andrewbabcock
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Didn't people say that like 50 million would die from sars? Tune this BS out. If it does damage, i was wrong but i don't think it will do much damage here.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This has to be God's work, right?
Why would Bush and the Republicans develop a plan that goes against God's wishes???
Many have said the Hurricanes down here was a way God used to cleanse the sin and decadence out.
Well all the recent population control hasn't been enough so get ready for 2 million Americans to be killed:
10-8-2005 U.S. Developing Plan for Flu Pandemic
WASHINGTON - A super-flu could kill up to 1.9 million Americans, according to a draft of the government's plan to fight a worldwide epidemic.
Officials are rewriting that plan to designate not just who cares for the sick but who will keep the country running amid the chaos, said an influenza specialist who is advising the government on those decisions.
"How do you provide food, water ... basic security for the population?" asked Michael Osterholm of the University of Minnesota, a government adviser who has a copy of the draft plan and described it for The Associated Press.
"This is a much more comprehensive view than has previously been detailed," he said in an interview Saturday.
The Bush administration has spent the last year updating its plan for how to fight the next flu pandemic. While it is impossible to say when one will strike, the fear is that the bird flu in Asia could trigger one if it mutates to start spreading easily among people.
If the next pandemic resembles the birdlike 1918 Spanish flu, as many as 1.9 million could die, Osterholm said. Millions more would be ill, overwhelming hospitals.
The government has on hand enough of the anti-flu drug Tamiflu to treat 4.3 million people. Manufacturing of $100 million worth of a bird flu vaccine just began.
Also being considered is the possibility that Tamiflu will not be powerful enough to treat someone already sick, but could protect against illness if given beforehand.
So who would get the 4.3 million doses?
Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt recently met with Cabinet secretaries to get other federal agencies to determine their role in stemming rioting at vaccine clinics; when to close schools; how to keep gasoline, electricity, food and water supplies running; and how to manage the economic fallout.
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I haven't been a loyal Republican so I know I won't be getting a vaccine shot.
WASHINGTON - A super-flu could kill up to 1.9 million Americans, according to a draft of the government's plan to fight a worldwide epidemic.
Pandemic Flu Thread:Bird Flu predicted to kill 1.9 million Americans - 15 Countries now have human deaths 10-10-05
Originally posted by: ExpertNovice
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This has to be God's work, right?
Why would Bush and the Republicans develop a plan that goes against God's wishes???
Many have said the Hurricanes down here was a way God used to cleanse the sin and decadence out.
Well all the recent population control hasn't been enough so get ready for 2 million Americans to be killed:
10-8-2005 U.S. Developing Plan for Flu Pandemic
WASHINGTON - A super-flu could kill up to 1.9 million Americans, according to a draft of the government's plan to fight a worldwide epidemic.
Officials are rewriting that plan to designate not just who cares for the sick but who will keep the country running amid the chaos, said an influenza specialist who is advising the government on those decisions.
"How do you provide food, water ... basic security for the population?" asked Michael Osterholm of the University of Minnesota, a government adviser who has a copy of the draft plan and described it for The Associated Press.
"This is a much more comprehensive view than has previously been detailed," he said in an interview Saturday.
The Bush administration has spent the last year updating its plan for how to fight the next flu pandemic. While it is impossible to say when one will strike, the fear is that the bird flu in Asia could trigger one if it mutates to start spreading easily among people.
If the next pandemic resembles the birdlike 1918 Spanish flu, as many as 1.9 million could die, Osterholm said. Millions more would be ill, overwhelming hospitals.
The government has on hand enough of the anti-flu drug Tamiflu to treat 4.3 million people. Manufacturing of $100 million worth of a bird flu vaccine just began.
Also being considered is the possibility that Tamiflu will not be powerful enough to treat someone already sick, but could protect against illness if given beforehand.
So who would get the 4.3 million doses?
Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt recently met with Cabinet secretaries to get other federal agencies to determine their role in stemming rioting at vaccine clinics; when to close schools; how to keep gasoline, electricity, food and water supplies running; and how to manage the economic fallout.
