P5B Deluxe and power cycle at startup?

[spiderhole]

I just put together my P5B Dlx / e6600 machine, and notice there is a short on/off/on cycle when I do a cold boot. The fans spin up for about 1/2 sec, then go off, then the system comes on. Also, Sometime I have to hit the power button TWICE to even get anything to happen.

Using an Antec Truepower Trio 550 with the 8pin power connector.

Thanks,
Mitch

 

[Compellor]

I have this problem as well, but I only need to hit the power button once.

 

[imported_BigTwin]

Yes, it's normal.....what BIOS are you using? using the 8pin vs 4 pin makes your system more stable or at least it does mine..

Originally posted by: spiderhole
I just put together my P5B Dlx / e6600 machine, and notice there is a short on/off/on cycle when I do a cold boot. The fans spin up for about 1/2 sec, then go off, then the system comes on. Also, Sometime I have to hit the power button TWICE to even get anything to happen.

Using an Antec Truepower Trio 550 with the 8pin power connector.

Thanks,
Mitch

 

[Madellga]

You mean it's common, but definitely not normal.

Not really healthy for the system in the long run.

 

[spiderhole]

I'm afraid it might be bad for the hard drives, etc. Don't know if its a coinsidence but my brand new Raptor 150gb appeared to be DOA on the first boot-up (the secondary WD 320gb is fine so far). Making the terrible clicks of death sounds.

Should I try a different power supply?

Thanks,
Mitch

 

[n7]

It's normal :evil:

 

[spiderhole]

So, by normal do you guys mean that EVERYONE with this mobo has this...or that just a large percentage do?

Thanks,
M

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Madellga
You mean it's common, but definitely not normal.

Not really healthy for the system in the long run.

eah yeah yeah go back to your gigabyte worship if you're not gonna offer anything useful.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: spiderhole
So, by normal do you guys mean that EVERYONE with this mobo has this...or that just a large percentage do?

Thanks,
M

EVERYONE...I think it's like a failsafe for the BIOS where it will check the settings and revert if it can't boot with the overclock. This is just a guess, but I don't see it as a problem at all.

 

[Madellga]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Madellga
You mean it's common, but definitely not normal.

Not really healthy for the system in the long run.

eah yeah yeah go back to your gigabyte worship if you're not gonna offer anything useful.

Hey Asus Policeman, check my signature, running Abit now

I'm offering an useful advice, to care about your hardware. You're the one saying there is no problem. We've been through this in my P5B thread and there is a problem, even if you doesn't say so.

Abit AW9D does not have this issue - it nevers turn off, if it fails boot it just resets and it goes back to last good boot setup. Gigabyte only does when changing certain bios settings. Asus P5B was doing this every cold boot, Windows shutdown and even by pressing reset. I'm not saying this because I read it somewhere. It's first hand experience, I bought and tried those boards.

As for you, I don't think you tried anything else than the Asus. Don't call me a fanboy when you are one

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: Madellga
You mean it's common, but definitely not normal.

Not really healthy for the system in the long run.

Ummm yeah, right.

I would agree with dredd ont his one, I think it is a fail safe thing.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Madellga

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Madellga
You mean it's common, but definitely not normal.

Not really healthy for the system in the long run.

eah yeah yeah go back to your gigabyte worship if you're not gonna offer anything useful.

Hey Asus Policeman, check my signature, running Abit now

I'm offering an useful advice, to care about your hardware. You're the one saying there is no problem. We've been through this in my P5B thread and there is a problem, even if you doesn't say so.

Abit AW9D does not have this issue - it nevers turn off, if it fails boot it just resets and it goes back to last good boot setup. Gigabyte only does when changing certain bios settings. Asus P5B was doing this every cold boot, Windows shutdown and even by pressing reset. I'm not saying this because I read it somewhere. It's first hand experience, I bought and tried those boards.

As for you, I don't think you tried anything else than the Asus. Don't call me a fanboy when you are one

Until someone tells me it broke something, IT IS NOT A PROBLEM.

just because you're paranoid about everything different isn't my problem.

Until I see reports of HDDs dieing, memory frying, CPUs not working after a restart I'm not going to give a rats ass whether it double restarts.

 

[Madellga]

Lol, first I was a fanboy, now I'm paranoid. You're neither precise nor consistent with your arguments.

