P4 or 939 A64?

[Jumpem]

I've been out of the loop for months. Can someone catch me up on Intel's new labeling scheme, motherboards, and such?

 

[Mik3y]

socket 939 a64. amd is the better overall performer, and intel does not own amd at encoding anymore.

 

[Lithan]

Intels switched to a number scheme not unlike opterons for their new socket LGA775. (510,520,530, etc). There is an overclocking lock at 15% with the new chipsets (915 and 925 iirc), but most manufacturers have come up with a way around it. So far, nothing good in my opinion. PCI-E is currently useless, and ddr2 performs poorly (although ocz supposedly has some 3.0-2-2-5 DDR2 in the works). Until I see some performance3 advantage with 775, I recommend 478 for intel users.

 

[Mik3y]

Originally posted by: Lithan
Intels switched to a number scheme not unlike opterons for their new socket LGA775. (510,520,530, etc). There is an overclocking lock at 15% with the new chipsets (915 and 925 iirc), but most manufacturers have come up with a way around it. So far, nothing good in my opinion. PCI-E is currently useless, and ddr2 performs poorly (although ocz supposedly has some 3.0-2-2-5 DDR2 in the works). Until I see some performance3 advantage with 775, I recommend 478 for intel users.

the overclocking lock is actually at 10%.

 

[Shimmishim]

either way mobo manufacturers have found a way around it...

and i think that lga775 is promising especially with the new ddr2 3-2-2-8 timing ram that ocz is planning on releasing soon...

 

[kamranziadar]

Yup 478Pins Pentiums are good or you can go for Northwood they are also very good.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Shimmishim
either way mobo manufacturers have found a way around it...

and i think that lga775 is promising especially with the new ddr2 3-2-2-8 timing ram that ocz is planning on releasing soon...

Intel may sneek up on AMD's partners incompitance (no PCIe, 25 chipsets) and AMD's throwing a myrid of confusing only to be dated socket types out there.

I'm watching intel overclockers with anticipation...and for DDR2 to prices fall.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Mik3y
socket 939 a64. amd is the better overall performer, and intel does not own amd at encoding anymore.

Yes, they even cancelled the 4 ghz chip, so it looks like they have nothing coming out for quite a while. Why would anyone go that way ?

 

[Vee]

Right now, I wouldn't spend money on anything other than AMD64, socket 754 and 939 for a private machine.

PCI-E is currently a non-issue and will remain so for a very long time.
DDR2 is slow and expensive and there's a chance it will never be relevant outside Intel. DDR3 is what is desirable after DDR.

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: Markfw900Yes, they even cancelled the 4 ghz chip, so it looks like they have nothing coming out for quite a while. Why would anyone go that way ?

I had heard that, so I must not be too lost.

 

[Jumpem]

Are there any good articles on the new DDR2/P4's vs. Socket 939 A64? I've looked through Anand's articles and haven't found quite what I am looking for.

 

[Vee]

Originally posted by: Jumpem
Are there any good articles on the new DDR2/P4's vs. Socket 939 A64? I've looked through Anand's articles and haven't found quite what I am looking for.

:laugh: Step1: Check out their DDR P4 vs. DDR2 P4 article.
Step2: check out their DDR P4 vs. DDR A64 articles.
I think you'll find the logic fairly linear. :laugh:

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: Vee
:laugh: Step1: Check out their DDR P4 vs. DDR2 P4 article.
Step2: check out their DDR P4 vs. DDR A64 articles.
I think you'll find the logic fairly linear. :laugh:

:Q

Can you post links to the specific articles? I was diggint through the cpu, motherboard, and memory sections earlier. I'm not sure what ones you are referring to, or what section they are in. thanks!

 

[Vee]

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: Vee
:laugh: Step1: Check out their DDR P4 vs. DDR2 P4 article.
Step2: check out their DDR P4 vs. DDR A64 articles.
I think you'll find the logic fairly linear. :laugh:

:Q

Can you post links to the specific articles? I was diggint through the cpu, motherboard, and memory sections earlier. I'm not sure what ones you are referring to, or what section they are in. thanks!

Ok, I just had some dim recollections of having read something like that, but figured that since I'm about to go senile, you could put in the elbow grease yourself. But, ok I made the effort:

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...ts/showdoc.aspx?i=2088

 

[effee]

A64 939 without a doubt.

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: VeeOk, I just had some dim recollections of having read something like that, but figured that since I'm about to go senile, you could put in the elbow grease yourself. But, ok I made the effort:

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...ts/showdoc.aspx?i=2088

Thanks.

 

[carlosd]

A64 939, the 3000+ overclocks very well on air. For less than U$200 it will beat higher priced P4's.

 

[assemblage]

Originally posted by: carlosd
A64 939, the 3000+ overclocks very well on air. For less than U$200 it will beat higher priced P4's.

I'd get that or the 3200+, but I'm going to wait on PCI-e support and pickup a X700 or a 6600GT

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: assemblage

Originally posted by: carlosd
A64 939, the 3000+ overclocks very well on air. For less than U$200 it will beat higher priced P4's.

I'd get that or the 3200+, but I'm going to wait on PCI-e support and pickup a X700 or a 6600GT

PCI-E is not faster than AGP at this time (will it ever ???) So why wait ??

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: assemblage

Originally posted by: carlosd
A64 939, the 3000+ overclocks very well on air. For less than U$200 it will beat higher priced P4's.

I'd get that or the 3200+, but I'm going to wait on PCI-e support and pickup a X700 or a 6600GT

PCI-E is not faster than AGP at this time (will it ever ???) So why wait ??

SLI

 

[Mik3y]

lol, but unless a person is looking to get sli, why get pci-e anyways?

 

[ResiduaL]

So when is DDR3 suppose to come into cycle?
I would assume not for awhile...?

Of course, we all know what assuming leads to.

But, yeah...

 

[Mik3y]

Originally posted by: ResiduaL
So when is DDR3 suppose to come into cycle?
I would assume not for awhile...?

Of course, we all know what assuming leads to.

But, yeah...

ddr3 is extremely expensive compared to ddr or ddr2, and i doubt that ddr3 will become mainstream for a long time.

 

[Markfw]

SLI.............

Like I am going to spend $1000 on 2 6800 Ultra SLI cards instead of the $400 I spent on my x800pro. Maybe 2 years from now or more, but not anytime soon.