P4 EE too expensive

[opuman0]

Does anyone have an idea as to when the P4 3.2 EE will drop in price to less than 400 USD? I would luv to get one and overclock it! But 1000 USD is too much for my budget.

 

[SynthDude2001]

It will most likely never drop in price; it is Intel's "flagship" (read: ridiculously overpriced for not much more performance) desktop CPU. If you want to buy a CPU for $400, then buy a CPU that costs $400. You'll save lots of money and not really miss out on that much performance (although I still think even $400 is a lot for a CPU).

Oh, and if there ever were to come a point at which the EE would be so "cheap" (1/2 of its current price or less), it would be so outdated you wouldn't want it anymore.

In summary....don't waste your money.

 

[Bateluer]

Intel should bring the EE down to a price on par with the A64FX chips. 1000 for a CPU, they can kiss my ass.

 

[Freeder]

"1000 for a CPU, they can kiss my ass."
Hear Hear

 

[effee]

Why go with Intel when you can get the same performance if not better with AMD for less price?

 

[DrMrLordX]

The EE, like the FX line of CPUs, is billed as an "enthusiast part". I don't know about Intel's strategy with this cpu, but it is likely that supplies of it will be kept low in order to prevent it from ever becoming really cheap. Expect the same from FX CPUs.

As to whether or not it's worth the money, eh, make up your own mind. There are plenty of benchmarks available for the EE on Anandtech and elsewhere. It's kind of a dead-horse that's been beaten to death on this forum.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

its probably going to be similar to the 5950U and 9800XT where even though the parts are outperformed by 2x they still are being sold for $300 instead of $200 as they should be.

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

it will never be worth it cause the amd 64 3200 and 3400 will always be less and perform better

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: effee
Why go with Intel when you can get the same performance if not better with AMD for less price?

If everyone used that logic intel would no longer be in business. It's called brand loyalty, and for some reason intel has loads of it.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: effee
Why go with Intel when you can get the same performance if not better with AMD for less price?

If everyone used that logic intel would no longer be in business. It's called brand loyalty, and for some reason intel has loads of it.

:thumbsup:

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: effee
Why go with Intel when you can get the same performance if not better with AMD for less price?

If everyone used that logic intel would no longer be in business. It's called brand loyalty, and for some reason intel has loads of it.

well, and perhaps more importantly, name recognition.. while there are ceratinly those who make an informed and conscious decision to purchase the intel, many ppl buy intel simply because they don't know any better - or that's the only thing available on dell.com

 

[imported_eGoCeNTRoNiX]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: effee
Why go with Intel when you can get the same performance if not better with AMD for less price?

If everyone used that logic intel would no longer be in business. It's called brand loyalty, and for some reason intel has loads of it.

Yes, the above is very true, and I still don't know how they've managed to keep such a loyal following even though their CPUs are so much more expensive that AMD.. I used to like Intel and strayed away from AMD when they first came out. Then, when I started building more computers for myself and others and saw the difference in price I gave one a shot. Got an XP1800+ for about $75 and was impressed. It outperformed similar Intel chips I had at the time, I've been an AMD man ever since.

eGo

 

[MegaWorks]

Forget intel go with AMD!

 

[CaiNaM]

well, there really isn't a large price disparity between the latest p4 and athlon64 chips, with the exception of the EE, which i consider costs a ridiculous amount anyway..

 

[caz67]

With all flagship components..They are very expensive, but hey if you got the money go for it..I love mine, and have never had any issues at all.

 

[Machine350]

Originally posted by: eGoCeNTRoNiX

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: effee
Why go with Intel when you can get the same performance if not better with AMD for less price?

Then, when I started building more computers for myself and others and saw the difference in price I gave one a shot. Got an XP1800+ for about $75 and was impressed. It outperformed similar Intel chips I had at the time, I've been an AMD man ever since.

eGo

I've been an AMD man for years now, you just get so much more bang for the buck.

 

[Adn4n]

They will never drop in price. Since it's unlocked, small shops could overclock them and sell them as a higher clock speed cpu. Intel and Amd do not want this. Thus, it'll be off the shelves before it drops in price considerably.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Machine350

Originally posted by: eGoCeNTRoNiX

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: effee
Why go with Intel when you can get the same performance if not better with AMD for less price?

