT
(2)There was no agp cord going to monitor from mobo, just an illusiory one
(3)fake accent makes the video really seem korny.
(4) The fan was never running when he approaches mobo
(5) The hole through the mobo and table *YEAH RIGHT* was rigged from underneat the table.

I wish people would use reliable sources when posting on the forum threads. The dangers of overclocking are real, and expensive. any dumarse with PS5 could have made that screenie with CPU-Z Post. cmon people, 4.15 volts to the CPU? The world record team using real liquid nitrogen only used 3.875. AND their CPU was -130C

I jsu thope you know that that explosion is highly unlikely under any circumstance because worst case scenario you will not boot
 

spaceghost21

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Uh, I think it was intended to be funny. Come on man, these guys put a lot of work into helping people, you don't need to flame them. Take a chill pill.
 

UberL33tJarad

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The video is something I found on some site, I think EBaumsWorld. It's obviously a joke but a reminder as well. Ignoring that it's not meant to be taken seriously and analyze it as if it were serious doesn't make you smart or an "out of the box" thinker.
 
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