Pakistan and blasphemy

[Londo_Jowo]

It's funny that the country (Indonesia) with the largest Muslim population acts nothing like Pakistan yet they are to be condemned by the actions of the few. The majority of the Muslims in Indonesia also are opposed to Sharia law. They allow the sale of alcohol and pork.

I find it funny how some in this thread have proven to be no better than those they hate so badly.

 

[bfdd]

your faith is shit if you have to kill others who would raise questions which doubt it. they don't have faith, they have idiocy.

 

[CanOWorms]

Lots of European countries have blasphemy laws, too. They're usually used to protect the godly status of the monarchs and their families. These kinds of things have no place in civilized societies.

Hopefully Pakistan and various European countries will modernize one day in the future.

 

[Kadarin]

It's funny that the country (Indonesia) with the largest Muslim population acts nothing like Pakistan yet they are to be condemned by the actions of the few. The majority of the Muslims in Indonesia also are opposed to Sharia law. They allow the sale of alcohol and pork.

Indonesia still has its issues with extremist militant groups, though. It's not always a big happy modern place.

 

[Moonbeam]

It's funny that the country (Indonesia) with the largest Muslim population acts nothing like Pakistan yet they are to be condemned by the actions of the few. The majority of the Muslims in Indonesia also are opposed to Sharia law. They allow the sale of alcohol and pork.

I find it funny how some in this thread have proven to be no better than those they hate so badly.

I don't know why.

All hate of others is hate of the self. Since the feeling we all have is that we are the worst in the world, projection creates some real monsters out there.

Not many have the intellectual acuity and intentional honesty like you can see in nonlinear here, when looking at these kinds of things, not to fall into this reactive trap. For most, anything that disturbs their sleep is felt as a threat.

One of the reason is that self hate in a group tends toward the vigilante cathartic. Emotionally dead people feel an need to be alive and jump at any chance to go crazy.

 

[1prophet]

It's funny that the country (Indonesia) with the largest Muslim population acts nothing like Pakistan yet they are to be condemned by the actions of the few. The majority of the Muslims in Indonesia also are opposed to Sharia law. They allow the sale of alcohol and pork.

I find it funny how some in this thread have proven to be no better than those they hate so badly.

The moderate Muslims should rise up and do something about it because they are getting a bad reputation from the extremists.

Now where have we heard that before?:whiste:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=31509695#post31509695

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/04/06/Cindy_Jacobs_Gays_Caused_Japanese_Quake_Tsunami/



Fantastically idiotic. She and her ilk are the kinds of people that those of you who are religious should be shunning. They're the ones that give you a bad reputation.

 

[Baasha]

No irony. There is no room on our planet for religious fanatic retards who murder innocent people in the name of religion. That includes Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhist, etc. Not surprisingly, a huge percentage of them will be Muslims

You forgot the Jews..

 

[Abwx]

No irony. There is no room on our planet for religious fanatic retards who murder innocent people in the name of religion. That includes Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhist, etc. Not surprisingly, a huge percentage of them will be Muslims

Did you count the 650 000 iraqi civilians killed by the US army
in what we can call a racism based war ?..

Or Madeleine Albright saying in 1999 that the resulting 500 000
dead iraqi children from a tight embargo was a thing that was "worthy"?..

As for fanatism and cruelty, one who think a little has not
to make a big effort to do to find some contemporary exemples...

 

[Kadarin]

Did you count the 650 000 iraqi civilians killed by the US army
in what we can call a racism based war ?..

Or Madeleine Albright saying in 1999 that the resulting 500 000
dead iraqi children from a tight embargo was a thing that was "worthy"?..

As for fanatism and cruelty, one who think a little has not
to make a big effort to do to find some contemporary exemples...

Wait, are you actually apologizing for radical Islamic culture? Really?

 

[Abwx]

Wait, are you actually apologizing for radical Islamic culture? Really?

Not at all, i was pointing that head of state s fanatism and cruelty
that kill thousands goes uncritisized while an isolated such act is
immediatly perceived as a generality.

