P4S533 Problems (cont)

[Lyzar]

I have read the other threads about the problems others are seeing with this board and thought I would add my own troubles in.

First here is a link to the previous thread:
P4S533 Problems

Now here's where I'm at. I ordered a Maxtop Case Model 147 CSX with 350w power supply, Pentium 4 1.6a, Asus P4S533, Mushkin PC3300 DDR ram, Visiontek GeForce 2 GTS-V, and Maxtor 40gig 7200rpm ATA 133 hard drive all from newegg except the motherboard which I had to go with another vendor since newegg isn't stocking it yet.

All the parts arrived the same day and I carefully read the Asus manual front to back and then began putting the system together. I have put together other systems before but this is my first P4. I hooked up all 3 power connectors on the board - I was confused like many other people evidently sounds like no one has the definitive word on how it should be but sounds like the square 4 prong and the 20pin standard ATX are the ones to go with. When I first hooked up the power to the power supply and turned the switch on the power supply to on nothing happened (as expected). Then I pressed the power on button on the case and the only thing that happened was the onboard LED in the middle of the motherboard came on and the onboard ethernet card light came on. No fans come on no beep codes no error voice messages nothing.

Now my immediate assumption was that I had a crappy power supply - the case was only 49.00 and the reviews from other buyers at newegg said that some of them had problems getting their systems to post with that power supply. So I went to Best Buy and bought an Antec 350w dual fan power supply. I brought it home thinking that would magically fix my woes. The only thing it changed was that the onboard LED stayed on longer after turning the power back off. Which brings me to one thing I've noticed - the only way to turn it on and off is pulling the cord or flipping the switch on the power supply. Only that very first time did it use the power switch to get power. Now I assumed that the bios was keeping the state of on/off and so I cleared the bios and pulled the little battery off the board trying to reset it but nothing works - if the switch on the power supply is on the LED is on.

From there I tried some different things like only having essential devices plugged up and such as that. I finally got down to putting the motherboard on a piece of card board unplugging everything and reseating the ram, processor, and video card. I hooked up just the 4 pin square power and the 20 pin power, the case speaker, and put in a video card that I knew worked from this computer GeForce 3 TI200. No drives plugged up nothing turned on the power and got the same result. I then thought well I'll pull everything out and see if it will atleast beep at me. So I unplugged the power took out the memory, processor, video so that all I had was a mother board plugged up to power and case speaker and turned on the power. No beeps no nothing same result as always - stupid on board LED shining bright at me.

I don't have another P4 system to test the Ram or the processor. I know the video card is good. The processor is brand new retail version and the Ram is Mushkin and it is what the folks at Motherboards.org recommended. But I'm assuming it has to be motherboard/processor/ or ram.

Any body got any suggestions for me? I just don't understand why I'm getting no beep codes or anything. Could my 350w power supply still be to wimpy? I'm at wits end and just really really frustrated. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Lyzar

 

[Barrei]

I don't have that board but have read enough about them to come to the conclusion that with the AsusS533 it seems to be the luck of the draw whether you get one that works or not , some work great no problem and others won't even post , do yourself a favor and return it and get the asus 266 C seems to be a very good board.

 

[ralexand99]

I recenty got the same board about a week ago. I also went out and bought the same power supply from best buy. I had that the same problem when I first plugged in mine. And by the way, I have all three power connections connected. Have you tried holding down the delete key as you power on. If my memory serves me well, and that is a rare, I would try a couple of things.

Double check your power switch and make sure it is properly connect. Don't worry about having it wrong. It wont hurt anything if everything is prperly seated.

and how down the delete key when powering up. Make sure the fan is connected to the right spot. As I recall, there are about 4 different spots. So hopefully, there are not confused.

Other than that, I will take a look at my board when I get home to add more.

Continue to stick with the minimum, I will set up mSN Messenger later with ralexand88 as my handle. I would say about 4:00 Central.

I am hoping to find other who have this board to help tweek it.

 

[Lyzar]

Ok tried the delete key trick but still no go. Also tried hooking it to my other computers case speaker since I wasn't sure the speaker that came with the new case was working. Still no beeps or vocal warnings.

So now I thought I'd post some pictures to describe exactly what I've got set up here to try and make this work - Note you can only see these when my pc is on

The big picture
Another zoomed out view

Ram CPU and how the power is hooked up
This is the only thing at all that happens when I turn on the power - green LED lights up
This is the label on my power supply

If you look at the link above labeled "This is the only thing..." you can see the only thing that happens when I flip the power switch on the back of the power supply. I still don't know why clearing the cmos doesn't change the on/off state to force me to hit the switch on the front of the case to make the green led light up instead of it being on all the time when the power switch on the power supply is on.

Tomorrow I will be calling tech support at Asus or atacom where I bought the motherboard. If that doesn't help much I'll probably get an RMA to send the board back and see if maybe just the board I got is bad. If anyone sees that I did something way wrong in the pictures above let me know call me stupid whatever I won't mind as long as I get this thing running

 

[bknichol]

Just wanted to add to this thread - my system is running fine now w/ the p4s533 EXCEPT on occasion when I get into Win 2K my keyboard is non responsive. My USB trackball works fine but my keyboard is a new Microsoft Internet Keyboard connected via PS2. I tried a different keyboard and the same results occur. If I reboot, life is good. It is random too...anyone else have this?

