Palestinians Murder 4 Jewish Settlers, Wound 7 -- INCLUDING CHILDREN IN THIER BEDS

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Lifer
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I don't follow your logic there.

Are American Indians the same race as the people in England, Rome and Dublin to use your example?

Are the Palestinians the same as the people living in Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq? Why have the people of those countries kept the Palestinians in refugee camps all these many years?
 

SuperTool

Lifer
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<< So you give the green light to target civilians? >>


Civilian is a misnomer. There is nothing civil about what Israeli settlers are doing in Palestinian territories. When they go back to Israel they are civilians, but in West bank, they are settlers and occupiers.
I don't give green light to killing any civilians on recognized Israeli lands, and I believe Israel has a right to defent themselves within their borders, just like any country. But not outside their borders.
 

Texmaster

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<< When there is a conflict of hatred whether or not within the guise of war, civillians are targeted.

A plain and simple FACT.

The USA has "targeted" civillians many of times in the past. I'm sure a lot of children were sleeping in their beds when Hiroshima went up in smoke.

Every country and people have at one time or another.

Get over it.
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That was to prevent the killing of MORE civilians in Japan being killed if a ground battle had been comenced not to mention the 100,000 US soldiers who could have died taking Japan out.

What lives were the sucide bombers saving?
 

Texmaster

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<< So you give the green light to target civilians? >>


Civilian is a misnomer. There is nothing civil about what Israeli settlers are doing in Palestinian territories. When they go back to Israel they are civilians, but in West bank, they are settlers and occupiers.
I don't give green light to killing any civilians on recognized Israeli lands, and I believe Israel has a right to defent themselves within their borders, just like any country. But not outside their borders.
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So, there are civilians you think can be justifibly killed in their sleep.
 

Lucky

Lifer
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<< Makes you look very petty.



hahahahaha!!!! Of all people to say that!

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At least when I admitted I was wrong I didn't tack on a "but". I accepted my mistake as a man.

You chose differently
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You wish!
 

Texmaster

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<<

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<< Makes you look very petty.



hahahahaha!!!! Of all people to say that!

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At least when I admitted I was wrong I didn't tack on a "but". I accepted my mistake as a man.

You chose differently
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You wish!
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LOL Wow what a comeback.
 

SuperTool

Lifer
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<< I don't follow your logic there.

Are American Indians the same race as the people in England, Rome and Dublin to use your example?

Are the Palestinians the same as the people living in Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq? Why have the people of those countries kept the Palestinians in refugee camps all these many years?
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I don't see what race has to do with it. Palestinians belong in Palestine, why should Egypt accept them? Should Egypt now displace it's people to settle Palestinians?
 

UltraQuiet

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<< I don't give green light to killing any civilians on recognized Israeli lands, and I believe Israel has a right to defent themselves within their borders, just like any country. But not outside their borders >>


Se we (U S) are screwed up because we are fighting Al Queda in Afghanistan, Pakistan etc?
 

Lucky

Lifer
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LOL Wow what a comeback.


Well, I have to save my energy for the important stuff, like proving you wrong and forcing you to admit it after an hour of debate.
 

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Lifer
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"I don't see what race has to do with it. Palestinians belong in Palestine, why should Egypt accept them? Should Egypt now displace it's people to settle Palestinians? "

When was the country of Palestine created?

Israel accepted the Iraqi Jews, the Lebanese Jews, the Egyptian Jews etc. and absorbed and setteled them into their society, why didn't the Arab countries accept the Arabs that lived in the region of Palestine?

"The Palestinian refugee problem originated as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, when five Arab armies invaded the State of Israel just hours after it was established. During the ensuing war as many as 700,000 Palestinians left their homes in the newly-created state. Many of the Palestinians who left did so voluntarily to avoid the ongoing war or at the urging of Arab leaders who promised that all who left would return after a quick Arab victory over the new Jewish state. In some cases, Palestinians were forced to flee by individuals or groups fighting for Israel.

Of the Palestinians who left, one third went to the West Bank (then under Jordan's control), one-third to the Gaza Strip (then under Egypt's control), and the remainder to Jordan, Lebanon and Syria. The Arab governments (except for Jordan) refused to consider the absorption and integration of the refugees into their population, insisting that it would undermine the refugees' "right" to return to their home in Palestine. Many of the refugees were settled into refugee camps, a situation that tragically continues to exist over five decades later.
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SuperTool

Lifer
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<<

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<< So you give the green light to target civilians? >>


Civilian is a misnomer. There is nothing civil about what Israeli settlers are doing in Palestinian territories. When they go back to Israel they are civilians, but in West bank, they are settlers and occupiers.
I don't give green light to killing any civilians on recognized Israeli lands, and I believe Israel has a right to defent themselves within their borders, just like any country. But not outside their borders.
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So, there are civilians you think can be justifibly killed in their sleep.
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They are not civilians, they are settlers. How is that so hard to understand. Each one of these people is involved in a process of military occupation, merely by their presence in occupied territories.
Q: Who is occupying the territories? A: Settlers. Get it?
By very definition, they are an occupying party. Now, the kids might not realize that, but their parents should, and they are responsible for their children's safety.
 

Lucky

Lifer
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By very definition, they are an occupying party. Now, the kids might not realize that, but their parents should, and they are responsible for their children's safety.




Perhaps the 20,000 they recieve for settling in the areas makes them look past some things.
 

SuperTool

Lifer
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<< "I don't see what race has to do with it. Palestinians belong in Palestine, why should Egypt accept them? Should Egypt now displace it's people to settle Palestinians? "

When was the country of Palestine created?


"The Palestinian refugee problem originated as a result of the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, when five Arab armies invaded the State of Israel just hours after it was established. During the ensuing war as many as 700,000 Palestinians left their homes in the newly-created state. Many of the Palestinians who left did so voluntarily to avoid the ongoing war or at the urging of Arab leaders who promised that all who left would return after a quick Arab victory over the new Jewish state. In some cases, Palestinians were forced to flee by individuals or groups fighting for Israel.

Of the Palestinians who left, one third went to the West Bank (then under Jordan's control), one-third to the Gaza Strip (then under Egypt's control), and the remainder to Jordan, Lebanon and Syria. The Arab governments (except for Jordan) refused to consider the absorption and integration of the refugees into their population, insisting that it would undermine the refugees' "right" to return to their home in Palestine. Many of the refugees were settled into refugee camps, a situation that tragically continues to exist over five decades later.
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Should we bring all Palestinians to the US? No. So how can we say that all these countries need to absorb the Palestinians into their own lands?
 

Nefrodite

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We are talking about settlers here.
I am sorry, but if you come and build settlements on land that doesn't belong to you, there is no expectation of safety.
If I come to your neigborhood, buldose your homes, throw you and your neighbors out on the street, and then build a settlement and bring all my friends over, you wouldn't take it lying down either.
These people are trespassing on land that doesn't belong to them. I feel bad for the kids, but the parents should have known better than to raise kids in settlements. Isn't Israeli government paying money for people to settle in west bank and to displace palestinians?





oh wait, let me tell this to my american indian friends. they now have a license to kill all white americans oh wait.. spoils of war? oh i'll just ignore that.
 

thirdrail

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<< Perhaps the 20,000 they recieve for settling in the areas makes them look past some things. >>



And now that you've mentioned this twice, it's time that you provide some references to back up this allegation.

I've never heard of this $20k payment. Where have you seen this?
 
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