P4P800 and IS7

[faye]

Hi, comparing these two motherboard: Asus P4P800 and ABIT IS7 . are they almost the same?

which one is better, u think?

what i need is a Pentium 4 based, running 512mb ram(ddr 400), and more

thanks

 

[cmdrdredd]

Is7 is a better value

 

[faye]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Is7 is a better value

i can afford either of the motherboard... will P4P800 perform better in games and browsing?

 

[faye]

and what about IS7 and IC7, i know they use different chipset. i865 and i875P, but ... amm,.., what is the difference anyways.?

 

[Fallengod]

Yeah the asus board is a little faster, not that it will make much of a difference. Asus has better features also. P4P800 has ide raid, which IS7 doesnt. P4P800 has Gigabit lan which IS7 is not supposed to, but ive heard that some do? Other than that, there is about a $40 price difference. So if you want highest possible performance and a few other features for $40 go with asus. Or IS7-G maybe? It basically has more Sata Support along with Gigabit lan and is about $30 more than IS7. About same price as P4P800.

 

[faye]

i am not sure, i've checked the abit website, it said it ihas something like a SATA RAID, is it what u mean Ide raid?

there are so many chipset of the motherboard, which one is better?

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: faye
i am not sure, i've checked the abit website, it said it ihas something like a SATA RAID, is it what u mean Ide raid?

there are so many chipset of the motherboard, which one is better?

You are right,No IDE raid, just Serial ata RAID 0 only.

The P4P800 is a better board,I am using one now. great mobo.

 

[Corporate Thug]

IS7 is better

 

[Budman]

Asus P4P800 is better.

 

[Corporate Thug]

from the anandtech review:

In the end however, after countless hours of testing and much debate, we finally decided to give our Editors Choice Gold Award for best overall Pentium 4 motherboard to the ABIT IS7.

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: shady06
from the anandtech review:

In the end however, after countless hours of testing and much debate, we finally decided to give our Editors Choice Gold Award for best overall Pentium 4 motherboard to the ABIT IS7.

I couldnt care less about a review,I am speaking because I OWN the board,do you own a IS7 ?

 

[Slammy1]

I own a P4P800, and I say IS7-G. Asus tech support is beyond bad, and for a technology company it's inexcusable. I thinnk IDE RAID is a bad idea anyway from what I've read. Don't pay attention to the people who say their bord is the best. Truth is, 865 and 875 boards are generally all head and shoulders above everything else they should feel that way. Pay attention to the people who own the board that tell you not to buy it (i.e. me )

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: Slammy1
I own a P4P800, and I say IS7-G. Asus tech support is beyond bad, and for a technology company it's inexcusable. I thinnk IDE RAID is a bad idea anyway from what I've read. Don't pay attention to the people who say their bord is the best. Truth is, 865 and 875 boards are generally all head and shoulders above everything else they should feel that way. Pay attention to the people who own the board that tell you not to buy it (i.e. me )

for the second time,it doesnt have IDE raid,it has SERIAL ATA RAID.

 

[Slammy1]

Originally posted by: Budman
for the second time,it doesnt have IDE raid,it has SERIAL ATA RAID.

P4P800D Specs

"IDE RAID
The VIA IDE-RAID controller supports two-channel ATA 133, enabling users to build Maximum 4 ATA-133 hard disk as an RAID0, 1 , 0+1 , JBOD array. And the graphical user interface provides an easy way to configure and manage disk drives or disk arrays connected."

???

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: Slammy1

Originally posted by: Budman
for the second time,it doesnt have IDE raid,it has SERIAL ATA RAID.

P4P800D Specs

"IDE RAID
The VIA IDE-RAID controller supports two-channel ATA 133, enabling users to build Maximum 4 ATA-133 hard disk as an RAID0, 1 , 0+1 , JBOD array. And the graphical user interface provides an easy way to configure and manage disk drives or disk arrays connected."

???

That's the Deluxe,the plain P4P800 doesnt have IDE raid.

http://www.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800/overview.htm

ICH5R with Integrated SATA and RAID 0
Intel is the world?s first chipset maker to integrate Serial ATA (SATA) and RAID 0 functions into the South Bridge. The latest ICH5R chipset now delivers 150MB/s fast data transfer (SATA) and striping performance (RAID 0) to enhance computing efficiency. Note:Microsoft WinXP only.

He asked for the P4P800 not the P4P800 Deluxe.

 

[Slammy1]

Originally posted by: Budman

Originally posted by: faye
i am not sure, i've checked the abit website, it said it ihas something like a SATA RAID, is it what u mean Ide raid?

there are so many chipset of the motherboard, which one is better?

You are right,No IDE raid, just Serial ata RAID 0 only.

The P4P800 is a better board,I am using one now. great mobo.

Well, here you're saying the Abit board doesn't have IDE RAID, which I know. Later you say "for the second time, it doesn't have IDE RAID when I'm talking about the P4P800D. Now, granted you've won a victory in semantics; however he said price not an issue so I would think the comparison is between the P4P800D and the IS7-G. I would go for the IS7-G. I'm glad you like your P4P800... I wish I was happy with my P4P800-D. Let's say, if you get a bug free board the Asus is better. I think it's a statement we can both agree upon. My point is, God help you if you do have a problem; He's your only hope. Well, maybe the RMA fairy, my deity of choice.

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: Slammy1

Originally posted by: Budman

Originally posted by: faye
i am not sure, i've checked the abit website, it said it ihas something like a SATA RAID, is it what u mean Ide raid?

there are so many chipset of the motherboard, which one is better?

You are right,No IDE raid, just Serial ata RAID 0 only.

The P4P800 is a better board,I am using one now. great mobo.

