P4 @ 800mhz vs. Athlon @ 400mhz

[eqmassa]

I?m designing a new system for high-end gaming, and my first decision needs to be in regards to a processor. Currently, Pentium?s top processor is running on an 800mhz FSB, whereas AMD?s are at 400mhz (with the very popular Barton 2500+ at 333mhz). As for pricing, one case would be that it?s $166 for P4 2.4GHz at 800mhz compared to $160 for an Athlon 2.8GHz at 400mhz.

Correct me if I?m wrong, but assuming that one has a high-end motherboard that can handle such a powerful FSB, GPU, etc., wouldn?t the aforementioned P4 outperform the Athlon? Thus, wouldn?t it be a better buy in the long-run to go with the P4? AMD is certainly the value buy in most cases, but an 800mhz FSB seems to dwarf a 400mhz one.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: eqmassa
I?m designing a new system for high-end gaming, and my first decision needs to be in regards to a processor. Currently, Pentium?s top processor is running on an 800mhz FSB, whereas AMD?s are at 400mhz (with the very popular Barton 2500+ at 333mhz). As for pricing, one case would be that it?s $166 for P4 2.4GHz at 800mhz compared to $160 for an Athlon 2.8GHz at 400mhz.

Correct me if I?m wrong, but assuming that one has a high-end motherboard that can handle such a powerful FSB, GPU, etc., wouldn?t the aforementioned P4 outperform the Athlon? Thus, wouldn?t it be a better buy in the long-run to go with the P4? AMD is certainly the value buy in most cases, but an 800mhz FSB seems to dwarf a 400mhz one.

there is no such thing as a 2.8 ghz athlon at 400 mhz, maybe you are thinking of a 2800+ and it too is 333 fsb. the 3000+ and the 3200+ are the only amd cpus with 400 mhz fsb. either way, if you have the money, i recommend the 2.4C esp. if you are gonna overclock, since it'll prolly get you to 3+GHz

 

[sman789]

there is no 2.8ghz amd....if there was it'd be the fastest evar!!! Your looking at a 2800+ which is around 2ghz sumthin

even tho i have an intel i'd say get an amd less than $100 then go crazy on the video card.....i just went midrange for both cpu/videocard....its performs well but nothing like a 2500+ with a 9800pro/FX5900

 

[stevejst]

3DMark2001SE:
Radeon 8500 with Barton 2500+ @ 3200+ ... 9400+
Radeon 8500 with Intel 2.4C @ 3.2 GHz ... 11,000+

And I am talking about the same card literally.

That says it all. Intel is on top at this time.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: stevejst
3DMark2001SE.
Radeon 8500 with Barton 2500+ @ 3200+ ... 9400+
Radeon 8500 with Intel 2.4C @ 3.2 GHz ... 11,000+

That says it all. Intel is on top at this time.

still not bad for a $90 chip though

 

[stevejst]

still not bad for a $90 chip though

True, though I am cheaper than that, I paid this Barton only $63.75.

 

[AkumaX]

Originally posted by: stevejst
3DMark2001SE:
Radeon 8500 with Barton 2500+ @ 3200+ ... 9400+
Radeon 8500 with Intel 2.4C @ 3.2 GHz ... 11,000+

And I am talking about the same card literally.

That says it all. Intel is on top at this time.

damn i want one... must resist going back to the light side....

however, d/ling that universal AMD clock reader, says my comp's a "3700+"

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: AkumaX

Originally posted by: stevejst
3DMark2001SE:
Radeon 8500 with Barton 2500+ @ 3200+ ... 9400+
Radeon 8500 with Intel 2.4C @ 3.2 GHz ... 11,000+

And I am talking about the same card literally.

That says it all. Intel is on top at this time.

damn i want one... must resist going back to the light side....

however, d/ling that universal AMD clock reader, says my comp's a "3700+"

what are you clocked at?

 

[infinite012]

That 800MHz and 400MHz thing is a real joke now. Intel uses 800MHz just to stick with their RDRAM crappity and their "quad-pumped" CPU bus. It's actually still the same thing as the AMD 400MHz because AMD uses a DDR speed instead.

