P4 2.8c = AMD 64 ????

grabadude

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I want to upgrade soon, would like to know the performance difference if i upgrade to AMD 64 3200 for example.

my system now:

2.8c
Gig of ram in dual channel
nvidia 6800GT
 

Appledrop

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i cant remember how my old p4 @ 2.7 performed, but i do love my new a64 , brill overclocker if u get the 939 as well
 

RussianSensation

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Depends on the applications. Obviously A64 is faster in gaming so A64 3200+ would be quite a boost. However, with your videocard, I imagine you play at 1280x1024 4AA/8AF or higher so I dont see CPU being much of a limitation.

overclock that 2.8C to say 3.2ghz and you are fine. Most 2.8C should hit 3.4 with some tweaking, so you can start with that.

Here is HL2 cpu comparisons - anything above 50frames should be smooth.

Half-Life 2 CPU Shootout: AMD versus Intel

Sure you'll get a benefit, especially if you overclock that A64. However, if I was in your shoes, i'd save $200 on A64 3200 + $100 on new mobo = $300. Then upgrade later to a full-fledged system using PCIe and Nforce 4 or something along those lines.

Of course if you can sell P4 2.8 and the mobo and put that down towards the A64 system with PCIe, then sure I'd probably do that instead so your upgrade cost isnt $300.

 

grabadude

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Wow, at 1600x1200 amd 3200 has the same performance as P4 3.6 :Q

At 1280x1024 no aa/ 8 af i get 50-60 fps average in HL2
 

uOpt

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Depends on the application.

From what I measured on my boxes, my Northwood 2.8C P4 is about 10-20% slower than my Newcastle 3400+ for CPU-intensive long tasks like encoding and compilation, which means they have exactly the same performance for the dollar given current prices.

However, if you move on to non-numberchrunching things like PHP, Python and CMUCL-compiled Lisp code the AMD64 begins to be twice as fast as the P4, and mysql benchmark said the AMD is 3 times as fast, but I think I want to verify that the benchmark didn't screw up before I take that at face value.

For games there's a few CPU shootouts for HL2 and Doom3 out.
 

Lithan

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Ati and WD are banned from your systems? Harsh man. I use WD almost exclusively and I've never had so much as an unrecoverable bad sector. And ATI and Nvidia are both great companies in my opinion. I buy whatever is the best value at the time (9700/9800 line for a long time, 6800gt now)
 

Vee

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I want to upgrade soon, would like to know the performance difference if i upgrade to AMD 64 3200 for example.

my system now:

2.8c
Gig of ram in dual channel
nvidia 6800GT

I wouldn't upgrade that, just yet.
I consider the 2.8P4C to be a very good CPU, for many purposes. For some special purposes, software that doesn't run well on P4, it has the usual Intel weaknesses. But that shouldn't normally be a consideration. The clock vs FSB seem to be close to optimal in the 2.8, since I can't see much, or any, performance advantage for 3.0 or 3.2.

Going A64 3200 will also lose you hyperthreading. Yes, AMD have an advantage at gaming, but do you need it right now?
 

dguy6789

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Yea, your system is fine as it is. If you think you are cpu limited in games, crank up the aa/af/res and you wont be.
 
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