In other threads you told people not to go higher with VCore, because it's going to fry the CPU. I have yet to see someone who has fried their CPU, so based on your logic you're being paranoid and I should not give a rats.....

You only believe in things you see? You need others to tell you it's a problem, you cannot think alone if this could be a problem for you? What a crappy argument!
It's your hardware, you can do whatever you want. Be happy.

It's funny to see how people have to justify their purchases. I guess it would be a "personal" failure to admit the product bought has some kind of flaw.

For me, it is a just a piece of hardware. If I'm not satisfied, return or sell it. It can be an Asus, Gigabyte or Abit - no fanatics here

 

[Madellga]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: Madellga
You mean it's common, but definitely not normal.

Not really healthy for the system in the long run.

Ummm yeah, right.

I would agree with dredd ont his one, I think it is a fail safe thing.

Yes, it is. But other makers also have a fail safe thing that don't shut down the system.

As I said before, 100% common but not normal.

The Abit I'm running, its up for 235 hours since it was installed. As informed by OC Guru, I have:
1) Shut it down 21 times;
2) Restarted it 61 times;

Total power on/off = 21 times

In case this was a P5B, it would have been:
1) Shut it down 21 times x 2 = 42 times
2) Restarted it 61 times x 2 = 122 times (the P5B Deluxe I had was doing that power off also on reset/restart)

Total power on/off = 42 + 122 = 164 times

You can even say that the total power on/off is between 42 and 164 if you want, as I think not all mobos do that. Even so, it is something I don't like - I don't need anybody to tell me it broke their hardware....

 

[n7]

LOL WTF :laugh:

Why in the world do you shutdown & restart so much???

I now see why you are so bothered by the Asus double start issue...

However, the biggest problem i see there isn't the double start, it's you :Q

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: Madellga

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: Madellga
You mean it's common, but definitely not normal.

Not really healthy for the system in the long run.

Ummm yeah, right.

I would agree with dredd ont his one, I think it is a fail safe thing.

Yes, it is. But other makers also have a fail safe thing that don't shut down the system.

As I said before, 100% common but not normal.

The Abit I'm running, its up for 235 hours since it was installed. As informed by OC Guru, I have:
1) Shut it down 21 times;
2) Restarted it 61 times;

Total power on/off = 21 times

In case this was a P5B, it would have been:
1) Shut it down 21 times x 2 = 42 times
2) Restarted it 61 times x 2 = 122 times (the P5B Deluxe I had was doing that power off also on reset/restart)

Total power on/off = 42 + 122 = 164 times

You can even say that the total power on/off is between 42 and 164 if you want, as I think not all mobos do that. Even so, it is something I don't like - I don't need anybody to tell me it broke their hardware....

First of all, if it's 100% common it IS normal for that product/incert anything here____. I personally don't care if another manufacturer does it differently. If it was an isolated case, say only a few percentage of people having this happen, THEN it would be abnormal.

I run my system 24/7 so your "turn off and on" numbers do not apply to me. You didn't feel safe with it so you sold/sent back your board. Well that's what YOU did, not what everyone should do.

 

[Madellga]

Originally posted by: n7
LOL WTF :laugh:

Why in the world do you shutdown & restart so much???

I now see why you are so bothered by the Asus double start issue...

However, the biggest problem i see there isn't the double start, it's you :Q

I normally don't do that. But when you put a system together (ram/mobo/cpu) for the first time and you try to find the o/c conditions that work best together (speed, stability, etc) you have to try many different settings.

Now if people come here and say they can get things up and running at the first shot, well....

21 shut downs over 2 weeks is not that much for a new system. Try a setting, run Orthos, fails, go to bios, change, get it?

Now I'm running a good setup and I do that only once a day.

I tried just to demonstrate where the problem lies, because some said it's not an issue.
uGuru keeps track of the power cycles, can you imagine your Asus after a year?
Do you dump you hard drive every 6 months? I hardly upgrade hard drives and care about their durability.

If you guys want to make fun of me instead of looking into the issue, I'll withdraw from the discussion.

It seems people like only to flame and talk about AMDxIntel, ATIxNvidia. Those are the popular topics that make hundreds of posts.

If someone posts about a real experience and hardware trouble, very few are willing to help and make interesting comments.

I don't fake results, I don't lie, I try different hardware. Few members here are doing that.

