Oversteer or Understeer

[SSSnail]

I'd much prefer understeer, with power. I find it easier to manage high speed cornering.

 

[SVT Cobra]

I'll take as close to neutral as I can get thanks. Not to mention all cars on the road understeer, the only way you can make a production car oversteer is playing with the throttle.

 

[Zenmervolt]

You prefer to have the car plough straight ahead into the wall instead of easily-correctable oversteer? You've got to be kidding me.

If you overcook it with understeer, you're going straight ahead, you can't save it effectively. You can catch oversteer and correct it.

I'll take slight oversteer all day every day, and twice on Sundays.

ZV

 

[Syringer]

If racing, oversteer. In normal situations, under.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Neither. I prefer a well balanced car.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

over

 

[Jahee]

Depends which wheels are driving the car, for a frontwheel drive, you're not really going to get oversteer unless you count lift-off oversteer.

But on a rearwheel drive car, oversteer please, easily correctable.. I had enough practice on grass in an old 320i i used to have

 

[Jahee]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Neither. I prefer a well balanced car.

Lol.

 

[Apex]

Slight understeer at the limit, with balance being adjustable with throttle inputs.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
I'll take as close to neutral as I can get thanks. Not to mention all cars on the road understeer, the only way you can make a production car oversteer is playing with the throttle.

You can make a production car oversteer by changing things like spring rates and sway bars also. It's not something you want in a daily driver though and most people on the road couldn't cope with a car that oversteers anyway...which is why most production cars are built with a healthy amount of understeer from the factory.

I'd probably want a car with a slight bit of understeer.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Jahee

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Neither. I prefer a well balanced car.

Lol.

What's to 'lol' about?

 

[MrWizzard]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
I'll take as close to neutral as I can get thanks. Not to mention all cars on the road understeer, the only way you can make a production car oversteer is playing with the throttle.

Not meaning to invalidate you point but I have put cars into oversteer situations by using the break only. Weight transfer making the back end lighten up and loose grip......

Understeer is easier to recover from?. But oversteer is more fun.

 

[Jahee]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Jahee

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Neither. I prefer a well balanced car.

Lol.

What's to 'lol' about?

Drive your car at 70mph at a 40mph corner with a neutral throttle and tell me if you dont understeer.

Edit: Unless you mean having the car just go into a drift?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
You prefer to have the car plough straight ahead into the wall instead of easily-correctable oversteer? You've got to be kidding me.

If you overcook it with understeer, you're going straight ahead, you can't save it effectively. You can catch oversteer and correct it.

I'll take slight oversteer all day every day, and twice on Sundays.

ZV

Understeer is more predictable for most people. You start to plow in a corner and you just reduce throttle and hopefully you aren't going so fast that you can't get the car to turn in again. You want your car to plow straight off the road or do you want the back end to come around and you go off the road sideways or spinning out of control?

I'd be willing to bet that 95% of the respondants who say they'd prefer oversteer wouldn't know what to do with a car that oversteers anyway.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Jahee

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Jahee

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Neither. I prefer a well balanced car.

Lol.

What's to 'lol' about?

Drive your car at 70mph at a 40mph corner with a neutral throttle and tell me if you dont understeer.

Really? You need to consider inputs to the round thing in front of you...

Anyhow, my car would just go round a 40Mph corner at 70 just fine.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
You prefer to have the car plough straight ahead into the wall instead of easily-correctable oversteer? You've got to be kidding me.

If you overcook it with understeer, you're going straight ahead, you can't save it effectively. You can catch oversteer and correct it.

I'll take slight oversteer all day every day, and twice on Sundays.

ZV

Understeer is more predictable for most people. You start to plow in a corner and you just reduce throttle and hopefully you aren't going so fast that you can't get the car to turn in again. You want your car to plow straight off the road or do you want the back end to come around and you go off the road sideways or spinning out of control?

I'd be willing to bet that 95% of the respondants who say they'd prefer oversteer wouldn't know what to do with a car that oversteers anyway.

