Palestinians Burn US Flags

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emilyek

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Does anyone really believe it's realistic to try to force the issue from coming up in the hopes that it will just go away? Clearly there is a problem in that region, and clearly there is a conflict that I feel like people aren't just going to forget about. I'm not sure what the issue is, but keeping Pandora's box closed doesn't seem like a very good long term solution.

Keeping it closed is just fine for Israel, because Israel doesn't want a solution; the longer they can keep delaying, the more settlements their fundamentalist fanatics can build and more Palestinians they can drive off, starve or shoot. The U.S.-- despite the whining from Tel Aviv-- effectively facilitates this strategy. The Palestinians have realized that U.S.-led peace talks ultimately are theater designed to perpetuate the status quo. Going directly to the U.N., who generally supports them, is probably the smartest thing they could do. Of course, there is the possibility that, with Palestinian statehood, Israel could then retaliate against their new neighbor with maximum prejudice and impunity to settle the matter once and for all in their favor. Even if they didn't get attacked, they could put on some turbans and cook one up; they've done it before.

And, unfortunately, it all isn't restricted to a bunch of religious nuts in some scrub-brush halfway around the world. They of course threaten the rest of us, depending on who decided to get involved, and upon what Israel might decide to do with its 300+ nuclear weapons, depending on how threatened it felt. However, a region-wide conflict could be the best outcome for them. Israel would have the reasons (and the chaos) they needed for dealing with their neighbors and whomever they didn't care for within their borders.

A full-on WWIII is another scenario, of course-- one not without the possibility of Israel launching its nukes at everyone in a madman's final gesture.
 

JS80

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They talk to us about the Jewish state, but I respond to them with a final answer: We shall not recognize a Jewish state

Great news, the chance of Israel being forced to agree to a palestinian state went to zero.
 

the DRIZZLE

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Sep 6, 2007
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Keeping it closed is just fine for Israel, because Israel doesn't want a solution; the longer they can keep delaying, the more settlements their fundamentalist fanatics can build and more Palestinians they can drive off, starve or shoot. The U.S.-- despite the whining from Tel Aviv-- effectively facilitates this strategy. The Palestinians have realized that U.S.-led peace talks ultimately are theater designed to perpetuate the status quo. Going directly to the U.N., who generally supports them, is probably the smartest thing they could do. Of course, there is the possibility that, with Palestinian statehood, Israel could then retaliate against their new neighbor with maximum prejudice and impunity to settle the matter once and for all in their favor. Even if they didn't get attacked, they could put on some turbans and cook one up; they've done it before.

And, unfortunately, it all isn't restricted to a bunch of religious nuts in some scrub-brush halfway around the world. They of course threaten the rest of us, depending on who decided to get involved, and upon what Israel might decide to do with its 300+ nuclear weapons, depending on how threatened it felt. However, a region-wide conflict could be the best outcome for them. Israel would have the reasons (and the chaos) they needed for dealing with their neighbors and whomever they didn't care for within their borders.

A full-on WWIII is another scenario, of course-- one not without the possibility of Israel launching its nukes at everyone in a madman's final gesture.

That's odd since most Palestinians believe that if they wait long enough they will get the whole thing because of their rapidly increasing population.
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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Keeping it closed is just fine for Israel, because Israel doesn't want a solution; the longer they can keep delaying, the more settlements their fundamentalist fanatics can build and more Palestinians they can drive off, starve or shoot. The U.S.-- despite the whining from Tel Aviv-- effectively facilitates this strategy. The Palestinians have realized that U.S.-led peace talks ultimately are theater designed to perpetuate the status quo. Going directly to the U.N., who generally supports them, is probably the smartest thing they could do. Of course, there is the possibility that, with Palestinian statehood, Israel could then retaliate against their new neighbor with maximum prejudice and impunity to settle the matter once and for all in their favor. Even if they didn't get attacked, they could put on some turbans and cook one up; they've done it before.

And, unfortunately, it all isn't restricted to a bunch of religious nuts in some scrub-brush halfway around the world. They of course threaten the rest of us, depending on who decided to get involved, and upon what Israel might decide to do with its 300+ nuclear weapons, depending on how threatened it felt. However, a region-wide conflict could be the best outcome for them. Israel would have the reasons (and the chaos) they needed for dealing with their neighbors and whomever they didn't care for within their borders.

A full-on WWIII is another scenario, of course-- one not without the possibility of Israel launching its nukes at everyone in a madman's final gesture.

Funny, arabs are the ones wrapping bombs around their chest blowing themselves in cafes and the Jew is the madman.
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
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That's odd since most Palestinians believe that if they wait long enough they will get the whole thing because of their rapidly increasing population.

They talk to us about the Jewish state, but I respond to them with a final answer: We shall not recognize a Jewish state
 

Broheim

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Feb 17, 2011
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Correct. Though the prices charged by the (monopoly) cable company to junior soldiers in the barracks for cable\internet are criminal. $120 a month for cable and internet for someone making $18k a year... Also they're not allowed to share the internet, that's stealing, and they can and have gotten in trouble for it.

wow that sucks, the Danish army provided me with free TV and internet in my not-so-private-quarters.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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I believe the US Navy was running the USS Liberty technical research ship at the time. I could be wrong. I'm pretty sure the Navy runs all the ships today too.

No they don't. USNS Ships are commanded by the Merchant Marine. However they usually have Sailors and or Marines on board.
 

Jaepheth

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Apr 29, 2006
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Real Americans don't care if other people burn our flag.

A real American produces and manufactures a slow, clean burning flag for export and markets it under the brand "Osama's Choice: Premium Protest Flags"
 

bfdd

Lifer
Feb 3, 2007
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Real Americans don't care if other people burn our flag.

A real American produces and manufactures a slow, clean burning flag for export and markets it under the brand "Osama's Choice: Premium Protest Flags"

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