 

[Madellga]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon



First of all, if it's 100% common it IS normal for that product/incert anything here____. I personally don't care if another manufacturer does it differently. If it was an isolated case, say only a few percentage of people having this happen, THEN it would be abnormal.

I run my system 24/7 so your "turn off and on" numbers do not apply to me. You didn't feel safe with it so you sold/sent back your board. Well that's what YOU did, not what everyone should do.

And it the same argument is valid for you. Because you think it is ok, it doesn't mean it is ok for everybody.

The OP asked for feedback. You stated your point of view, I stated mine and the others theirs. With different comments, the OP can make up his mind.

Do not bash me for having a different opinion. I never said everybody should follow my advice or go elsewhere. I thought this was a place where we could discuss hardware issues and exchange ideas.

To point that there are different products on the market not doing that enables people to consider this before buying. I don't see such comments on reviews and would love have more information besides o/c settings. There are many other issues not mentioned during reviews.

The Abit AW9D max itselft has Vmch drop issues a few are mentioning. I would like to have this information before buying it.

 

[Madellga]

There is no feedback yet, but perhaps this is the "first" case:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1758613&postcount=387

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Madellga
Lol, first I was a fanboy, now I'm paranoid. You're neither precise nor consistent with your arguments.

In other threads you told people not to go higher with VCore, because it's going to fry the CPU. I have yet to see someone who has fried their CPU, so based on your logic you're being paranoid and I should not give a rats.....

You only believe in things you see? You need others to tell you it's a problem, you cannot think alone if this could be a problem for you? What a crappy argument!
It's your hardware, you can do whatever you want. Be happy.

It's funny to see how people have to justify their purchases. I guess it would be a "personal" failure to admit the product bought has some kind of flaw.

For me, it is a just a piece of hardware. If I'm not satisfied, return or sell it. It can be an Asus, Gigabyte or Abit - no fanatics here

Get your facts straight I never called you a fanboy.

Anyway the latest BIOS erases this supposed problem so you can now go away.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Madellga
There is no feedback yet, but perhaps this is the "first" case:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1758613&postcount=387

No proof that it killed the drives. he could have overclocked his PCI-E and killed them that way. He could have a failing PSU, bad drives from the start, or numerous other potential causes.

Anyway like I said before...newest BIOS this is not an issue anymore. So go away

 

[n7]

Update to the 0711 bios ppl.

It fixed this "feature"

 

[Madellga]

Originally posted by: n7
Update to the 0711 bios ppl.

It fixed this "feature"

Nice to know :beer:. This was one thing keeping me away from the Asus mobos.

Do you know if the PW64 has it "fixed" also?

 

[Madellga]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Madellga
Lol, first I was a fanboy, now I'm paranoid. You're neither precise nor consistent with your arguments.

In other threads you told people not to go higher with VCore, because it's going to fry the CPU. I have yet to see someone who has fried their CPU, so based on your logic you're being paranoid and I should not give a rats.....

You only believe in things you see? You need others to tell you it's a problem, you cannot think alone if this could be a problem for you? What a crappy argument!
It's your hardware, you can do whatever you want. Be happy.

It's funny to see how people have to justify their purchases. I guess it would be a "personal" failure to admit the product bought has some kind of flaw.

For me, it is a just a piece of hardware. If I'm not satisfied, return or sell it. It can be an Asus, Gigabyte or Abit - no fanatics here

Get your facts straight I never called you a fanboy.

Anyway the latest BIOS erases this supposed problem so you can now go away.

Yes, you did:

Quote:

"eah yeah yeah go back to your gigabyte worship if you're not gonna offer anything useful. "

And you called me paranoid also. I never called you anything before that.

 

[Madellga]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Madellga
There is no feedback yet, but perhaps this is the "first" case:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1758613&postcount=387

No proof that it killed the drives. he could have overclocked his PCI-E and killed them that way. He could have a failing PSU, bad drives from the start, or numerous other potential causes.

Anyway like I said before...newest BIOS this is not an issue anymore. So go away

It is good to know it has been fixed.

Go read the thread and you see many people complaining about it.

Quote:
"Until I see reports of HDDs dieing, memory frying, CPUs not working after a restart I'm not going to give a rats ass whether it double restarts. "

As I said before, you are not consistent to yourself.

You could be also more polite. Do you get anything from Asus for patrolling forums?

Do me favor, unless you change your attitude towards my posts, please don't reply to them anymore.