P8P67 Pro problems

[src1425]

Installed Win 7 64 to my SSD on my i5 2500K/P8P67 Pro rebuild, and promptly lost all my drives when I rebooted, and was unable to boot to Windows, just to BIOS. After clearing CMOS and connecting drives one by one, I was able to see the optical drive when it was connected by itself, although it won't boot from my Windows 7 disk. When the SSD is connected I can't see it, and when both the optical drive and the SSD are connected I can't see either one.

Any idea what the problem might be? Judging from various boards I don't seem to be alone with boot/Windows problems on the P8P67 boards.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Doesn't the P8P67 use 2 controllers to arrive at the number of SATA ports it has? Have you tried making sure everything is plugged into the intel controller rather than spread across the intel and marvell controllers or vice versa?

I have the vanilla version of this board coming today so I'd like to see how you resolve this problem.

Edit: Perhaps you could try plugging everything into the light blue block of SATA 3gb/s ports. The other ports are all SATA 6gb/s.

 

[bankster55]

Your post seriously lacking in info
you in AHCI mode?
On the Intel chip?
Which Intel AHCI drivers?
What did you use to partition?
Did you partition in MBR or GPT?
What is your boot order?

Do a diskpart from cmd line from Win 7 DVD

diskpart
sel dis 0
lis par
sel par 1
det par
-----------------------
post info here

 

[src1425]

Doesn't the P8P67 use 2 controllers to arrive at the number of SATA ports it has? Have you tried making sure everything is plugged into the intel controller rather than spread across the intel and marvell controllers or vice versa?

I have the vanilla version of this board coming today so I'd like to see how you resolve this problem.

Edit: Perhaps you could try plugging everything into the light blue block of SATA 3gb/s ports. The other ports are all SATA 6gb/s.

Yes, I tried disabling the Marvell controller and only used the light blue Intel SATA 3Gb ports, but it didn't make any difference.

 

[src1425]

Your post seriously lacking in info
you in AHCI mode?
On the Intel chip?
Which Intel AHCI drivers?
What did you use to partition?
Did you partition in MBR or GPT?
What is your boot order?

Do a diskpart from cmd line from Win 7 DVD

diskpart
sel dis 0
lis par
sel par 1
det par
-----------------------
post info here

Sorry, I can't seem to access the the Win 7 disk, so I can't do diskpart, unless there's another way that you can suggest. However, to answer your questions as much as possible, I've tried both AHCI and IDE, on both the Marvell and Intel SATA ports. I believe the partition was created in MBR - just the standard formatting of the drive during Win 7 installation. I've tried several boot orders, including the SSD booting first and the optical drive booting first.

Does that help? Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide.

 

[bankster55]

And SSD must be in AHCI with F6 floppy drivers on a usb stick during install, and you gotta pick em during custom install drivers icon

 

[StinkyPinky]

Installed Win 7 64 to my SSD on my i5 2500K/P8P67 Pro rebuild, and promptly lost all my drives when I rebooted, and was unable to boot to Windows, just to BIOS. After clearing CMOS and connecting drives one by one, I was able to see the optical drive when it was connected by itself, although it won't boot from my Windows 7 disk. When the SSD is connected I can't see it, and when both the optical drive and the SSD are connected I can't see either one.

Any idea what the problem might be? Judging from various boards I don't seem to be alone with boot/Windows problems on the P8P67 boards.

Did you update the bios? Go to another pc, download the bios, stick it on a floppy, and use EZ Flash within the mobos bios to flash.

 

[src1425]

And SSD must be in AHCI with F6 floppy drivers on a usb stick during install, and you gotta pick em during custom install drivers icon

I have to confess that's the first I've heard of doing the SSD driver installation from USB, although I'm aware that SSDs need to be on AHCI and installed with no other hard drives connected. However, when I put the SSD in my old rig (with a 5 year-old DFI LanParty board) and installed Windows, it worked just fine.

StinkyPinky - yes, I updated to the most recent, official BIOS, although there's a beta version that might be worth trying.

