P180 PSU - which one?

[Bobthelost]

Originally posted by: pulsedrive

Originally posted by: Bobthelost
Enermax liberty, Antec NeoHE, Seasonic s12.

The s12 has shorter cables than optimum, but just long enough. The Neo HE would be my PSU of choice if it weren't for the reliability issues.

Why do I keep hearing about reliability problems with the HE's? I have one that runs perfefctly. The only problems I have heard about them is for one particular MoBo, so there isn't anything WRONG with them, they just have problems with one type of Asus mobo I think.

Because there is a problem with some of them. As such recomending them without mentioning it would be dishonest. Of course if you've got one of the ones that's not a problem then it's a great PSU. Otherwise...

 

[Baenwort]

I've got the Silverstone ST60F modular PSU. It will fit into the case but you either have to swap the bottom fan to the other side of the divider wall or get a less thick fan as the modular plugs stick out to far for the default fan. Also, the fan opening on the ST60F doesn't line up with the opening ontop of the PSU holder. The cables are more then long enough to reach everywhere(top 5.25 is reached no problem with the cable with the floppy plug on the end) and the MB cables are also more then long enough to route them well. The only problem I have with this PSU is that the SATA cables are all on one plug so you either have to use all the plugs or none of them. There is no option to just use 1 or 2 plugs so you don't have as many spare cables laying around.

 

[Gadzookie]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103931

anyone know if they powersupply will be fine im planning on getting this case also

 

[Bobthelost]

I am using this one to power my system:
Antec TruePower 2.0 TP2-550 EPS12V ATX12V 550W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103932
Specs of system in sig.

I'm using a TruePower 2.0 430W in mine, no issues.

You could have read the thread. :rolleyes;

 

[McPudd]

Using an Enermax Liberty 620W modular, 2 500GB SATA 3GB/s HDDs and the 120x38mm fan
at LOW in the lower chamber.
It and the rest of the case is cool, quiet and I have no qualms about the quality of Enermax.

Happy trailz,

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: Bobthelost
Enermax liberty, Antec NeoHE, Seasonic s12.

The s12 has shorter cables than optimum, but just long enough. The Neo HE would be my PSU of choice if it weren't for the reliability issues.

High close are you cutting it with the S12? S12 versus Enermax Liberty is what I am down to. Is the extra noise worth the extra cable slack in the Enermax?

 

[Bobthelost]

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: Bobthelost
Enermax liberty, Antec NeoHE, Seasonic s12.

The s12 has shorter cables than optimum, but just long enough. The Neo HE would be my PSU of choice if it weren't for the reliability issues.

High close are you cutting it with the S12? S12 versus Enermax Liberty is what I am down to. Is the extra noise worth the extra cable slack in the Enermax?

Well the cabling in my case is a mess, partly because i can't be bothered to sort it, but the 4 pin adapter is very, very short. If i were to use all the PCI card slots then it wouldn't fit, i think the same goes for routing it over the top of the cards.

The enermax probably wins by a tiny margin. If only the antec Neo HE didn't have the bloody compatability issues! :|

 

[sygyzy]

Bobthelost - Thanks for the info. I guess that sort of forces me (or helps me) make a decision. I really wanted the S12. Enermax it is, I guess. Do we know for certain that the Liberty has longer cables? What other cases did you consider? Before I end up threadjacking, can you answer my questions in my build thread, Bob? You have ben most helpful.

 

[McPudd]

Bobthelost
4 Pin 12v P 4 Extension PC Power Cables (33cm/12.99?)
4pin 12V ATX plug - 4pin ATX jack
Designed to extend the 4 pin 12V power supply between the mains
adaptor and the motherboard. Or similar.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Search.aspx?criteria=A46AK&DOY=4m3

Happy trailz,

 

[sygyzy]

Too bad there isn't a US retailer. 2.99 pounds plus shipping to US for a cable that weighs a few ounces. Next thing you know, you are out $10.

What is the 4 pin for? The motherboard doesn't get enough power from the 24 pin? It needs an additional 4?

 

[McPudd]

sygyzy:

The link I gave was just to give an rough spec and visual example of the sort of cable needed.

Key words: "Or similar".

There should be more mfs/suppliers of this kind of cable extender in the US than in he UK.

Google.

 

[Jazzatola]

Originally posted by: pulsedrive
Why do I keep hearing about reliability problems with the HE's? I have one that runs perfefctly....they just have problems with one type of Asus mobo I think.

Anyone know which mobo in particular? I'm planning on pairing a P180 and 550W NeoHE with the A8N SLI Premium.

Thx.

 

[Fraggable]

Don't use a X-connect 500W.

The cables are long enough but they're so stiff you can't work with them in that case, and you're forced to route them through the space where the fan should be in the bottom chamber.

I speak from painful experience.

 

[LordSnailz]

argh, same issue here, I have the antec 400W SP2 and it doesn't reach, any real harm in getting the extension vs a brand new PSU?

 

[Jazzatola]

Do any of the PSU manufacturers publish cable lengths? Or do any manufacturers provide consistently long cables? working out which PSUs are suitable is a real headache!

 

[Bobthelost]

I think that some review sites list cable lengths, SPCR might. But tbh it's easier just to ask on here than to search through tens of reviews.

LordSnailz: Extensions are ok, they create a small amount of reisitance because they are going through another connector, but it should be ok. A new (non antec) PSU may be preferable, but if it runs your system then there's no point in replacing it yet.

 

[Jazzatola]

I posted earlier that I was planning on an Antec 550W NeoHE and the A8N SLI Premium but have changed my mind now. Now I'm planning on the following system:

P180
Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe
2 x Evga 7900 GTX
Creative X-Fi

So I need a psu with cables long enough to be routed around the three cards to the power connector on the top left of the motherboard.

I was thinking of a Seasonic S12 - any comments?

 

[Bobthelost]

It won't work, not without extensions, there is no way to route the cable with that motherboard and two cards in SLI with a S12.

 

[Jazzatola]

Bummer. Guess I'll have a rethink. Thanks for letting me know.

EDIT - Just found over at SPCR that there's a new version of the s12:

http://www.case-mod.com/store/power-supplies-seasonic-c-29_97.html

"This is the new *sleeved* version Seasonic S12 600 Watt 600W Power Supply. It now has 9 HDD connectors (previously 6) and 6 SATA connectors (previously 4). The cables are fully sleeved in black sleeving. The cables are also slightly longer to accomodate larger cases. This model is nVIDIA SLI and ATI Crossfire approved. It is RoHS compliant."

Maybe this one will be ok. I'm not planning to put my new machine together for a month or two yet so I'll just wait and see what the verdict is.

 

[Scorpion]

Originally posted by: TheNewGuy8
I JUST built a P180 system yesterday with an Enermax Liberty 500w.

Fits perfectly and with minimul clutter. Sexy PSU too - comes with a carrying case for all the extra cables.

Good to hear. I just got the same PSU and Case, and I'll be putting it all together when the last components arrive tommorow.

I didn't do any research either, I know I probably should have. I just happened to pick 2 good products that work well together.

 

[Alaric360]

I'm running an Antec TruePower 2.0 EPS550W in mine and it works like a dream. Cables are plenty long enough

 

[drunkencactus]

Alaric what motherboard?

It depends which way you thread the cables through the case, the Antec TR 2 wont reach a Asus A8N Sli motherboard unless u go over the graphics card but im pretty sure that still wont reach, maybe if u flip the psu. and you wouldnt want to go over the GPU making contact with it..

the CoolMaster Real Power 550W is a great powersupply and it will reach.



Its quite dumb that an Antec case and an Antec powersupply are not compatible