Pandora....most overhyped service ever?

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trmiv

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Why complain about it? You're likely not paying for it, and using one doesn't prevent you from using something else.

android phone with pandora, slacker, last.fm and mp3's > just mp3's in your car
 

bignateyk

Lifer
Apr 22, 2002
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Slacker sucks compared to Pandora. I've never tried last.fm, so I might give that a shot.

Pandora could be better though.
 

Jzero

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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I use Pandora, Grooveshark and Last.FM where appropriate -

Last.FM has more mainstream stuff and their recommendation engine is based more on genre than actual musical characteristics. This makes for a more varied listening experience in terms of sound/style, but their library means I'm less likely to hear something I've never heard of. I use last.fm when I want "radio" that I can sing along to.

Pandora is pretty much the opposite of last.fm. Recommendations based on musical characteristics sometimes results in a monotonous experience, but I have learned about far more new bands/artists from Pandora than last.fm. I use Pandora when I don't want the music to be a distraction. When something catches me I bookmark it and go back to what I was doing.

I use Grooveshark when I want to be able to cherry-pick the songs/artists I hear.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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pretty epic on my iphone

satellite radio anywhere for free.
 

DrPizza

Administrator Elite Member Goat Whisperer
Mar 5, 2001
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I don't pirate music. I've had Pandora playing since 7:00 this morning. It's on the 129th song; no, make that 130th. A new song is now playing since I started counting. That's $130 worth of music if I was paying 99 cents.

Pandora >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Radio
Commercials are pretty short, same volume, not obnoxious. About one commercial every 4th or 5th song, for only 30 seconds. I don't have to listen to inane conversations between two DJs who think they're being clever, or some DJ rambling for 3 or 4 minutes talking to himself. Far far fewer commercials than any radio station I've listened to, including college stations (college stations seem to have commercials for each other's show more frequently than commercials on pandora), with a possible exception of NPR.

Their music DNA or whatever it is seems to work quite well. After I've been listening for a while, I'll generally go through and either like or dislike each song. It doesn't play the dislike songs again. I've only listened to 4 of the last 15 songs before on Pandora, thus it's pretty obvious that there's an excellent variety of songs. None of the songs played twice today. At this rate, I estimate a variety of at least 1000 songs that I like on this station alone.

I'll believe that you or nearly anyone else have 1000 legal MP3's of relatively popular music around the time that I believe that pigs can fly. I'm not a pirate. And, there's no way I would ever bring in illegally pirated music to work.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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I like Pandora. But their playlists seem messed up lately. Gun n Roses station and The Beach Boys comes on????
 

DrPizza

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I use Pandora, Grooveshark and Last.FM where appropriate -

Last.FM has more mainstream stuff and their recommendation engine is based more on genre than actual musical characteristics. This makes for a more varied listening experience in terms of sound/style, but their library means I'm less likely to hear something I've never heard of. I use last.fm when I want "radio" that I can sing along to.

Pandora is pretty much the opposite of last.fm. Recommendations based on musical characteristics sometimes results in a monotonous experience, but I have learned about far more new bands/artists from Pandora than last.fm. I use Pandora when I don't want the music to be a distraction. When something catches me I bookmark it and go back to what I was doing.

I use Grooveshark when I want to be able to cherry-pick the songs/artists I hear.


Solution to monotonous experience: add a variety of artists to your station. i.e. (these aren't on my station) - Barry Manilow, Doors, AC/DC, The Supremes. You won't get a monotonous experience. Plus, that might be what screws other people up. Next, GenX will be posting "AC/DC and Barry Manilow comes on??!"
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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pretty epic on my iphone

satellite radio anywhere for free.

ohh that would be nice.

At home i can get the stations i enjoy on the radio, internet and such. but traveling is a pain.
 

Ika

Lifer
Mar 22, 2006
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i think i'd use pandora a lot more if I had a smartphone. oh well.
 

Lummex

Senior member
Apr 6, 2008
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I love it. It seems to read my mind at times (though I admit, sometimes something will come on that I really don't like). Listening to it right now
 

Jzero

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Solution to monotonous experience: add a variety of artists to your station. i.e. (these aren't on my station) - Barry Manilow, Doors, AC/DC, The Supremes. You won't get a monotonous experience. Plus, that might be what screws other people up. Next, GenX will be posting "AC/DC and Barry Manilow comes on??!"

I've never liked the results doing that. For instance if I feed Pandora Owen Pallett it occasionally plays John Cale's Paris 1919, which I really like, but if I add John Cale to the actual mix, I feel like the mix becomes way too much Velvet Underground/Lou Reed early protopunk and way too little art-folksy Owen Pallett/Iron And Wine/Hayden/Ellie Come Home.

Maybe I'd get a better result if I fed it Owen Pallett and Paris 1919 (instead of all John Cale since Paris 1919 is fairly unique even for Cale), but generally if it starts to get monotonous I am happy to just pick/start a different station.

Even when it plays something that I intially don't think belongs, I have found that if I consider what it tells me under "Why This Song?" it makes perfect sense.

I don't really get complaints like SunnyD's. Pandora is for "sounds like" as opposed to "is on the shelf next to in the music store". The whole point is to hear other artists/songs than the ones you chose or are related-by-genre - it's a music DISCOVERY service, intended to expand your horizons. If you want to cherry pick songs and artists and not hear anything new, that's what Grooveshark is for. You can't really fault Pandora for not doing what it never said it was going to do in the first place.
 

Gibsons

Lifer
Aug 14, 2001
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I've never liked the results doing that. For instance if I feed Pandora Owen Pallett it occasionally plays John Cale's Paris 1919, which I really like, but if I add John Cale to the actual mix, I feel like the mix becomes way too much Velvet Underground/Lou Reed early protopunk and way too little art-folksy Owen Pallett/Iron And Wine/Hayden/Ellie Come Home.

Maybe I'd get a better result if I fed it Owen Pallett and Paris 1919 (instead of all John Cale since Paris 1919 is fairly unique even for Cale), but generally if it starts to get monotonous I am happy to just pick/start a different station.

Even when it plays something that I intially don't think belongs, I have found that if I consider what it tells me under "Why This Song?" it makes perfect sense.

I don't really get complaints like SunnyD's. Pandora is for "sounds like" as opposed to "is on the shelf next to in the music store". The whole point is to hear other artists/songs than the ones you chose or are related-by-genre - it's a music DISCOVERY service, intended to expand your horizons. If you want to cherry pick songs and artists and not hear anything new, that's what Grooveshark is for. You can't really fault Pandora for not doing what it never said it was going to do in the first place.
I dunno, there's some distinctly odd seemingly non-randomness to what they/it picks. I've got the Who as one of my 10 seed artists, and if a Who song plays, there will be a Beatles and a Rolling Stones song within the previous or following 4-5 tracks. Yesterday, I got the same U2 song twice (2 different live versions) within about 10 tracks, and U2 isn't one of the bands on my list. ISIS is one of my seed bands, and it flipping NEVER plays ISIS. I get about 3x more Pelican, Mogwai, Cave In, Russian Circles and RATM each than I get ISIS. Mind you I do like these bands, but c'mon.

On the other hand it's free.

/weak rant

lol, just started it up, and first song is ISIS.
 

Matilda

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Apr 24, 2006
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I like it a lot but I'm also a big fan of Groove Shark. Because you can stream full albums, legally, including brand new ones.
 
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