Pair of 1.6 GHz Xeons

[MrBig]

Anybody know anything about those heat sinks and fans Terry picked up, I'm wondering if they make alot of noise. They are a great buy and I'd like to jump on them but if someone could shed some light on them, it would be appreciated. Great find Terry!

 

[ericlp]

Thats dirt cheap. Even comes with the xeon stickers.

Cool, thanks. I picked up four of them... Who knows. Might get a few rigs running for SETI later that is if I can find a really good deal on MOBOs.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: MrBig
Anybody know anything about those heat sinks and fans Terry picked up, I'm wondering if they make alot of noise. They are a great buy and I'd like to jump on them but if someone could shed some light on them, it would be appreciated. Great find Terry!

Yes these are OEM heatsinks and fans, so the fans will be loud. If you don;t mind doing some drilling then you can add other fans.

 

[ElectricLegs]

Supermicro Copper Xeon Coolers $5.99

Only 30 db noise.


For those needing Xeon power supplies- The Coolmax Taurus series has both power adapters needed and are quiet with good airflow for a reasonable price.

 

[Stefan2000]

Originally posted by: ElectricLegs
Supermicro Copper Xeon Coolers $5.99

Only 30 db noise.

Those are the heatsinks that I'm using on my Supermicro P4DC6+II. They're the heatsink they included with it. Perhaps they include them with other Supermicro dual Xeon boards as well. Anyway, I don't know the exact decibel rating of them and I must admit that I've never compared them to the Intel wind tunnel heatsinks (as the wind tunnels won't fit my P4DC6+II), but in my experience and personal opinion, they're not exactly quiet. Of course it may well be that there's no such thing as a quiet Xeon heatsink and perhaps I just haven't heard the really loud ones yet.

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: ElectricLegs
Supermicro Copper Xeon Coolers $5.99

Only 30 db noise.


For those needing Xeon power supplies- The Coolmax Taurus series has both power adapters needed and are quiet with good airflow for a reasonable price.

Where does it say the taurus comes with adapters? I went to their site and some sites selling them and didn't see such a confirmation.

Thanks!

 

[ElectricLegs]

I have a few of the Coolmax Taurus 400w that I bought from Newegg a few months ago. Tey's in da box!

 

[coolred]

Sweet finally made it to the last post, that was a lot of reading. Now I need help with a decision. I have always been an AMD fan, nothing against intel though. I recently started building a dual Opteron system(single Opteron 246 for now, MSI K8T Master2 FAR or something like that, and 512MB Gigaram)I planned to add another proc and memory later on, whne the money came in. But as seems to always happen, the money did more going away then coming in. Not to mention I also need a couple other parts for another rig, and then some extra cash for some networking equipment.

So, while I know these would be a bit of a step backwards compared to dual optty 246(at least I would think so, am I wrong?)it would alos be a step forward as then I would have dual processors, rather then a single processor, and who knows when I will be able to get another. According to newegg, the total cost for retail motherboard, RAM and OEM Optty would be 762.00, so even if I can sell it all for like 600.00 that should still cover the cost of a new MB, these procs, PSU, and some memory right? ANd if I get lucky and sell it for more then that, then maybe I can afford the few other parts I need for my other system.

Any opinions would be great, thanks

 

[Dubb]

well, I got my ebayed heatsinks on thursday. went to set it all up today and realized the heatsinks were missing 2 screws and both sets of mental retention clips. ARGGGGGHHH.

I've been trying to build a computer for 2 fvcking months, and somehting always gets in the way. first a dead 3.2 (a nice 2weeks out of warranty, and now that I think about it, it was proabably dead before the warranty ran out, but I thought it was the motherboard at the time), then I wait for the intel price drop on 3.2s and 3.4s that NEVER shows up in outlets, then I decide to scrap the P4 box and go this route, spend two weeks waiting for all my parts, get overcharged by mwave, and now I'm thwarted by 4 10c pieces of bent metal.

Ever get the feeling somebody up there doesn't like you?

sorry, just had to vent...

 

[VirtualLarry]

Hey, Compgeeks is having a special Sunday sale - one of the items, here , is a Tyan dual Socket-603 (Xeon) board, for $109! Hurry!

(Note that although the product page shows a price of $144.50, going to Compgeeks' front page, and then viewing the list of items on sale, shows the board to be listed at $109.)

"Tyan Thunder i7500 S2720 Dual Xeon Socket 603 400FSB MB"

MAGNIFICENT MOTHERBOARD! Utilizing the Intel E7500 chipset, the new Thunder i7500 provides leading-edge performance for today's high-speed servers. Designed to accept up to two Intel Xeon Processors and 12GB of DDR memory, the Thunder i7500 also features two fully independent PCI-X buses for maximum I/O bandwidth. In addition, the Thunder i7500 features Gigabit Ethernet and Fast Ethernet, and ATI VGA.

Whoa.. two seperate independent PCI-X busses? This thing is crazy.. wish I could afford one.
Only drawback looks to be requires registered ECC memory, and onboard ATI Rage 8MB video, and no AGP slot. Anyone make high-performance PCI-X video cards? Still, this would make one heck of a number-cruncher or compilier box, I would think.

 

[TerryMathews]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Hey, Compgeeks is having a special Sunday sale - one of the items, here , is a Tyan dual Socket-603 (Xeon) board, for $109! Hurry!

(Note that although the product page shows a price of $144.50, going to Compgeeks' front page, and then viewing the list of items on sale, shows the board to be listed at $109.)

"Tyan Thunder i7500 S2720 Dual Xeon Socket 603 400FSB MB"

MAGNIFICENT MOTHERBOARD! Utilizing the Intel E7500 chipset, the new Thunder i7500 provides leading-edge performance for today's high-speed servers. Designed to accept up to two Intel Xeon Processors and 12GB of DDR memory, the Thunder i7500 also features two fully independent PCI-X buses for maximum I/O bandwidth. In addition, the Thunder i7500 features Gigabit Ethernet and Fast Ethernet, and ATI VGA.

