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evident

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iforgot to include my battlenet id

username: evident #1281

Noticed that everyone is playing as ana and dva recently.
We were playing king's row attacking and this dva player kept bossing the rest of the team around when he was so bad- kept attacking by himself and then bitching that we weren't coming w/ him. totally ruined the match for the rest of us. we did pretty well on defense too but the rest of the team just checked out at that point, pretty much gave up just to hear him rage and bitch over the mic.
 
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Fingolfin269

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Evident, one of these days we will be active and online at the same time again!

Out of town currently but hope to have a chance to play some this weekend. Looking forward to seeing what the changes do to game.
 

michal1980

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this game can be one of the most frustrating to play with a team completely full of noobs. I dont quit games, but man have I come close.
 

Aikouka

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this game can be one of the most frustrating to play with a team completely full of noobs. I dont quit games, but man have I come close.

Heck, it can be bad playing with people in a premade group! I knew one of the guys in the group last night, but the matches were just bad. This one time on Hollywood (Attack) really irked me. We had an Ana (our one random) and a Reinhardt, so I decided to go Lucio. As expected, the Ana was useless as I don't think they ever healed and would always go off on their own. However, I told my group that I would be pushing us in using Lucio's speed boost. Well, I had my Amp Up available and my ultimate, so we were pushing in and I hit my ultimate... and my group just completely backed out because Torbjorn used his ultimate.

I was so mad about that. "What the #$@% are they doing!? They have sound barrier and a Reinhardt shield to use! Just kill the stupid turret!" It's also worth noting that Torbjorn was the ONLY enemy on point, so it wasn't 5 of us (Anna being useless again!) vs. 6 of them + a level 3 turret.
 

michal1980

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Heck, it can be bad playing with people in a premade group! I knew one of the guys in the group last night, but the matches were just bad. This one time on Hollywood (Attack) really irked me. We had an Ana (our one random) and a Reinhardt, so I decided to go Lucio. As expected, the Ana was useless as I don't think they ever healed and would always go off on their own. However, I told my group that I would be pushing us in using Lucio's speed boost. Well, I had my Amp Up available and my ultimate, so we were pushing in and I hit my ultimate... and my group just completely backed out because Torbjorn used his ultimate.

I was so mad about that. "What the #$@% are they doing!? They have sound barrier and a Reinhardt shield to use! Just kill the stupid turret!" It's also worth noting that Torbjorn was the ONLY enemy on point, so it wasn't 5 of us (Anna being useless again!) vs. 6 of them + a level 3 turret.


I just play random, and using Lucio's ult seems useless. I try to time it as we are rushing a point, but more often then not people just run away.
 

CrowDog

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this game can be one of the most frustrating to play with a team completely full of noobs. I dont quit games, but man have I come close.

This is one of the most frustrating games I have ever played period. I haven't played since a few weeks after launch and don't plan to ever play again. I'm a gamer so I still keep up on the news and check threads like this but that's as close as I will get to this game. I was actually really surprised at how frustrating this game can be.
 
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michal1980

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This is one of the most frustrating games I have ever played period. I haven't played since a few weeks after launch and don't plan to ever play again. I'm a gamer so I still keep up on the news and check threads like this but that's as close as I will get to this game. I was actually really surprised at how frustrating this game can be.

I wouldn't go that far. Maybe because I normally play bf 32v32. But with these small teams noobs are more apparent. (i'm not very good at it, still figuring out all the counter [I guess I should just google).

But there are some people out there that are just freaking dense.

Volskaya Industries. Noob plays as torb/bastion. Sets up on the moving platform to attack.
 

BoberFett

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I just play random, and using Lucio's ult seems useless. I try to time it as we are rushing a point, but more often then not people just run away.

Depends on the team and how well they're working together, obviously, but there's a couple things you can do. First, announce that it's ready using your chat dial. Second, are you watching your "in range" indicator to see how many people are in range of your effects before using it?
 

Worthington

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normally I have a pretty decent time with this game, even solo queued. But I just lost my 5th in a row and am getting pretty triggered.
 

michal1980

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Depends on the team and how well they're working together, obviously, but there's a couple things you can do. First, announce that it's ready using your chat dial. Second, are you watching your "in range" indicator to see how many people are in range of your effects before using it?

Definitely using the range. might have to get better at announcing it.
 

BoberFett

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Definitely using the range. might have to get better at announcing it.