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I haven't been a loyal Republican so I know I won't be getting a vaccine shot.
I presume you read what you quoted... now let me help you reread.
WASHINGTON - A super-flu could kill up to 1.9 million Americans, according to a draft of the government's plan to fight a worldwide epidemic.
Of course you read super-flu as Bird Flu and you read could (meaning worst case scenario) as predicted.
Pandemic Flu Thread:Bird Flu predicted to kill 1.9 million Americans - 15 Countries now have human deaths 10-10-05
I'm not surprised at the misinterpretation since changing the defniitions has become so Pandemic among liberals that they no loger seem to be able to communicate when to themselves.
Of course you damn the President for planning. I'm SURE you wouldn't damn him if they failed to plan and a super-flu did hit the United States. I'm sure you wouldn't because that would make you a hypocrit. /sarcasm
Maybe he's just sick?Originally posted by: Pabster
Jeez, no big flu updates from Dave in 2 days. This might be a record.
Originally posted by: Cerb
Maybe he's just sick?Originally posted by: Pabster
Jeez, no big flu updates from Dave in 2 days. This might be a record.
Originally posted by: Oric
We have the bird flu problem here in turkey since last week. 9 lab test positive patients .. 3 dead children and about 50 "suspected" cases. It seems that the migratory birds flying over Turkey has bombarded the local bird populations and chickens are dying, getting humans who eat them with them
Troll.Originally posted by: zendari
Damn those evil Rich Republicans and President Bush not dying to the Bird Flu!
BAHAMAS: March 1, 2006
NASSAU - Health experts were dispatched on Tuesday to the southern Bahamas island of Inagua to find out if an unexplained spate of bird deaths was linked to a deadly bird flu virus that is spreading around the globe.
Over the past two days, 15 of the island's famed flamingos, five roseate spoonbills and one cormorant have been found dead with no external injuries on the island just north of Haiti, officials said.
Scientists from the Bahamas Ministry of Agriculture and the Department of Environmental Health will gather samples from the birds and then submit them for laboratory analysis.
"Anything is possible in nature. You have birds that fly around the world," said Minister of Agriculture and Marine Resources Leslie Miller, declining to rule out the H5N1 bird flu strain that has killed at least 93 people and spread to 20 new countries in the past month alone.
"But let's hope to God that that is not the case here in the Bahamas," Miller said.
The H5N1 virus is endemic in birds across parts of Asia but has since spread to Europe and Africa. Experts fear it could mutate into a form more easily passed between humans and trigger a pandemic in which millions could die.
Bahamas National Trust president Glenn Bannister said he had never known such a large number of bird deaths in the Bahamas at one time.
"This is a very large number of birds to be found dead at Inagua. This is highly unusual," he said.
Inagua is the second largest breeding ground for flamingos outside of Africa.
Although the three species affected on the island are not migratory birds, Bannister said they come into contact with geese and ducks that migrate to Inagua during the winter.
"Migrating birds are in Inagua all the time," he said. "Every winter they mix right in with the other birds in the ponds. If this is West Nile or bird flu, it will not be good for our bird population."
Inagua is the southernmost island of the Bahamas chain, lying about 60 miles (100 km) from the northern coast of Haiti. It is a large sparsely populated island known primarily for sea salt production.
Story by John Marquis
REUTERS NEWS SERVICE
[Rich Republican workers will be able to stay home while lowly Democrats will have a lot die off because they have to go to work.
This will ensure another easy victory for the Republicans
Far from the deadliest epidemic.
The Bubonic Plague.
Just mention the name and you will send shivers down the spine of many people.
There is no doubt that this disease was deadly. Deadly and gruesome to watch.
The death rate was 90% for those exposed to the bacterium. It was transmitted by the fleas from infected Old English black rats. The symptoms were clear: swollen lymph nodes (buboes, hence the name), high fever, and delirium. In the worst case, the lungs became infected and the pneumonic form was spread from person to person by coughing, sneezing, or simply talking.
From the time of infection to death was less than one week.
There were three major epidemics - in the 6th, 14th, and 17th centuries.
The death toll was 137 million victims.