 

[bankster55]

thats why both devices disappear
they are both on Intel SATA AHCI (hopefully)
no driver
A Win 7 install will boot into a can of spaghetti, but after the reboot if theres no drivers IN, then you are dead meat.
turn off marvel/JMicron - do not confuse install
and you have to put stick in USB 2.0 not 3.0
and the SSD/DVD in the INTEL SATA 3.0 slots, not 2 marvel or 2 intel SATA 6.0 slots
Win 7 wont have usb 3.0 support until sp1 rtm
And SSD's dont have to be alone - just during a brand new install its best
Do not partition any SSD with anything other than Win 7
They have to be aligned for full performance
Formatting does not fix incorrect align
Only low level format or clean command in diskpart or new Win 7 install

 

[src1425]

Thanks, Bankster55, that makes sense. The only part I'm not clear on is creating the F6 floppy drivers on USB. Is there a link for that? And is that to install the Intel AHCI drivers?

Thanks in advance. It's been 5 years since my last full build, and there's a lot to catch up on.

 

[bankster55]

Reread my post ^ I updated it a bit

Yeah its just AHCI
Raid has a whole manager console
X86
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...apid+Storage+Technology+(Intel®+RST)&lang=eng

X64
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...apid+Storage+Technology+(Intel®+RST)&lang=eng

these are jun 2010 drivers which will get you in
For SSD I would update them with the new 10.1.1008 afterwards
These dont seem to load during install for me which I think will be fixed in Win 7 SP1 (out Mon). They are too new (2 weeks old)
Basically you are loading the chip controller drivers at install, then run the full .exe after install to load all the various chip drivers like USB

heres the full .exe

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/confirm.aspx?httpDown=http://downloadmirror.intel.com/18859/a08/iata96cd.exe&lang=eng&Dwnldid=18859&ProductID=2101&ProductFamily=Chipsets&ProductLine=Chipset+Software&ProductProduct=Intel%c2%ae+Rapid+Storage+Technology+(Intel%c2%ae+RST)

and heres the whole page
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sea...=Intel®+Rapid+Storage+Technology+(Intel®+RST)

 

[src1425]

Thanks, I'll give it a try. I greatly appreciate your help.

 

[bankster55]

and only stick 1 ram module in A2 blue slot

 

[mclaren777]

SSD/DVD in the INTEL SATA 3.0 slots, not 2 marvel or 2 intel SATA 6.0 slots

At some point you can change the SSD to the SATA6 port, right?

 

[bankster55]

absolutely, just trying to get the guy going without complicating things, so he understands the basics to getting a new SSD drive going in AHCI or RAID mode

as it turns out the new OCZ and Corsair SSD with over 550MB/s and 480MB/s respectively means SATA 3.0 isnt long for this world. SATA 4.0 anyone?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4100/ocz-vertex-pro-3-demo-worlds-first-sandforce-sf2000

 

[Mogadon]

On all the builds I've done using SSDs, which admittedly is limited to about 5, I have never had to manually install AHCI drivers during the windows installation.

Is it normal to have to manually install ACHI drivers?

Last time I had to install drivers during windows installation was for a 3ware RAID card.

 

[bankster55]

you guys are going to have to stop living in the past
The P67 has a new chip (single - no SB), for sale Jan 9 2011
Win 7 came out in Oct 24 2009
Even the drivers on the mobo disk are 7 months old
There can be no correct drivers for this in your Win 7 DVD during install or in your ISO
I seriously doubt they are in SP1
Intel just came out 2 weeks ago with the first drivers that will support >2TB drives correctly. They LOOK like the same 10R drivers, but they aint.
If you are using a 3 yr old mobo, any driver that far back or higher would work and would be on the DVD
Same deal with laptop and netbook oems
O/S upgraders never could just load the O/S without "the SATA drivers" which were non existent on the the RETAIL/UPGRADE O/S CD because the mobo were all proprietary stuff made by the millions for companies like Dell Compaq and HP, and you had to go to their sites and get the exact drivers.
So the "hobbiest" crowd would just set BIOS to SATA IDE emulate and the install would load the generic 2006 MS drivers, something they could not do in AHCI. In those days it did not mean a whole lot of dif in benches.

Yeah, you can load something that might work. But with SSD's dont you want the max performance? You paid big money for a little drive, right?

