We also need to be clear that there's a difference between linear range understeer (always bad IMO) and limit handling understeer which is what is helpful on coner exit on a racetrack.
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
I'll take as close to neutral as I can get thanks. Not to mention all cars on the road understeer, the only way you can make a production car oversteer is playing with the throttle.
You can make a production car oversteer by changing things like spring rates and sway bars also. It's not something you want in a daily driver though and most people on the road couldn't cope with a car that oversteers anyway...which is why most production cars are built with a healthy amount of understeer from the factory.
I'd probably want a car with a slight bit of understeer.
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
We also need to be clear that there's a difference between linear range understeer (always bad IMO) and limit handling understeer which is what is helpful on coner exit on a racetrack.
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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Steady-state, yes.Originally posted by: Apex
That's probably correct, seeing as the proper way to set up a racecar for professional drivers, even on very tight, technical tracks, is with a slight attitude of understeer. Yes, slight understeer, not even neutral.
In a corner you should start accelerating before the apex and with a proper line a car that exhibits a slight steady-state understeer will become effectively neutral with full power applied in a corner. If the car oversteers in a steady-state condition, it will oversteer more on full power in a corner, which is bad.
That said, I am vastly more confident in my ability to catch a spin than in my ability to stop the car from ploughing into the wall, and a too-quick throttle lift in an understeering car can result in wicked snap-oversteer as the front wheels suddenly bite again and whip the front of the car around, leaving the lightly-loaded rear to sling-shot around.
Oversteer is twitchy, and tiring to drive for long periods, but I prefer it and feel much safer with it.
Ideally, I want the following: Slight oversteer on corner entry, sliding through neutrality to very slight understeer on corner exit.
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Originally posted by: SSSnail
I'd much prefer understeer, with power. I find it easier to manage high speed cornering.
You have them backwards.Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I can still control my RWD car when it understeers if I over-do it around a corner by modulating the throttle. Oversteer leads me into oncoming traffic, unless I come off the throttle completely.
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
You have them backwards.Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I can still control my RWD car when it understeers if I over-do it around a corner by modulating the throttle. Oversteer leads me into oncoming traffic, unless I come off the throttle completely.
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Originally posted by: JEDI
Originally posted by: SSSnail
I'd much prefer understeer, with power. I find it easier to manage high speed cornering.
whats the diff?
how do u know which one your doing?