Thanks,
Brian

 

[Marc]

I wanted to chime in here, as my Asus P4533 is running beautifully. Rock solid! No problems.

Antec 635 case with 350W
P4S533 w/audio and lan
P4 1.6a (currently running at 2133Mz, I have not tried any higher)
ASUS GF3 ti200 V8200 ti200
Samsung PC2700 DDR

 

[Lyzar]

Marc got any tips on how you set yours up - are all three of your power hook ups on the board plugged in?

Did you have any issues at all as you were hooking things up and getting it working?

 

[Lyzar]

Sorry for the multiple empty posts not sure how but it duplicated one of my messages multple time I guess I refreshed the wrong page. Any how I edited them and made them empty - anyone know how to delete them completely?

 

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[Bozo Galora]

I'm beginning to see a pattern here. If you hook up all three power connectors when first getting the board,
you have about a 50-50 chance of frying the mobo, depending on the powersupply you are using.

 

[ProfessorFate]

<< I'm beginning to see a pattern here >>



My system, P4S533, P4 1.6A, 512 MB Samsung 2700DDR is running beautifully at 2133. I only hooked up the large power connector and the square connector by the CPU.

 

[PowerMacG5]

I do not own this board but I know a lot about it. If you have a P4 certified PSU only connect the 20 pin ATX power cord and the 4 pin 12V 4 pin square connector, do not connect the EZ-plug connector. If you do not have a P4 certified PSU only connect the 20 pin ATX power cord, and the rectangular 4 pin power connector that you use for devices like drives. If you connect All three, the 20 pin, 12V 4 pin square connector, and the the rectangular 4 pin power connector, you will fry your motherboard. When you connect all three the motherboard receives too much electricity.

 

[ROJAS]

I have been running for a couple of weeks 1.6a @2.4 stock cpu voltage, and I still have all the 3 power plugs connected.

 

[Marc]

<< Marc got any tips on how you set yours up - are all three of your power hook ups on the board plugged in? >>



Lyzar I just connect the two connectors, I believe the EZConnector is only for those PSU that don't have the 4 pin 12V 4 pin square connector.



<< Did you have any issues at all as you were hooking things up and getting it working? >>



No issues, everything works perfect.

 

[garcher]

Same here, no problems, been running my P4S533 w/1.6a at 150 all weekend with Prime95 w/o an issue
I never hooked up the third power plug, running with standard P4 plugs
Also, the green led is the stand-by power (for suspend to ram, powerup by keypress, etc..) it says on when ever the PS is on.
Make sure your powersupply and reset switch hook ups are correct, the diagram can be misleading.

Gary

 

[Lyzar]

Ok I just got off the phone with Brett from Asus support. Let me clear up the 3 power supply hook ups on the motherboard. He said the third plug up - the one that takes a power cord like a hard drive is optional but will NOT hurt anything on your board. He suggests hooking up all three if you are using a lot of power or if you are having trouble getting your system to post and think it is the power supply he suggested hooking up all 3 hook ups.

Another question he cleared up for me that just wasn't very clear to me in the manual was that to get the onboard vocal warnings you have to have speakers hooked up to the audio out of the sound card - I had never had a computer that did vocal warnings and didn't know whether they come through the case speaker or regular ones.

After telling Brett about all I had tried he suspects it is the motherboard and he has recommended that I RMA it and get a new one so that is what I will be doing today. I will update the thread when I get the new board.

 

[Bozo Galora]

i still have a suspicion that if you hook up all three with a 465w PSU for instance, you fry the DC
switchers on the mobo. Either that or ASUS is making crap quality control now.

 

[DoubleL]

Well I was more than a little worried, I have to build one and after reading all the problems, But anyway I got it today and put it in a case X,ed my fingers as I hit the power button, Booted right up and told me it couldn't read the hard drive and told me to fdisk, That is what I am doing now but all seems fine, Just running a 350 watt power supply, Only used one power to the board, Went in the bios and let it run for about 30 minutes and the CPU was at 34C with the stock heatsink, Took the pad off and laped it and used AS3 now to find something on fine tuning the thing, It has been a while since I have built a Pentium but with all the talk about the 1.6a I have more people wanting one,

 

[dayg]

Well, after a long wait....finally got my Asus P4S533, 1.6aGhz retail CPU, PC2700. Ordered from Newegg. I installed it last night and it runs beautifully! No Problems at all. settings: 2.4Ghz (16 X 150fsb), V1.6

In regard to power, I have Enermax 330W P4 ready. I only use P4 plug (4 pin) and standard ATX Power (20pin). Never even try to use all 3 plugs at the same time. I figured, if 2 plugs is not enough juice, then I'll use the 3rd plug.

I'll be doing more testing and benches tonight for stability.

 

[herbage11]

Good to hear. Cant wait for mine

 

[DoubleL]

Well I am running 1.6@2.1 but I don't care if you could run 1.6@3.0 this is like going back in time after building Athlons, It is a good stable board so far but man it is a slow board, I am starting to wonder about the high clock numbers, It isn't that I don't trust Intel but at 1.6 bench 6600, At 2.1 6800, At 2.6 7000, Now come on, A Dragon+ XP1900 not over clocked 10600

 

[Barrei]

Doublel what benchmark are you referring to?