Then, when I started building more computers for myself and others and saw the difference in price I gave one a shot. Got an XP1800+ for about $75 and was impressed. It outperformed similar Intel chips I had at the time, I've been an AMD man ever since.

eGo

I've been an AMD man for years now, you just get so much more bang for the buck.

I'm not so sure nowerdays. About even today, even at the low end now with new deleron.

Sure there are some outstanding AMD values with overclcokers like the $77-$95 mobile XP which nothing intel has can touch, or the $135 2800 nothing can touch p/p wise @2500. But in general there is partity.

 

[Soulkeeper]

millionaires are prob buying them by the dozen and laughing at this thread
hahaha

 

[meksta]

what do you expect...

Intel basically made this chip only for reviewer so it'll pull out more respectably against the A64s.

Did you really expect them to sell these in bulk?

 

[NewBlackDak]

Originally posted by: Soulkeeper
millionaires are prob buying them by the dozen and laughing at this thread
hahaha

Doubt it. Millionaires didn't get rich by throwing their money away on silly things.


Anywho. It seems to be weird how the ignorant will pay in the computer world. I was charging $80/hour for house calls. This is the same as most of the local shops charge if you bring your machine in. I had very little business, so I decided to up it to $120/hour to make it worth my while. It blew up after that, and I couldn't handle the load anymore(since I was only doing in my spare time).

It also seems this way when I tell someone i'll build a machine for them. I tell someone $700 for a complete basic machine, and they don't want it. I tell the next $1000 for the exact same machine, and they jump on it.

 

[Traveler]

I have been looking for a 800FSB P4 w/ 1mb cache.
It seems hard to look for one in lower price for 478 board.

I saw alot of intel CPU for 775 board, but not for 478.

What is the deal with this 775 specification?

 

[itachi]

Originally posted by: Traveler
I have been looking for a 800FSB P4 w/ 1mb cache.
It seems hard to look for one in lower price for 478 board.

I saw alot of intel CPU for 775 board, but not for 478.

What is the deal with this 775 specification?

all the pentium 4 x.xE processors have 1mb l2 and are socket 478.

anyways.. on topic.. i doubt anyone who gets processors like the ee or athlon fx are fully trying to get them for the extra performance.. most of the time it's probably just people who got the money and want something that most people can't have. however, i won't deny that there are some people out there that actually get them for the performance.

people who just pop up in threads like this just to say "go amd!", "amd outperforms intel!", or "amd is cheaper and better than intel!" are really starting to get on my nerves.. seriously, 90% of the people here already know all that crap that you're preaching.. now if the person wanted advice or seemed like they did.. then at the very least say something more than "yay amd is better than intel yay yay yay!" if you're gonna give your opinion, state your reason and present proof.. if you don't think it's necessary, then you opening your mouth isn't necessary either.

If everyone used that logic intel would no longer be in business. It's called brand loyalty, and for some reason intel has loads of it.

well said. from the 486 to the p4 i've stuck with intel. too bad i got me an athlon 64 now ..

on a last note.. if you wanna get the top of the line intel/amd.. wait for the dual-cores to come out. i don't know how the athlon will do.. but the intel is gonna be sick. the 1.7ghz dothan (166fsb) outperforms or keeps up with the athlon 64 2800+ (1.8ghz 200mem).. for the dual-core, both of them will be dual-channel (guessing for intel) and i don't have much doubt that the intel will run at 200-233 fsb. since the dothan is running at a speed thats significantly slower than the p4, it won't support hyper-threading.. but it'll give amd one hell of a run.

athlon 64 vs dothan benchmark
http://www.gamepc.com/labs/vie...p?id=dothan&page=1

 

[Blain]

Originally posted by: opuman0
Does anyone have an idea as to when the P4 3.2 EE will drop in price to less than 400 USD? I would luv to get one and overclock it! But 1000 USD is too much for my budget.

Yes, they will eventually.

Originally posted by: Adn4n
They will never drop in price. Since it's unlocked, small shops could overclock them and sell them as a higher clock speed cpu. Intel and Amd do not want this. Thus, it'll be off the shelves before it drops in price considerably.

Where have you read that the "EE's" are unlocked?

 

[FelixDeCat]

They arent unlocked, but some are available for reviews or on Ebay occasionally.