Well, here you're saying the Abit board doesn't have IDE RAID, which I know. Later you say "for the second time, it doesn't have IDE RAID when I'm talking about the P4P800D. Now, granted you've won a victory in semantics; however he said price not an issue so I would think the comparison is between the P4P800D and the IS7-G. I would go for the IS7-G. I'm glad you like your P4P800... I wish I was happy with my P4P800-D. Let's say, if you get a bug free board the Asus is better. I think it's a statement we can both agree upon. My point is, God help you if you do have a problem; He's your only hope. Well, maybe the RMA fairy, my deity of choice.

I never said the Abit didnt have ide raid,As I said before I own the P4P800 & cant say what the Abit has or doesnt have because I dont own one.

It suck that you have problems with yours man,I wish you all the best of luck with your Abit board. :gift:

 

[Slammy1]

I'm kinda leaning toward the MSI board actually. I've been an Asus fan for a long time now, shattered fanboy-dom hurts. D:

EDIT Before Asus, I was just like everyone else with computers. Asus introduced me to the idea of power computing, the greatest video game of all time. I learned computers on Asus, it's a real drag their CS has taken such a nose dive. The last time I contacted them, they got back to me the next day to give me a correct answer. This time, 3 weeks to tell me to call a long distance number. And the place I called is only open while I'm at work, they even stop taking phone calls early if I get off from work at a reasonable hour. They won't respond to e-mail saying I need a different avenue of tech support. I once said I'll never own anything but Asus, now I don't feel that way at all.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Budman

Originally posted by: shady06
from the anandtech review:

In the end however, after countless hours of testing and much debate, we finally decided to give our Editors Choice Gold Award for best overall Pentium 4 motherboard to the ABIT IS7.

I couldnt care less about a review,I am speaking because I OWN the board,do you own a IS7 ?

the way i see it, the best to judge which is better is to own both boards so you yourself can compare it equally. it is hard to come to the conclusion that one is better than the other without owning both. since it is rather impractical to buy both boards, i go with what a credible review says (like anandtech)

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: Slammy1
I'm kinda leaning toward the MSI board actually. I've been an Asus fan for a long time now, shattered fanboy-dom hurts. D:

DO NOT !! I REPEAT DO NOT!!! got for a MSI 865/875 mobo,these are the worse ones you could buy.

I had a 865p2Neo2 that gave me nothing but problems,after 3 weeks I had enough & sold it,as a loss I might add but I was glad to see it go.

After I bought this P4P800 and it's like night and day, I love my Asus.

You think you dont like Asus,wait if you get a MSI board :disgust:.

do a few serches here & you'll see what I mean about msi springdales/canterwoods being total crap.

 

[Budman]

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: Budman

Originally posted by: shady06
from the anandtech review:

In the end however, after countless hours of testing and much debate, we finally decided to give our Editors Choice Gold Award for best overall Pentium 4 motherboard to the ABIT IS7.

I couldnt care less about a review,I am speaking because I OWN the board,do you own a IS7 ?

the way i see it, the best to judge which is better is to own both boards so you yourself can compare it equally. it is hard to come to the conclusion that one is better than the other without owning both. since it is rather impractical to buy both boards, i go with what a credible review says (like anandtech)

Artin, I used to be that way too myself & trusted the reviews.

But now I take reviews with a grain of salt & just suggestions,I now look in forums & read what other user's experiences are and then make my descision.

A few times I got a mobo because it had great review & got really screwed.

Take for example the MSI springdales/canterwood reviews, almost every review said it was a great board bla bla , even AT said it was a good mobo.

In the end a lot of people have problems with them & a whole bunch of them ended up with dead boards after abios flash,I had a 865 MSI board & it was hell.

 

[Slammy1]

Have you read THG's review? They apparantly fixed a lot of the memory problems in the newer BIOS. You're not the first to say that about MSI, kinda shys me away. Maybe the IS7-G is the best for me. I just wish Asus had treated me with some dignity, now it's just a matter of principle.

THG 24 MoBo Roundup

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Budman

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: Budman

Originally posted by: shady06
from the anandtech review:

In the end however, after countless hours of testing and much debate, we finally decided to give our Editors Choice Gold Award for best overall Pentium 4 motherboard to the ABIT IS7.

I couldnt care less about a review,I am speaking because I OWN the board,do you own a IS7 ?

the way i see it, the best to judge which is better is to own both boards so you yourself can compare it equally. it is hard to come to the conclusion that one is better than the other without owning both. since it is rather impractical to buy both boards, i go with what a credible review says (like anandtech)

Artin, I used to be that way too myself & trusted the reviews.

But now I take reviews with a grain of salt & just suggestions,I now look in forums & read what other user's experiences are and then make my descision.

A few times I got a mobo because it had great review & got really screwed.

Take for example the MSI springdales/canterwood reviews, almost every review said it was a great board bla bla , even AT said it was a good mobo.

In the end a lot of people have problems with them & a whole bunch of them ended up with dead boards after abios flash,I had a 865 MSI board & it was hell.

i've never thought of that prolly because i have never been in that situation. i'm sure your right since you have more experiance with it than i do

 

[D3xx]

Locally the plain IS7, plain P4P800, and plain IC7 are about the same price.
In terms of maximum stable overclock, which would be best?

 

[faye]

wooh wooh, i mean either of the motherboard (P4P800 and IS7, not a step beyond)

Some people say this better, some people say that better. Myself haven't own any of Asus board before. can't tell which brand is better. Even i am having an ABIT be6, still can't which is better.

now i know IDE raid is differ from Sata Raid. I have a WD800JB (8mb cache, 80GB), does any of these motherboard take advantage of the harddrive i am using? or i need to buy another harddrive? the harddrive is ATA100, but one or both drive has 2xSata150, does that mean my harddrive is the bottleneck?