Sometimes I'll use Mercy or Zenyatta, but my go to healer is Lucio. He can be crazy powerful when you have a team that plays well together, and he's one of my favorite characters overall. Especially on Control maps. Using your amped speed boost to get to the point first where you can establish defensive positions is HUGE. If your team stays in relatively close proximity, the amped healing can quickly get a team back to full health. And one of my favorite type of kills in Overwatch is bouncing somebody over the edge of the map. :biggrin:
 

Aikouka

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I've never been a huge fan of Lucio. Sure he pulls in numbers, but I find that a lot of that is just the small incidental stuff. I've just had way too many situations where I've already used my amplify and my team or a single player is taking even more damage, but the passive heal can't sustain them.

Now, he's not a bad character, but I definitely prefer his abilities for pushing points (like I mentioned above). It's also nice to use an amp'd movement speed to boost McCree or Reaper during their ults.
 

BoberFett

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None of the healers in this game can heal through concentrated fire, not even Mercy. Lucio will give the entire team (within range) just the slight boost they need through a team-on-team fight to ensure the other team has more people respawning than you do.

That's my take anyway. Of course everything is situational, when defending on an Assault map the Mercy-Bastion combo is brutally powerful.
 

Aikouka

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It's not necessarily concentrated fire, but when one of your teammates is at 25% health and amp is on cooldown, the best you can do is say, "Go get a health pack!", because the piddly AoE heal isn't going to take them out of danger. On the other hand, Mercy can handle that. That's why I prefer Mercy. I feel like I have more control over my healing distribution.
 

Worthington

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Lucio's real utility is his speed boost. No, he can't really heal through concentrated fire but a good lucio will swap to boost to help teammates out of an over-extension or chase down a low health enemy that's about to get away.
 

Midwayman

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Lucio is a proactive healer. Mercy is a reactive one. Lucio is about making sure everyone is topped up before going into a fight and then sustaining. Mercy is about picking people up. Their ults work the same general way too. Lucio is about proactively ulting *before* everyone really needs healing. Mercy is reacting to people getting wiped.

Just different ways of looking at healing I think. I prefer to play Lucio myself as I feel like I'm doing more. Mercy just feels so helpless to me.
 

michal1980

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Lucio is a proactive healer. Mercy is a reactive one. Lucio is about making sure everyone is topped up before going into a fight and then sustaining. Mercy is about picking people up. Their ults work the same general way too. Lucio is about proactively ulting *before* everyone really needs healing. Mercy is reacting to people getting wiped.

Just different ways of looking at healing I think. I prefer to play Lucio myself as I feel like I'm doing more. Mercy just feels so helpless to me.

I just dont like that with mercy I have to switch to attempt an attack. The strong kill boost helps her be a bit more useful.

I played a round with Ana yesterday, not to bad, but I need to work on my twitch aim to play with her. I almost feel that her bomb and sleep might be a bit too strong.
 

zerocool84

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Lucio is a proactive healer. Mercy is a reactive one. Lucio is about making sure everyone is topped up before going into a fight and then sustaining. Mercy is about picking people up. Their ults work the same general way too. Lucio is about proactively ulting *before* everyone really needs healing. Mercy is reacting to people getting wiped.

Just different ways of looking at healing I think. I prefer to play Lucio myself as I feel like I'm doing more. Mercy just feels so helpless to me.
His speed boost matched with his ult is a great combo to take over a point. Unfortunately that requires a coordinated team but I had one of those good moments @ Anubis last night.

Most players aren't used to how fast the players move when on speed boost so you can very easily take over a point with it on.
 

evident

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I just dont like that with mercy I have to switch to attempt an attack. The strong kill boost helps her be a bit more useful.

I played a round with Ana yesterday, not to bad, but I need to work on my twitch aim to play with her. I almost feel that her bomb and sleep might be a bit too strong.


that sleep skill really shut me down one game.
 

s44

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Apparently Ana can sleep a Torb turret. Very funny when it's Molten Core-ing.
 

Midwayman

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Man, McCree is friggen insane now. If you get a good one in a game now you get instantly headshotted every time you round a corner. Way worse than widow ever was.
 

Phanuel

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Removed the damage drop off from LMB. So he's doing 70 damage at most engagement ranges now. Head+body kills most people.
 

Midwayman

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Removed the damage drop off from LMB. So he's doing 70 damage at most engagement ranges now. Head+body kills most people.

Yup, but he has a pretty good short range game with flashbang and fan the hammer so he's hard to deal with close than widowmaker is. Get an orb of discord on someone and its really insane.
 
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