As a result, the plague is considered to be the worst epidemic of all time, but it wasn't (not that we are downplaying the severity of the plague).
At its worst, the bubonic plague killed 2 million victims a year.
This is certainly a bad situation, but there is one that is worse.
The pandemic (an epidemic that is spread worldwide) that killed at least 25 million people in one year.
A disease that is largely forgotten.
A disease that occurred in the 20th century!
I know what you're thinking - AID's, Syphilis, or the dreaded Ebola.
All are wrong.
It was the influenza of 1918-1919, right after World War I (the war killed 9 million men in 4 years)
This was no minor disease - everyone on the planet was at risk.
And it was started right here in the good old U. S. of A.
In one year, nearly twenty million cases were reported in the United States, accounting for almost one million deaths.
The cause is still unknown, but is believed to have been a mutated swine virus.
It all started on the morning of March 11, 1918 at Camp Funston, Kansas.
A company cook named Albert Mitchell reported to the infirmary with typical flu-like symptoms - a low-grade fever, mild sore throat, slight headache, and muscle aches. Bed rest was recommended.
By noon, 107 soldiers were sick.
Within two days, 522 people were sick. Many were gravely ill with severe pneumonia.
Then reports started coming in from other military bases around the country.
Thousands of sailors docked off the East Coast were sick.
Within a week, the influenza was hitting isolated places, such as the island of Alcatraz.
Whatever the cause, it was clearly airborne.
Within seven days, every state in the Union had been infected.
Then it spread across the Atlantic.
By April, French troops and civilians were infected.
By mid-April, the disease had spread to China and Japan.
By May, the virus was spread throughout Africa and South America.
The actual killer was the pneumonia that accompanied the infection.
In Philadelphia, 158 out of every 1000 people died. 148 out of 1000 in Baltimore. 109 out of 1000 in Washington, D. C..
The good news (if there was any) was that the disease peaked within two to three weeks after showing up in a given city. It left as quickly as it arrived.
The United States death toll was a total of 850,000 people, making it an area of the world that was least devastated by this virus.
Sixty percent of the Eskimo population was wiped out in Nome, Alaska.
80-90% of the Samoan population was infected, many of the survivors dying from starvation (they lacked the energy to feed themselves).
Luxury ocean liners from Europe would arrive in New York with 7% less passengers than they embarked with. The confined area of the ship was especially conducive to the spread of the disease.
In the end, 25 million people had died. Some estimates put the number as high as 37 million.
Eighteen months after the disease appeared, the flu bug vanished and has never shown up again.
So what happened?
Until recently, no one was really sure. In March of 1997, the news broke that researchers at the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in Washington, D. C. had isolated genetic material from the virus.
This was no easy task. The living virus is no longer around. It turns out that while conducting autopsies in 1918, Army doctors had preserved some specimens in formaldehyde. One of these jars contained the lungs of a 21 year old soldier that died on September 26, 1918.
Bingo!
The researchers spent nearly two years extracting just seven percent of the genetic code, but the evidence gathered has provided a great wealth of information.
It appears that the virus passed from birds to pigs and then to humans. These are the deadliest of all viruses. The viruses tend to remain stable in the birds, but occassionally they infect pigs. Of course, the pig immune system kicks into action and the virus is forced to mutate to survive. Both the Asian flu (1957) and the Hong Kong flu (1968), which were not as deadly, mutated from pig viruses.
The scary part is that it could happen again - and we're not prepared for it.
Useless? Useful? I?ll leave that for you to decide.
Originally posted by: Frackal
[Rich Republican workers will be able to stay home while lowly Democrats will have a lot die off because they have to go to work.
This will ensure another easy victory for the Republicans
Dave you are a Republican hating machine buddy
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Originally posted by: Frackal
[Rich Republican workers will be able to stay home while lowly Democrats will have a lot die off because they have to go to work.
This will ensure another easy victory for the Republicans
Dave you are a Republican hating machine buddy
Nah. He just hates himself for not being successful enough in life and projects his anger on to those that are successful because he is too selfish and arrogant to see any fault in himself or his life decisions.