Overclocking Integrated Graphics

[firewolfsm]

I've tried searching but i can't find any info on this. My freind has nvidia IGP and i was wondering if there is a way to overclock it? He has good cooling on the north bridge and can over volt it if needed but is is even possible? I was thinking of messing with the drivers but I don't know too much about that right now.

 

[AzNPinkTuv]

why would you oc that... you still cant play any games on it

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: AzNPinkTuv
why would you oc that... you still cant play any games on it

Doom 3 can be played on a gF4MX. Don't lie.

- M4H

 

[secretanchitman]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: AzNPinkTuv
why would you oc that... you still cant play any games on it

Doom 3 can be played on a Geforce2 MX. Don't lie.

- M4H

fixed...hehe cause i played it and beat the game on it.

why not OC integrated graphics? i didnt know you could...

 

[Madwand1]

I have a 6150 and I never considered this possibility until now. What you're supposed to do is to get a decent card and stick it in the PCIe slot, which is what I recommend.

You can tweak the built-in as follows:

Create the following registry entry:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\NVTweak]
"CoolBits"=dword:00000003

This will enable the built-in overclocking option in the standard display driver. Use at your own risk. I'd buy a card meant for performance instead.

http://oc3dmark.octeams.com/tip02.html

 

[gobucks]

I overclocked my Xpress 200 from the default 300MHz to 362MHz. It at least makes some games playable, although I generally stick with with strategy games. I used the ATItool thingy, but i think some versions work with some nvidia cards. Overclocking the graphics memory is a no-go though.

 

[F1shF4t]

Originally posted by: gobucks
I overclocked my Xpress 200 from the default 300MHz to 362MHz. It at least makes some games playable, although I generally stick with with strategy games. I used the ATItool thingy, but i think some versions work with some nvidia cards. Overclocking the graphics memory is a no-go though.

lol unless u will overclock ur ram

Actually i was sorta supprised with the performance of the 6150 integrated graphics card, firstly its image quality is actually good and secondly it blows the fx5200 out of the water.
Makes the sis integrated graphics look like crap.

 

[Madwand1]

I like the 6150 for value for money and image quality, but not 3D gaming. Note also that Dark Cupcake has a 6600 GT in his 6150 MB, which is actually a good value / money 3D gaming video card (not considering some of the 7000 series, which should supercede this card in time.)

A 4400Ti beats the 6150 (ref 3DMark03). A 6200 clobbers it. A 6600 GT? ...

 

[firewolfsm]

I get that this won't be good for gaming either way, but a free performance boost is nice. He doesn't want to buy a card. I'll look into coolbits then, i was about to but felt pretty sure it wouldn't work. Thanks

 

[seanp789]

skip one meal a day until you can afford a decent video card.

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: Dark Cupcake

Originally posted by: gobucks
I overclocked my Xpress 200 from the default 300MHz to 362MHz. It at least makes some games playable, although I generally stick with with strategy games. I used the ATItool thingy, but i think some versions work with some nvidia cards. Overclocking the graphics memory is a no-go though.

lol unless u will overclock ur ram

Actually i was sorta supprised with the performance of the 6150 integrated graphics card, firstly its image quality is actually good and secondly it blows the fx5200 out of the water.
Makes the sis integrated graphics look like crap.

Don't think you can overclock ram on a laptop.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: AzNPinkTuv
why would you oc that... you still cant play any games on it

*SIGH*

That's so typical around here. It's people like this... now manufacturers know that they can say something is better for gaming and charge a premium for it. Blame AzNPinkTuv as one person among many who is responsible for top end video cards carrying near $700 MSRP instead of $300 like yesteryear.

Remember, your e-penis size may directly correlate with your framerate, but skills don't.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
why not OC integrated graphics? i didnt know you could...

I toyed a bit back-in-a-day, with the G4MX IGP on nF2, in dual-channel 400DDR with a Barton@2.43ghz and copper Vantec iceberg chipset cooling, det 44.03's, it broke 6k in 3DM'01. Another nForcersHQ member managed closer to 7k. Considering people were buying the crippled 64bit version of the add-in G4MX for 50-75% as much of the whole Soltek IGP I was using, and the IGP was nearly twice as fast in dual-channel, it was an awesome value.Particularly since the Golden Flame overclocked well OOB in every area; man I liked that board.

Remember that it uses system ram, so overclocking it will effect IGP performance to some extent, and to get to the core speed, if coolbits doesn't work, try the latest rivatuner.

 

[Madwand1]

3DMark2001 factors in the CPU performance heavily, and for that is sometimes a better representative of actual game performance than later versions. However it is not reliable as a pure video benchmark for the same reason. So if you were overclocking your CPU, RAM, etc., then part of the reason for better 3D01 marks was because you were getting a double boost on CPU and video.