By the way, pakistan people follow pre islamic tribal rules
that are "legitimated" by pretending that it s compatible
with islam, which is not true...

By the same twisted logic , the Saudi kings use islam
as a covert to keep on running their country with tribal
laws that have nothing to do with islam as well...

 

[iGas]

Indonesia still has its issues with extremist militant groups, though. It's not always a big happy modern place.

So as any Christian/Jewish society.

We have nut case in Canada that want to separate the country. We have nut case American that still are hanging on to the Confederate society and the KKK believe. We have Protestant and Christian killing each others in Ireland. I can give you more example you need it.

Don't be a redneck asshat and condemn everyone in third world countries, because you are happen to be born in a wealthy country and never have to struggle to put foods on the table. Even your pet dogs & cats have better lives than hundred of millions if not billions of people on this planet. Pakistan is among some of the poorest countries in the world with 30% of the population with out access to electricity, literacy rate is 44% of population, and 30% of the population are living below the poverty level by the WHO (income less than $1,25 a day that provide food/shelter/clothing/education/medicine for their family, less than $456 a year).

I have been to Indonesia and Malaysia (Muslim countries) and they are no where the savage that you and your buddies described. In fact much of the population in larger cities read/write/speaks English as a second language which is much more than I can say for redneck American.

IMHO, Redneck = Zionist = extremist Muslim = salvages

Instead of feeling sorry these unfortunate people, and be thankful for being born in a wealthy county. The aholes that never have to worry where there next meal going to be spends their time judges people who has to struggle for every breath they take.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Indonesia still has its issues with extremist militant groups, though. It's not always a big happy modern place.

Based on your post I'm sure you've never lived in Indonesia.

 

[QuantumPion]

It's frightening how just a few moderate but corrupt generals are all that stand in the way of these crazy fanatics using nuclear weapons.

 

[werepossum]

It's funny that the country (Indonesia) with the largest Muslim population acts nothing like Pakistan yet they are to be condemned by the actions of the few. The majority of the Muslims in Indonesia also are opposed to Sharia law. They allow the sale of alcohol and pork.

I find it funny how some in this thread have proven to be no better than those they hate so badly.

This is why I suspect that Pakistan under Christianity would be much the same, Old Testament having many of the same barbarian prescriptions. And also why I have some hope that Islam might yet achieve a moderation. However, for that to happen, either the current interpretation of the Koran's contradictions (Muhammad being without flaw, Allah obviously changed his mind; even G-d couldn't predict those darn Jews wouldn't convert!) so that the touchy-feel early Koran prevails over the evil, head-detaching, non-Muslim-killing, child-fucking later parts of the Koran, or the majority of Muslims have to ignore the bad parts. When and where Muslims can ignore the less evil parts of the Koran and Sharia in favor of modern Western (or far Eastern) mores, there is hope. I don't have a LOT of hope though, as that doesn't seem to be the way Islam is going.

 

[Cheesetogo]

This is just unbelievable. Pakistan is a fucked up country, and Islam is a fucked up religion that has no place in civilized society. The world would be a better place without both.

I agree on your first statement. I disagree with the second. In my opinion, we see Islam as being fucked up because Muslims tend to be more religious than Christians. As a result, the extremists are even more extreme, and so you get people that take the Qua'ran in a completely literal way, and actually act on what it says to do.

Here's a passage from the bible:

And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying ... he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

You forgot the Jews..

Don't you mean the "untouchables" that you despise and would never let your daughter even near?

Truth be told, most of all religious faiths are intelligent people, but there are orthodox Jews, Evangelical Christians, fundamentalist Muslims and Hindus like yourself who are completely and utterly fucked up beyond all human recognition.

If we could just store the lot of you on a piece of land and have you fight it out amonst yourselves the rest of the world could live in peace.

Unfortunantly for Indonesia, the fucked up Hindus in the LTTE, the biggest terrorist organisation in the world before the glorious Iraq "let them spread further" adventure are not likely to go away, even after the defeat.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Based on your post I'm sure you've never lived in Indonesia.

