P5B or DS3 for e6300... need to buy today!

[davidos]

Need to pull the trigger today or this week! These are the 2 best/cheapest right?

 

[elkinm]

Would like to know myself as I need one two.

I am leaning towards the DS3 simply because the great P5B is the Deluxe and the plain P5B looks like it has much worse cooling leading to lower overclocks.

For the DS3 I might go with the 965G version at the same price since it can run if you video card fails or you don't have one. I don't know if the additional G features will hinder overclocking?

Also, how did you decide on the 6300? It is the cheapest. I am just wondering if the stock faster 6400 for a little mare could lead to better overclocks if it becomes FSB limited?

 

[cmdrdredd]

unless you want the deluxe P5B get the DS3

 

[Dexion]

If I was given the choice again, I probably would go with a DS3.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I think the P5B Deluxe is better than DS3, but the DS3 is better than P5B non-deluxe

 

[elkinm]

Did you order yet? I gues the DS3 is winning.

Any advantages/disadvantages to the 965G. Newegg says it is neweer and may have better BIOS (memory support) out of the box. But will it overclock as high?

 

[RichUK]

Without a doubt, i wouldn't hesitate to recommend the P5B Deluxe over the DS3.

They're both great boards, but the P5B Deluxe has less quirks with incompatibility against the DS3. I am totally satisfied with mine, no issues what so ever.

 

[bobsmith1492]

I'd get the DS3; I just bought one, and it's running strong for me. It doesn't even lock up or require CMOS reset when OCing to instability; it just resets the FSB to default and starts up. I haven't had to reset CMOS yet.

Also, I'd get the 6400 if I were you. I don't know if it is my RAM or the board, but I can't budge past 450 FSB, which limits the 6300 to 3.15GHz. OTOH, a 6400 would get to 3.6GHz at that FSB... I hear Conroes can do that, so I'd recommend it.

 

[Kango2020]

My experience is that using on-board video will reduce the overclockability of the board. In fact, any HyperMemory or TurboCache video cards will also lower the boards performance. Chose wisely.

My recommendation is the DS3. It works very well for me. Not as good as my D975XBX, but for the price, a real steal.

Good luck!

 

[davidos]

Got the DS3....n ow I just need to figure out how the heck to overclock my e6300...

I like the DS3. Everything installed fine and it has a nice layout. Nice and easy...

I have no clue how to begin the overclock because I am coming from AMD...

 

[bobsmith1492]

Just start bumping up the FSB in the BIOS; drop the RAM multiplier down to like 2 to start with. It tells you the CPU clock (I think) and RAM speed right there while you change the FSB. Also, to see ALL of the options, press CNTRL + F1 while at the main BIOS screen before going into the ... (what's it called? The bottom-left menu with the FSB/RAM speed controls) menu.

 

[Madellga]

Hi,
The Gigabyte board BIOS is easier for a beginner and less confusing than the Asus.

My suggestion to you:

Get an E6400, a good cooler, good DDR2-800 RAM (OCZ, Corsair, Crucial but not the über expensive ones), good PSU (Enermax, OCZ).

Put your system together, download and flash to the lastest BIOS.

Power down and on the first boot load bios optimized default.

In BIOS second screen disable the thermal features (C1E, EIST, etc)

Overclocking bios settings (MIT screen) PRESS CTRL-F1 to show all options:
CPU Rate 8x
CPU Host ENABLED
CPU HOST FREQ 400
PCI-E 100 (or AUTO)
CIA2 DISABLED
System Memory Multiplier 2x (that's the 1:1 option)
DRAM TIMING MANUAL
CAS 5 (or CAS 4 if your RAM supports, same for the next 2 lines)
RAS TO CAS 5
RAS PRE 5
TRAS 15
ACT ACT DEL AUTO
RANK WRITE AUTO
WRITE TO PREC AUTO
REFRESH TO ACT 0
READ to PRE AUTO
MEMORY PERF NORMAL (try also FAST or TURBO as you go above FSB400)
DIMM OVERV +0.15V (you might need more, +0.30 is the max, but start lower first)
PCI-E OVERV NORMAL
GMCh OVERV +0.1V (or 0.15V)
FSB OVERV +0.1V
CPU OVERV 1.375V (try up to 1.40V also)

I learned that high VDim (2V or higher) does not help with certain types of DDR2 - it was crashing soon. After going with just 1.95V, the system is now stable (16+ hours on Prime95). If you are having issues, trying something like this (+0.15V).

Good luck

PS:
I prefer the Gigabyte over the Asus. Check out my comparison between the two:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=29&threadid=1923718&enterthread=y

Don't think I'm a Gigabyte fan, I'm replacing the DQ6 on my 1st rig with an AW9D Max.....

 

[davidos]

Originally posted by: Madellga
Hi,
The Gigabyte board BIOS is easier for a beginner and less confusing than the Asus.

My suggestion to you:

Get an E6400, a good cooler, good DDR2-800 RAM (OCZ, Corsair, Crucial but not the über expensive ones), good PSU (Enermax, OCZ).

Put your system together, download and flash to the lastest BIOS.

Power down and on the first boot load bios optimized default.

In BIOS second screen disable the thermal features (C1E, EIST, etc)

Overclocking bios settings (MIT screen) PRESS CTRL-F1 to show all options:
CPU Rate 8x
CPU Host ENABLED
CPU HOST FREQ 400
PCI-E 100 (or AUTO)
CIA2 DISABLED
System Memory Multiplier 2x (that's the 1:1 option)
DRAM TIMING MANUAL
CAS 5 (or CAS 4 if your RAM supports, same for the next 2 lines)
RAS TO CAS 5
RAS PRE 5
TRAS 15
ACT ACT DEL AUTO
RANK WRITE AUTO
WRITE TO PREC AUTO
REFRESH TO ACT 0
READ to PRE AUTO
MEMORY PERF NORMAL (try also FAST or TURBO as you go above FSB400)
DIMM OVERV +0.15V (you might need more, +0.30 is the max, but start lower first)
PCI-E OVERV NORMAL
GMCh OVERV +0.1V (or 0.15V)
FSB OVERV +0.1V
CPU OVERV 1.375V (try up to 1.40V also)

I learned that high VDim (2V or higher) does not help with certain types of DDR2 - it was crashing soon. After going with just 1.95V, the system is now stable (16+ hours on Prime95). If you are having issues, trying something like this (+0.15V).

Good luck

PS:
I prefer the Gigabyte over the Asus. Check out my comparison between the two:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=29&threadid=1923718&enterthread=y

Don't think I'm a Gigabyte fan, I'm replacing the DQ6 on my 1st rig with an AW9D Max.....

Thanks! If I already have the e6300 is this the same but just substitute the 7x multiplier?

 

[Madellga]

Hi,
Yes, it is 7x for the E6300.

The thing is that you can go from the max (7,8,9 depending on the CPU) down to 6, including all stops in the middle. This allows the user to run at higher FSB, but brings also higher stress to the mobo.

Better to run higher CPU multi. It's easier and cheaper (given current DDR2 prices).

Take care / good luck