<< Tex, you really need to learn how to debate better (and admit that you are wrong!) >>
LOL!!!! Thats all you my friend. Well, at least you are still not claiming you made the killing of inncocents statement when the subject came back up again.
But just in case you do:
<< << That is simply barbaric. But I must point out that the attack occured in an israeli settlement on palistinian land. It is these settelments that are IMO causing a lot of problems. Within the past 5 years there are probably 50 new settlements that have popped up on palestinian land. Now if that isn't an occupation i don't know what is.
This makes me sad. Simply fvcking HORRIBLE! >>
And I've heard that israel pays its citizens 20K to live in them as well. >>
That was your excuse.
Now, lets look at when you made the statement you tried to go back to:
I like the wording. "Died from firearms." Do you realize how ridiculous that is?
We can remove suicide. The presense of guns in no way increases the rate of suicide. Even most of the anti-gunners are forced to admit this.
Again, what % of the murders were gang related?
I dont understand your feelings towards the wording of "died from firearms". Simply states the facts, that 3,447 young kids were intentionally killed in 8 years. My reason for posting it was I knew there was inevitebly going to be a reaction from some people here to label the palestinians as an ass-backwards, frothing at the mouth, missed-the-evolution-train society. While that may or may not be true, we've got our own serious problems with violence here in the US as well. Can we characterize all of the US based on Andrea Yates or Susan smith? Or all the gang violence?
Either way, Im not trying to diminish what happened in the west bank. No excuse for killing innocents (and especially children), no matter whether here or in the US.
The subject at hand was firearms that you instigated. There is NO mention of the Palestinian conflict when you made it. And when the subject of Palestinians was at hand, you responded with an excuse
You're busted
<< Lets recap the conversation: >>
Lets do that
You think people who ... are taught from youth that gthe Jews are the "enemy" are sane? >>
First, you truncated my statement. Lets look at the WHOLE statement since it was what I made:
You think people who blow themselves up in crowded civilian areas and are taught from youth that gthe Jews are the "enemy" are sane?
And lets also take into account, I quoted BlipBop, not you.
<< I dont see what that has to do with it. Every population pushes propoganda on their enemy, and neither israel or the US is an exception. I wasnt alive for it, but were not kids growing up during WWII and the cold war basically taught to hate japanese and the commies? You dont think that some israeli's kids are told by their state and their parents that palestinians are "enemies"?
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And lets get my full response.
Really. Name one state sponsored sucide bombing school or one state sponsored school that actively targets a specific people.
Yet you never heard of one sucide bombing by an American or Israeli.
There is a difference.
If you are going to quote me Lucky, quote it ALL, not pieces to make yourself look better.
<< Notice bombing was never mentioned, nor was terrorism. I ONLY took issue with your remark that people who's state teaches them to dislike the "enemy" are not sane. Didnt say anything about state-sponsored anything, just that one particular remark. And what the youth's do with those "teachings" is a different matter and irrevelant to your statement. >>
Well of course you only took issue with specific things. Thats easier And Americans NEVER EVER taught their children to kill communists wherever they were found. Not once. And they NEVER said it was "honorable" to blow themsevles up and kill as many as possible.
Your pathetic attempt at making a clearly insane holy war declaration by the Palestinians and the Communist/ Capatilist comparison is so farfetched, its sad.