Overlord Tempest X270OC, 27" 120 Hz IPS - Tom's Hardware

Insomniator

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I'm sure the image is nice, but its odd that it looks like my soyo from 8 years ago. External power brick? 1.5" bezels? 3 inches thick?

But yes, definitely a step in the right direction.
 

BrightCandle

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I would urge a little caution. Tomshardware didn't exactly test this monitors capabilities and claims very thoroughly. I don't see any evidence of high speed capture tests to determine the best and worst motion blur, no oscilloscope testing of the pixel response times, no testing of the overdrive overshoot/undershoot and certainly no objective test of the actual 120hz claim.

The reason to be cautious is because a lot of the monitors that in the past have been "overclockable" have actually ended up just dropping the frames. So while the controller would take them it didn't actually help the image, but it didn't stop the people having these claiming that it looked better. When put into the hands of objective tests however the performance was actually worse than had they not overclocked at all.

So until a reputable monitor tester actually picks it up all you have is Tomshardware's subjective impression of 120hz and blur. IMO that isn't good enough to make a purchasing decision on as it could just plain be wrong, its been wrong in the past on frame pacing and other issues in the past so I wouldn't say these guys have the high eye for high frame rate testing.

I also kind of feel its a bit of a cop out to have the monitor be home overclocked. It would be nice for them to confirm and test it from their end what each monitor is capable of, list some particular frequencies they reach and sell them appropriately. IE they should bin the monitors and sell them dependent on what they are tested to reach. This would take away the chance of getting a lemon one and ensure that you got 120hz if that was what you were trying to reach, all be it potentially for a little more cost.
 

XiandreX

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I would urge a little caution. Tomshardware didn't exactly test this monitors capabilities and claims very thoroughly. I don't see any evidence of high speed capture tests to determine the best and worst motion blur, no oscilloscope testing of the pixel response times, no testing of the overdrive overshoot/undershoot and certainly no objective test of the actual 120hz claim.

The reason to be cautious is because a lot of the monitors that in the past have been "overclockable" have actually ended up just dropping the frames. So while the controller would take them it didn't actually help the image, but it didn't stop the people having these claiming that it looked better. When put into the hands of objective tests however the performance was actually worse than had they not overclocked at all.

So until a reputable monitor tester actually picks it up all you have is Tomshardware's subjective impression of 120hz and blur. IMO that isn't good enough to make a purchasing decision on as it could just plain be wrong, its been wrong in the past on frame pacing and other issues in the past so I wouldn't say these guys have the high eye for high frame rate testing.

I also kind of feel its a bit of a cop out to have the monitor be home overclocked. It would be nice for them to confirm and test it from their end what each monitor is capable of, list some particular frequencies they reach and sell them appropriately. IE they should bin the monitors and sell them dependent on what they are tested to reach. This would take away the chance of getting a lemon one and ensure that you got 120hz if that was what you were trying to reach, all be it potentially for a little more cost.

That is my concern. I would not buy a monitor without a 100% guarantee and I would want it factory setup for the 120Hz.
 

kevinsbane

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The Overlord monitor is indeed an overclockable monitor. This is not one of those sketchy ones that are only advertised as overclockable, it definitely is overclockable. It does not drop frames, and it does full pass show all frames that is sent to it.

The proprietor was actually one of the very first who was able to get his hands on a Catleap "2B" - these are custom engineered from that stock, not the current stock of Qnix/X-stars.

I can't agree with you though, on "test it to its limits, then sell as is". Intel doesn't do that. Video card manufacturers don't do that. And there is so much in the pipeline that affects the ability of any single monitor overclock that it's impossible to guarantee it. Video card, cable, port, drivers, even ambient temperature - all of these are also issues that affect your overclock. It's like saying intel should guarantee a specific (4.4? 4.5? 4.6?) overclock for i7-4770ks or else you won't buy it. No, that's dependent on your motherboard, power supply quality, cpu cooler, ambient temps. That shouldn't stop people from buying 4770k's (or 4790k)

The Overlord monitors are tested to 120hz - they can't guarantee it since it's impossible for the monitor to work out-of-the-box at 120hz. Even if the above physical factors are accounted for, it still requires a circumvention of the software limits that are already present on your computer, imposed by Nvidia and AMD. In the end, the user must circumvent these software limitations on their own.

In any case, don't think of it as a 120hz monitor. It isn't. Think of it as a 60hz "k" series monitor. You pay the premium (is it, really?) for the ability to overclock your monitor beyond what it is normally capable of.
 

BrightCandle

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1440p at 144hz on display port is absolutely within spec. Asus is selling a 1440p@144hz (gsync incidentally) monitor out of the box, guaranteed to achieve that on all the compatible graphics card. This company could absolutely do the same, its not dependent on cables or anything else, the limitation here with 120hz is the monitor itself. Its not the same thing as buying a K model CPU at all, or rather they are choosing to make it the same as the CPU instead of qualifying a real product that is guaranteed to hit a particular level of performance. They have to do it that way, they choose to.
 

kevinsbane

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1440p at 144hz on display port is absolutely within spec. Asus is selling a 1440p@144hz (gsync incidentally) monitor out of the box, guaranteed to achieve that on all the compatible graphics card. This company could absolutely do the same, its not dependent on cables or anything else, the limitation here with 120hz is the monitor itself. Its not the same thing as buying a K model CPU at all, or rather they are choosing to make it the same as the CPU instead of qualifying a real product that is guaranteed to hit a particular level of performance. They have to do it that way, they choose to.
This monitor is more than 1.5 years old now. The Asus gsync monitor isn't out, and is also twice the price. And is only a tn panel. So what if Asus does it that way? If you prefer that, buy it.

Display port doesn't work on this particular model. This is a dual link DVI monitor. You can theorize all you want, the fact remains that you must hack the software to run this monitor at 120fps, it cannot be done without doing so.

I'm not sure how you can say it's not like a k series CPU. They don't sell it as a 120hz monitor. It's absolutely dependent on all those things. It is an overclock. And the "k" series CPUs are no less "real" products. It's an overclockable 60hz monitor. It is what it is.
 

Lyfer

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Sounds too cherry picked for me. They should gone with "Overload Tempest Dragon Spider Platinum Quantum FX" for the name imo.
 
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