P4 Overheating

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GreatBarracuda

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If I were in your position, I would update my bios and chipset drivers, apply some Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste, make sure the heatsink/fan is seated properly and then use Motherboard Monitor to monitor the temps.

Your temps are very high. I usually get around 34C idle with my 3.0GHz Northwood at stock with AS5.
 

Markfw

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Originally posted by: GreatBarracuda
If I were in your position, I would update my bios and chipset drivers, apply some Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste, make sure the heatsink/fan is seated properly and then use Motherboard Monitor to monitor the temps.

Your temps are very high. I usually get around 34C idle with my 3.0GHz Northwood at stock with AS5.

You have a northwood at 3.0 He has a Preshot at 3.4 BIG difference, as the preshot is the hottest running processor out there right now.
 

iversonyin

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the BIOS set a certain formula for calculating the temp. on the CPU. as many mentioned, Abit mobo seem to read the CPU temp on the high end.

My P4 1.7 Willamette run at 50s C when underload. my suggestion is that you get a HSF. my friend had the similar problem with his 3.0 prescott. he got a new fan for about $20, now its running about 10 celeus lower.
 

steveox

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I have a p4 3.2 prescott with the zalman al-cu and it's running at 46-48 idle and like 52-54 under load.
 

nick1985

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can i ask why you didnt consider the athlon64? i cringe at the thought of shelling all that money out for that CPU and DDR2 memory...ugh.
 

LTC8K6

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The thought of an Athlon64.....ugh!

Why can't people purchase what the hell they want?

DDR2 appears to really crank up well, btw.
 

Markfw

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Originally posted by: LTC8K6
The thought of an Athlon64.....ugh!

Why can't people purchase what the hell they want?

DDR2 appears to really crank up well, btw.
They can buy whatever they want, but when they are upset that their new CPU runs so hot, it is NOT out of reason to suggest that they consider something that runs faster, cooler and is cheaper than what they purchased. Whats the ugh ! They rule right now in every benchmark site out there.

 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: LTC8K6
The thought of an Athlon64.....ugh!

yeah, i know what you mean! i mean, why would i pay less money for something that peforms betters...:roll: what a waste!
 

LTC8K6

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Yeah, why would anyone pay more for anything that performs about the same as a cheaper version? Surely (not shirley) they'd buy the cheaper item? Anyone with any sense would buy the lower priced item, wouldn't they?

Hmmmm....doesn't seem to be working out that way as I look around me at various items people have purchased. People don't seem to mind paying a premium price for whatever reason they have in their mind.

I think I'll ask all of these millions of people why they didn't make the thriftier purchase.

Why oh why, I just can't understand....

Then I'll try to tell them how wrong they are and how much better it would be if they'd only bought X instead of Y.

Nah, they may not like that. They may know very well what they're doing and take my "advice" the wrong way.....
 

LTC8K6

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P.S., try to catch the smilies next time.

I am beginning to think they should just remove them since no one pays any attention.....
 

LTC8K6

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They rule right now in every benchmark site out there.

I don't play benchmarks. I don't encode 'em either.

To quote many an Anandtecher. :beer:
 

kumo

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well i was about to return my p4 prescott for an athlon 64 or return it in exchange the same thing... but i really don't want to go through the hassel of getting a new cpu and motherboard and i think it is not a defective cpu and that any prescott would run that hot in my system i have concluded that it is most likely just my abit motherboard giving too high of temperature readings and that i will just wait and when thermalright comes out with a lga775 heat sink i will go purchase that and hopefully be alot cooler

does anybody have any of these heatsinks to comment on?
http://www.coolerguys.com/sockettlga775.html
 

Antos

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Ignore the teenage fanboys; all they do is crap others' threads.

You did say that the heatsink was hot to the touch--THAT is actually -good-...it means that the heat is being transferred to the heatsink.

I think the problem here is, the heat is not being REMOVED from the heatsink.
You said the CPU fan is running; are you sure it's spinning at full RPM ? Can you tell how much warm air it's moving? If it's only spinning at 1500 rpm or so, that's definitely not enough. I wonder if the fan (or the cpu's fan header) is defective? Intel would never release a setup that would overheat at stock...

I should also ask you, what voltage is the chip getting? even if it is at default, still check that. (Make sure the chip isn't getting rediculously high voltages like 1.55 ......)

As far as cooling, I'm not sure, but I would contact Thermalright and see if their XP-90 will fit on your motherboard (might require some sort of adapter).. XP-90 and a 92mm Tornado fan plus some Arctic Silver 5 is pretty much the best thing you can get.

(XP-120 is bigger, but due to the fan being larger, even a Delta, actually doesn't perform quite as well as an XP90 with a tornado)--this may be in part due to larger fans having a larger deadzone...)
 

kumo

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ok i finally got a thermalright xp-90 and my cpu temperature is down to about 48 idle and 62 under full load which i think is acceptable well just wanted to let you guys know...
xp-90 is friggen huge it's awsome
thermalright retention brackets are a pain to install (it says "EASE OF INSTALLATION STEP ONE PUT BACKPLATE ON BACK OF YOUR MOTHERBOARD" or in other words disconnect everything on your computer and unscrew almost everything so you can pull your motherboard out
 

Dustswirl

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There's one detail that many don't pay attention to:
The space between the mobo and the case's wall is a real heat trap! so if you don't have good airflow in the case and even if you open the side facing the mobo+cpu+all the gang, there's still heat beeing trapped behind the mobo and the opposite side. this "helps" the cpu, among other components, to gain more C.
 
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