400MHz bus for AMD = 200MHz FSB
800MHz bus for Intel = 200MHz FSB

Therefore, 400 = 800

 

[Soulkeeper]

differen't bandwidths tho
beings one is quad pumped and the other is dual pumped

i just got me a 2500+

but yeah if you could clock an athlon to 2.8ghz it would beat any stock P4 in gaming benchs even if the fsb was like 266

 

[sman789]

Originally posted by: infinite012
That 800MHz and 400MHz thing is a real joke now. Intel uses 800MHz just to stick with their RDRAM crappity and their "quad-pumped" CPU bus. It's actually still the same thing as the AMD 400MHz because AMD uses a DDR speed instead.

400MHz bus for AMD = 200MHz FSB
800MHz bus for Intel = 200MHz FSB

Therefore, 400 = 800

huh, no more RDram with the p4cs

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: sman789

Originally posted by: infinite012
That 800MHz and 400MHz thing is a real joke now. Intel uses 800MHz just to stick with their RDRAM crappity and their "quad-pumped" CPU bus. It's actually still the same thing as the AMD 400MHz because AMD uses a DDR speed instead.

400MHz bus for AMD = 200MHz FSB
800MHz bus for Intel = 200MHz FSB

Therefore, 400 = 800

huh, no more RDram with the p4cs

It'll be back, dont worry.

 

[sman789]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: sman789

Originally posted by: infinite012
That 800MHz and 400MHz thing is a real joke now. Intel uses 800MHz just to stick with their RDRAM crappity and their "quad-pumped" CPU bus. It's actually still the same thing as the AMD 400MHz because AMD uses a DDR speed instead.

400MHz bus for AMD = 200MHz FSB
800MHz bus for Intel = 200MHz FSB

Therefore, 400 = 800

huh, no more RDram with the p4cs

It'll be back, dont worry.

well not with the 875/65 chipsets

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: stevejst
3DMark2001SE:
Radeon 8500 with Barton 2500+ @ 3200+ ... 9400+
Radeon 8500 with Intel 2.4C @ 3.2 GHz ... 11,000+

And I am talking about the same card literally.

That says it all. Intel is on top at this time.

Steve what FSB? If your running a 250 FSB (1000 qdr) then it makes a difference.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: AkumaX

Originally posted by: stevejst
3DMark2001SE:
Radeon 8500 with Barton 2500+ @ 3200+ ... 9400+
Radeon 8500 with Intel 2.4C @ 3.2 GHz ... 11,000+

And I am talking about the same card literally.

That says it all. Intel is on top at this time.

damn i want one... must resist going back to the light side....

however, d/ling that universal AMD clock reader, says my comp's a "3700+"

Also, interested what clock speeed...

 

[AkumaX]

Originally posted by: AkumaX

Originally posted by: stevejst
3DMark2001SE:
Radeon 8500 with Barton 2500+ @ 3200+ ... 9400+
Radeon 8500 with Intel 2.4C @ 3.2 GHz ... 11,000+

And I am talking about the same card literally.

That says it all. Intel is on top at this time.

damn i want one... must resist going back to the light side....

however, d/ling that universal AMD clock reader, says my comp's a "3700+"

right now, 10.5 x 228 = 2394 = "~3700+"

i wanna see benchies w/ the same vid card

 

[Corporate Thug]

must be a barton right?

 

[McArra]

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: eqmassa
I?m designing a new system for high-end gaming, and my first decision needs to be in regards to a processor. Currently, Pentium?s top processor is running on an 800mhz FSB, whereas AMD?s are at 400mhz (with the very popular Barton 2500+ at 333mhz). As for pricing, one case would be that it?s $166 for P4 2.4GHz at 800mhz compared to $160 for an Athlon 2.8GHz at 400mhz.

Correct me if I?m wrong, but assuming that one has a high-end motherboard that can handle such a powerful FSB, GPU, etc., wouldn?t the aforementioned P4 outperform the Athlon? Thus, wouldn?t it be a better buy in the long-run to go with the P4? AMD is certainly the value buy in most cases, but an 800mhz FSB seems to dwarf a 400mhz one.

there is no such thing as a 2.8 ghz athlon at 400 mhz, maybe you are thinking of a 2800+ and it too is 333 fsb. the 3000+ and the 3200+ are the only amd cpus with 400 mhz fsb. either way, if you have the money, i recommend the 2.4C esp. if you are gonna overclock, since it'll prolly get you to 3+GHz

The only 400Mhz FSB Athlon (by default) is the 3200+. The 3000+ is 166*12,5 , 333Mhz FSB.