This is much less so the case with more recent benchmarks, which are very heavily GPU weighted. These also correspond better to performance of GPU-heavy games such as FEAR (at least in normal settings with moderate video gear).

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: Madwand1
3DMark2001 factors in the CPU performance heavily, and for that is sometimes a better representative of actual game performance than later versions. However it is not reliable as a pure video benchmark for the same reason. So if you were overclocking your CPU, RAM, etc., then part of the reason for better 3D01 marks was because you were getting a double boost on CPU and video.

This is much less so the case with more recent benchmarks, which are very heavily GPU weighted. These also correspond better to performance of GPU-heavy games such as FEAR (at least in normal settings with moderate video gear).

No shat? Back then, just as now, it was just a rough indicator of performance. You will find I'm not much for synthetic tests, it is a good way to succinctly relate what performance level the nf2 IGP was capable of at the time, to most users though.

Something I think many don't consider, is just how many new games do users of ultra-budget platforms buy in a given period? I should think their gaming budget is as restricted as there hardware one? I think they tend to play a favorite title such as CS: series, UT series, ect. The 6100 series IGP can run most games at exceptable fps, you just have to turn everything way down, doesn't mean they can't still have fun. A little tweaking can extract at least a few more fps from it, so I say more power to him, and all the "just get a real card" comments from the usual suspects, does not help him achieve that goal :thumbsdown:

 

[Madwand1]

Sure, one set of assumptions on usage lead to one conclusion, and another set of assumptions another, and the OP doesn't provide enough details to actually judge. What we do see is some evidence that the OP's target machine doesn't have the performance wanted of it. However, unless some more details are provided on actual intended resolution and usage, I agree that this debate is pointless.

 

[Yeormom]

I think this a glory title more than anything~ to say "I overclocked my Intel Extreme 2 yo!" or what not. I wouldn't suggest it since if you do burn her up, you'll be buying a new motherboard (possibly more) and not just a video card.

 

[proxopspete]

Originally posted by: Yeormom
I think this a glory title more than anything~ to say "I overclocked my Intel Extreme 2 yo!" or what not. I wouldn't suggest it since if you do burn her up, you'll be buying a new motherboard (possibly more) and not just a video card.

That would be my recommendation/sentiment as well.

 

[Madwand1]

I just looked at Valve's survey results, and notice that FX 5200's are the third most common cards being used, after 6600 series on top and 9600 next. Noting an above poster's remarks on 5200 FX's vs. 6100, and looking at these figures (even if they're not entirely accurate and respresentative, they're large enough to count), I withdraw my above remarks about 6100's not being good enough for 3D gaming. Obviously, for many players, it is. More power to you.

http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html

But still, if you want a significant performance upgrade, then there's an obvious argument to be made for the 6600 GT and its competitors.

 

[Zap]

Madwand1 <=

I still don't get why people outright say that 3D games are unplayable unless you dump a load of cash on a video card. Obviously those people have rich parents and don't have to work for a living and raise kids/pay mortgage/car payments, and obviously they need an e-penis boost.

Me? I felt like I was splurging when I spent nearly $200 on an X850XT, felt almost guilty...

 

[TanisHalfElven]

built in grahics cards are fine for the casual gamer who does not micd playing a 640x480 and missing out on a few things. i belive there's a MSI mobo at newegg for 690 bucks that has a x300 igp. and i know for a fact that that the x300 igp can play quake 4 at low res at high setting.

 

[F1shF4t]

Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
built in grahics cards are fine for the casual gamer who does not micd playing a 640x480 and missing out on a few things. i belive there's a MSI mobo at newegg for 690 bucks that has a x300 igp. and i know for a fact that that the x300 igp can play quake 4 at low res at high setting.

Newer integrated gfx cards are actually starting to be not too bad, i mean in image quality, and now u can actually RUN games, even if it is at low res.

But i know for a fact that some of the older integrated gfx cards are completely guttless like every sis one made, not only did they have bad image quality after u went above 1024 * 768, but u did also not have any custom options etc. (like the 661 chipset integrated one, an fx5200 is like at least 4 times faster)

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: Zap
Madwand1 <=

I still don't get why people outright say that 3D games are unplayable unless you dump a load of cash on a video card. Obviously those people have rich parents and don't have to work for a living and raise kids/pay mortgage/car payments, and obviously they need an e-penis boost.

Me? I felt like I was splurging when I spent nearly $200 on an X850XT, felt almost guilty...

Same feelings here for the most part. It's a much more capable graphics solution than a lot of people realize, especially for mainstream games, not so much the latest and greatest graphically. I also felt really bad buying myself a $175 7600GT a week ago