Whoa.. two seperate independent PCI-X busses? This thing is crazy.. wish I could afford one.
Only drawback looks to be requires registered ECC memory, and onboard ATI Rage 8MB video, and no AGP slot. Anyone make high-performance PCI-X video cards? Still, this would make one heck of a number-cruncher or compilier box, I would think.

A Socket 603 motherboard is incompatible with these chips.

 

[Stefan2000]

A Socket 603 motherboard is incompatible with these chips.

Actually, it might be possible to make these chips work in a socket 603 board. If I recall correctly I believe the additional pin on socket 604 Xeons does nothing except prevent them from being inserted in socket 603 motherboards. This was initially done because socket 603 boards were 400Mhz FSB only and the newer socket 604 chips required a board that supported 533Mhz FSB (or 800Mhz for the newest Xeons). Anyway, since these chips are 400Mhz FSB chips, it may be possible to simply remove the additional pin thus allowing them to be insert in a socket 603 board. Whether or not the socket 603 board would accept the chips and boot up normally I don't know. On some socket 603 boards voltage might be an issue because these chips run at a significantly lower voltage than older socket 603 chips did. If the VRMs on a board couldn't produce the voltage the VID pins requested then it would probably refuse to power up. Anyway, I do believe that somone over at the 2cpu forums claimed to have made these chips work in either a Supermicro P4DC6+II or P4DCE+II. Of course this kind of modding isn't for the faint of heart as snipping off a pin on a CPU would definitely void any warranty and if you snipped the wrong one it's game over. Also the whole point why most people are interested in these CPUs is their overclocking potential. Seeing as how socket 603 boards only supported 400Mhz FSB overclocking wouldn't likely be an option with a socket 603 board. So, it might be pointless anyway.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: TerryMathews
A Socket 603 motherboard is incompatible with these chips.

Apologies for my mistake. I'm definately not a "Xeon guru", I saw the sale and that it was a DP P4 Xeon 400Mhz FSB board and posted it, since the sale was for a limited time. I actually thought that all P4 Xeons were Socket-603, didn't realize that there was a 603/604 distinction. I hope no-one went and bought an incompatible mobo because of me. Again, apologies.

(Still, dual PCI-X is pretty sweet, IMHO. Hopefully a pin-mod might be possible. I have a friend with a couple of Prestonia Xeon chips, and a dead dual board, wonder if those chips might work in this board.)

Interestingly, according to the Intel Processor Spec Finder here , these chips don't exist!?

Can someone post their CPUID numbers for these chips, using WCPUID or CPU-Z? I'm curious what the stepping is. I'm pretty sure that these must be some OEM "special" batch that Intel made, probably de-rated from some other batch. (Sold at slower speed than they are really capable of, have some of their cache disabled due to mfg issues, etc.)

Update - price drop! The same company have them listed on E-Bay with a "buy it now" price of $109, instead of $119. link

 

[coolred]

Dang, should I switch or not?

 

[MichaelD]

Interestingly, according to the Intel Processor Spec Finder here , these chips don't exist!?

VirtualLarry, Check out page 14, middle of chart. It's listed twice.

Why it's listed twice, I don't know. I agree that it's strange these processors don't show up on Intel's CPU-finder application.

They are most definitely real ... are the two I bought.

Pic 2

 

[lookouthere]

DEAL DEAD
IT IS SOLD OUT

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Interestingly, according to the Intel Processor Spec Finder here , these chips don't exist!?

VirtualLarry, Check out page 14, middle of chart. It's listed twice.

Thanks. I checked that pdf, and apparently, those are the only C1-step, "Low Voltage" Xeon procs listed. All of the other SL6Gx CPUs, are much, much faster. I'm guessing, that these chips are actually capable of much faster speeds as well, and were intentially de-rated in terms of both internal clock, and FSB speeds, in order to be able to classify them as "Low Voltage". They should be superb overclockers, on the order of mobile Athlons, etc. Congrats to all who got in on this deal.

 

[JSt0rm]

thank god this is finally sold out. I was almost spinning in circles with creditcard in hand keeping myself from buying them. Good luck to all that got them.

 

[lookouthere]

dang it............i missed it

 

[Mloot]

This deal actually sold out a few weeks ago, and the ones listed since then were at least the second batch they sold. I wouldn't be surprised to see them get more in stock fairly soon.

 

[MaskedAvenger]

I have never used Linux but would like to try it until I get a copy of Windows XP Pro (which supports dual processors). Which version of Linux would work well with a dual Xeon ASUS PC-DL system?

PS: Like Mloot said, I would not be surprised to see them get more of these processors. I got a pair the first time they were offered, and a second pair 7-10 days later when they were offered again. Now if only my heat sinks would show up I'd be ready to go!

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: lookouthere
DEAL DEAD
IT IS SOLD OUT

...and it only took like 2 months ! wow, this must have been a really hot deal

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: Mloot
This deal actually sold out a few weeks ago, and the ones listed since then were at least the second batch they sold. I wouldn't be surprised to see them get more in stock fairly soon.

right, along with athlon xp 1500+ and other has been cpus which you can get on ebay for $20

 

[JSt0rm]

well I think the lure of this is the overclocking potential of the chips. Maybe this thread should get moved over to overclocking or another could start over there. I would like to follow everyones experiences with these chips.

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
well I think the lure of this is the overclocking potential of the chips. Maybe this thread should get moved over to overclocking or another could start over there. I would like to follow everyones experiences with these chips.

I suggest to move this thread to the Collectibles/Antiques category