Tech is moving very fast now, the new OCZ SSD's like I said will be saturating the SATA 3.0 spec. Not to mention your SSD needs a special alignment of 2048KB to first partition, which is something I am sure you have no awareness of. Not to mention EFI bios. Not to mention AFT drives.

I like to do everything right, not half ass. Dont get upset that I recommend something that "I never had to do", like I'm making things unnesessarily complicated.

The OP is dead in the water - right?
That means he's gotta do something different.

 

[Mogadon]

Take it easy man, I'm just saying I've never had to do it (with very similar hardware and same OS), no need to get your knickers in a twist, I didn't say you were wrong.

I'm not "half-assing" it with sub spec performance from my system, I install all the latest drivers the first time I boot into windows, never had a problem getting spec+ results from all my hardware, SSDs included.

Anyway sounds like you got everything covered here with your fountain of knowledge so I'll just leave you to it and hit sack.

 

[SmallGovBigPeop]

The problem was that Win7 install would start from my CD drive but after I had clicked the Start Install button a window would come up saying "A required CD/DVD device driver is missing. If you have a driver floppy disk, CD, DVDm or USB flash drive, please insert it now. Note. If the windows installation media is in the drive, you can safely remove it for this step."[/B]
I now believe that the wording used by MS on this warning is bad and that the drivers needed are NOT the CD/DVD drivers at all but the RAID CONTROLLER and THE SATA ATA CONTROLLER drivers.
How you get those drivers on the iso image and CD was a problem to far for me as it basically is called a crap job by Microsoft and its not a bad burn.

This was pain in the Axxs and took me days to resolve even replacing my perfectly good ATA optical CD drive for a new SATA (unnecessarily).

I finaly resovled this install problem by using a very neat MS tool called “Windows 7 USB/DVD Download tool”

Make sure you have a large USB (4Gb min) stick plugged in to a computer.
Open the tool and search for the iso file you downloaded from MS. (If you have an actual MS Win7 install disk from the shop create a iso file from this).
Just follow the next steps and you will have your bootable Win7 USB drive.
What to do next.
On the P8P67 the only motherboard ports that worked correctly with this boot stick was the USB2 ports 3 & 4 (4th block down). Page 2.46 iin the manual.
1) Place your bootable USB stick in the port and boot to the Bios screen
2) At the bottom of the screen click on the Boot Menu (F8) button
3) In the pop up window select the boot USB shown
Win7 will now install all the way.

Personally considering the cost, Microsoft obviously doesn’t give a Sh….

NOTE: If you are going to use RAID set this in the Bios before you load up Win7.
NOTE: Not all the eight SATA slots on the MB support CD drives.

Other problems I had that lots of folk also seam to have.
Cannot install updates from Windows Update.
In my case this was caused by a bad RAM module. As the install progressed the files would be written to the SSD but interrupts in the memory screwed up some DLL’s and others. Even though windows started up fine and some updates did go though it was the 193 faulty files that stopped it working. This issue alone took me 4 days to resolve. The moral is Always use a mem tester.
Took out the bad RAM and reinstalled Win7.

My Spec Below
600 W Enermax EPG600AWT PRO 87+, 80 PLUS Gold Power Supply
ASUS P8P67 Deluxe MB,
Intel-Core i7-2600 3 and 16GB of 1600 Skill RAM,
ASUS ATI Radeon 6950 2GB PCI Graphics card,
ASUS Xonar D2X PCI-E Soundcard,
DeLOCK PCI Express controller card 2x SATA - 1x IDE,
StarTech 2 Port SATA 6 Gbps PCI Express SATA Controller Card,
StarTech PCI to PCI Express Adapter Card.
Noctua-Dual Radiator and Fan CPU Cooler,
DRIVES
2 = Intel X25-M 80GB 2.5-inch SATA II Internal MLC Solid State Drive - OS - Raid 1
2 = Western Digital VelociRaptor 600GB 3.5 SATA – To store the Program Files and my Work Files – Raid 5
4 = Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5 SATA 6GB – To store Family video and pictures – Raid 5
2 = 2TB Seagate ST32000641AS Barracuda XT, SATA – To store all Media Films, TV ect, - could be Raid 5
All drives are in Quick remove Raid cradles. All this is bundled in a large tower I had lying around.