It's been a place of civil warfare for a few decades and since the LTTE was forced to lay down their weapons they still continue with diminished force.

It's a shithole at the very best and that's only if you are visiting at the right time when it's calm and in the right place.

LITERALY a shithole too for other reasons.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

This is why I suspect that Pakistan under Christianity would be much the same, Old Testament having many of the same barbarian prescriptions. And also why I have some hope that Islam might yet achieve a moderation. However, for that to happen, either the current interpretation of the Koran's contradictions (Muhammad being without flaw, Allah obviously changed his mind; even G-d couldn't predict those darn Jews wouldn't convert!) so that the touchy-feel early Koran prevails over the evil, head-detaching, non-Muslim-killing, child-fucking later parts of the Koran, or the majority of Muslims have to ignore the bad parts. When and where Muslims can ignore the less evil parts of the Koran and Sharia in favor of modern Western (or far Eastern) mores, there is hope. I don't have a LOT of hope though, as that doesn't seem to be the way Islam is going.

You don't fucking say?

It's like teaching Orthodox Jews that women are actually worth as much as men...

Which should tell a lot of people that culture has more to do with it than the faith itself, hell there are Kurds and Indians who do shit you'd claim were Muslim traditions but it really isn't, it's fucking ancient culture mixed with religion to make it fit proper, kinda like how the winter solstice of ancient European religions became Christmas but in a way more fucked up manner...

I get it, i really do, i know where they are from and it doesn't matter if they are Samarians, Kurds, Muslims, Hindus or Orthodox Jews, they are equally fucked in the head because they share these cultural values that are FUCKED UP!

It's not even contained in that region, that culture exist all over Asia and Africa along with some Eastern European nations too, well actually everywhere since it's been spread with immigrants.

In the UK, those who do the honor killings and acid attacks against women are mostly Indians, second is Kurdish tribal religious immigrants, a distant third are Muslims who are Kurds.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

It's been a place of civil warfare for a few decades and since the LTTE was forced to lay down their weapons they still continue with diminished force.

It's a shithole at the very best and that's only if you are visiting at the right time when it's calm and in the right place.

LITERALY a shithole too for other reasons.

You are a fucking idiot, the LTTE have never been in Indonesia. The LTTE is located in Sri Lanka. Please stick to something you actually know/understand rather than posting you typical bullshit hatred towards Muslims.

 

[Nebor]

Did you count the 650 000 iraqi civilians killed by the US army
in what we can call a racism based war ?..

Or Madeleine Albright saying in 1999 that the resulting 500 000
dead iraqi children from a tight embargo was a thing that was "worthy"?..

As for fanatism and cruelty, one who think a little has not
to make a big effort to do to find some contemporary exemples...

Holy shit, the US Army killed 650,000 Iraqis? The most inflated numbers I've heard was 100,000. Are you trying to flatter us? :awe:

 

[Abwx]

You are a fucking idiot, the LTTE have never been in Indonesia. The LTTE is located in Sri Lanka. Please stick to something you actually know/understand rather than posting you typical bullshit hatred towards Muslims.

SAS seems weaks in geography as well...
Although what he says is perhaps possible with COD....

 

[Abwx]

Holy shit, the US Army killed 650,000 Iraqis? The most inflated numbers I've heard was 100,000. Are you trying to flatter us? :awe:

The most inflated is over one million...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

The 650K is from a recent survey...

 

[RabidMongoose]

Lots of European countries have blasphemy laws, too. They're usually used to protect the godly status of the monarchs and their families. These kinds of things have no place in civilized societies.

Hopefully Pakistan and various European countries will modernize one day in the future.

Excellent point, but I have the feeling that some hell hole like Pakistan will modernize far quicker than these European countries.

 

[Nebor]

The most inflated is over one million...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War

The 650K is from a recent survey...

Cool. You're next. :thumbsup:

 

[ra990]

All you people advocating killing off an entire group of people based on their religion would get along great with Hitler. Funny how so many people here think that somehow their mentality is any different from the mentality of those that led to such tragedies as the holocaust.