That's probably correct, seeing as the proper way to set up a racecar for professional drivers, even on very tight, technical tracks, is with a slight attitude of understeer. Yes, slight understeer, not even neutral.

 

[Jahee]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Jahee

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Jahee

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Neither. I prefer a well balanced car.

Lol.

What's to 'lol' about?

Drive your car at 70mph at a 40mph corner with a neutral throttle and tell me if you dont understeer.

Really? You need to consider inputs to the round thing in front of you...

Anyhow, my car would just go round a 40Mph corner at 70 just fine.

Which is partly why i made the comment

 

[SampSon]

I don't really get myself into situations where I would care about under or oversteer. When I do get into one of thoes situations I really only care about not crashing.

 

[pray4mojo]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
You prefer to have the car plough straight ahead into the wall instead of easily-correctable oversteer? You've got to be kidding me.

If you overcook it with understeer, you're going straight ahead, you can't save it effectively. You can catch oversteer and correct it.

I'll take slight oversteer all day every day, and twice on Sundays.

ZV

Understeer is more predictable for most people. You start to plow in a corner and you just reduce throttle and hopefully you aren't going so fast that you can't get the car to turn in again. You want your car to plow straight off the road or do you want the back end to come around and you go off the road sideways or spinning out of control?

I'd be willing to bet that 95% of the respondants who say they'd prefer oversteer wouldn't know what to do with a car that oversteers anyway.

I know. I learned from Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
You prefer to have the car plough straight ahead into the wall instead of easily-correctable oversteer? You've got to be kidding me.

If you overcook it with understeer, you're going straight ahead, you can't save it effectively. You can catch oversteer and correct it.

I'll take slight oversteer all day every day, and twice on Sundays.

ZV

Understeer is more predictable for most people. You start to plow in a corner and you just reduce throttle and hopefully you aren't going so fast that you can't get the car to turn in again. You want your car to plow straight off the road or do you want the back end to come around and you go off the road sideways or spinning out of control?

I'd be willing to bet that 95% of the respondants who say they'd prefer oversteer wouldn't know what to do with a car that oversteers anyway.

I don't drive fast enough on public roads to overcook the car and a car that oversteers past the limit feels better when it's not being driven at 10/10ths.

On the track, I want slight oversteer with a nice progressive onset, just like my 951 is set up to provide. Can easily tell when the back is starting to want to come around and you just feather the throttle a little to keep her in control.

ZV

 

[RichUK]

I don?t race around roads so I don?t really have a preference.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Jahee

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Jahee

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Jahee

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Neither. I prefer a well balanced car.

Lol.

What's to 'lol' about?

Drive your car at 70mph at a 40mph corner with a neutral throttle and tell me if you dont understeer.

Really? You need to consider inputs to the round thing in front of you...

Anyhow, my car would just go round a 40Mph corner at 70 just fine.

Which is partly why i made the comment

Oh, OK! I don't really whore out what I drive too much so I just assume people think I drive a Civic.

 

[ballmode]

on dry, rear wheel drive

on wet/slick - front wheel drive

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Apex
That's probably correct, seeing as the proper way to set up a racecar for professional drivers, even on very tight, technical tracks, is with a slight attitude of understeer. Yes, slight understeer, not even neutral.

Steady-state, yes.

In a corner you should start accelerating before the apex and with a proper line a car that exhibits a slight steady-state understeer will become effectively neutral with full power applied in a corner. If the car oversteers in a steady-state condition, it will oversteer more on full power in a corner, which is bad.

That said, I am vastly more confident in my ability to catch a spin than in my ability to stop the car from ploughing into the wall, and a too-quick throttle lift in an understeering car can result in wicked snap-oversteer as the front wheels suddenly bite again and whip the front of the car around, leaving the lightly-loaded rear to sling-shot around.

Oversteer is twitchy, and tiring to drive for long periods, but I prefer it and feel much safer with it.

Ideally, I want the following: Slight oversteer on corner entry, sliding through neutrality to very slight understeer on corner exit.

ZV

 

[Cerberus2k7]

Oversteer. At least you can still turn using the throttle when you're oversteering. That and it's more fun.