P4 3.0c Retail Box & ECS 848P-A $199 at Fry's

[techiecool]

FYI, the 848P chipset has been discontinued by intel.

 

[woodscomp]

As will the 875P and the 865G and PE.


The 848 is not a bad chipset, just a stripped down 865.

 

[JasGra]

I have the same MB from Fry?s. How are you overclocking? I don?t even have a clock ratio in my BIOS. I have a 2.8 P4 which is supposed to have a FSB of 800 but the clock only goes from 0-250. Any Ideas?

 

[htne]

Originally posted by: JasGra
I have the same MB from Fry?s. How are you overclocking? I don?t even have a clock ratio in my BIOS. I have a 2.8 P4 which is supposed to have a FSB of 800 but the clock only goes from 0-250. Any Ideas?

You need to go hang out in the overclockers forum for awhile. Your FSB is 200 mhz, multiplier is 14. The 800 mhz is an advertising claim, based on "quad pumped". Any FSB over 200 is an overclock, 220 mhz will yield 220 times 14 equals 3080 mhz cpu speed.

 

[JasGra]

Sorry, I will.

My clock is at 200 but I have no multiplier option anywhere. I ran Belarc and it said I'm still at 200FSB.

I'll check out that forum.

Thanks for the help.

 

[fleshconsumed]

I dunno why you guys are coming so hard on ECS. FYI ECS is an EPOX subsidiary, so I think ECS mobos should have the same quality control as EPOX. My dad bought two ECS/AthlonXP combos (since they were so dirt-cheap) at FRYs already and had zero problems with them.

 

[JasGra]

I'm not comign down on them, I'm just hoping for a little help from someone that ran into to the same no multiplier option that I ran into. I have nothing against the board as of yet, I just want to get it cranking to its full capacity.

 

[compfreak999]

for the ppl that dont know
E=prescott
C=northwood
EE=extreme edition
ES=engineer sample

not sure if EE is northwood though, someone answer that please

 

[fleshconsumed]

Originally posted by: JasGra
I'm not comign down on them, I'm just hoping for a little help from someone that ran into to the same no multiplier option that I ran into. I have nothing against the board as of yet, I just want to get it cranking to its full capacity.

You are asking for impossible. Intel disabled multiplier option on all of their processors (except maybe engineering samples) long time ago which means that all motherboards will have that option disabled too. The only way you can overclock your CPU is through FSB.

 

[JasGra]

Anyone know how to play with the FSB on a ECS 848P-A and P4 2.8?

 

[cw42]

Originally posted by: gururu
motion to ban Fry ads.....ARRRRGGH!

but really, if I were back in Cali, be there in a second...

i second that

 

[kennyG]

hEY DO THEY HAVE THIS ON THIER SITE..OUTPOST/FRYS..
cOULD BE A BLIND QUESTION..BUT i NEED TO KNOW

 

[HFC]

I don't have this particular board. However, typically to get into BIOS during boot up by pressing the "del" key. Then pick "advanced chipset feature" from the menu. Change "Memory Frequency For" from auto to 2xx. How high you can go depends on your memory, CPU, Power Supply, etc. Make sure you also go to "Frequency Control" to turn off spread sprectrum and lock AGP/PCI to 66/33 respectively.

 

[Nutzo]

Originally posted by: JasGra
I have the same MB from Fry?s. How are you overclocking? I don?t even have a clock ratio in my BIOS. I have a 2.8 P4 which is supposed to have a FSB of 800 but the clock only goes from 0-250. Any Ideas?

You don't change the ratio, just increase the clock speed.

Go into setup. On the top right side is a menu choice called "Frequency Control"

Set the AGP/PCI to 66/33 to lock the PCI/AGP buss

The increase the CPU clock to whatevery you want (up to 250 I think).

Of course make sure your memory can handle it.

 

[JasGra]

Thanks 1,000,000. I can't wait to try this.

 

[EF9]

outpost has Intel® P4 2.8GHz E (800FSB) Box CPU With Motherboard for $169

 

[rwutang]

forgive me if i sound ignorant, but why is the p4 3.0c a better chip than the 3.0e??

it seems like the 3.0c has half the L2 cache of the 3.0e (512 vs 1meg), shouldn't this make it faster? maybe it has something to do with the L1 cache specs? i couldn't really find much about the differences, maybe someone can enlighten me =)

 

[Childs]

There is nothing wrong with this board. I had a 2.6c running at 3Ghz in it. Its basic, but it gets the job done. For those that don't plan on advanced overclocking and want something reasonably fast, this combo is a decent deal. The A64 3000 combo looks to be better, because the board has almost everything.

 

[VooDooAddict]

Originally posted by: rwutang
forgive me if i sound ignorant, but why is the p4 3.0c a better chip than the 3.0e??

it seems like the 3.0c has half the L2 cache of the 3.0e (512 vs 1meg), shouldn't this make it faster? maybe it has something to do with the L1 cache specs? i couldn't really find much about the differences, maybe someone can enlighten me =)

I'll give you the real quick answer, maybe someone can point you to the articles that validate this:

It has to do with the prescott's new longer pipeline. The 3.0e's have a longer pipeling then the 3.0c's. So in effect, for some operations it takes more clock cycles to perform on 3.0e then 3.0c. The 3.0e however does however benefit from the more frequent cache hits of the 1mb and the enhanced HyperThreading. But many programs still just perform better on the shorter pipelines of the 3.0c.

(Differant pipeline lengths are one of the primary reasons the AMD chips perform so well compared to Intel chips of a higher clockrate. please don't turn this into an AMD vs Intel thing ... it's just an example.)

S[o what happened to the 3.0d ? ]


Chris