Pantlegz's Workout Journal

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Pantlegz

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Jun 6, 2007
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Squats:
10x45
10x135
5x225
5x315
5x405
3x455
1x495
1x545
1x560
fx575

Good mornings:
10x135
3x10x225

Leg Press:
3x10x665

back raises:
3x15

Wasn't feeling it yesterday, got to the gym a bit late and hadn't eaten all day which probably isn't a good thing when you're going heavy with squats. My hips never really warmed up like I would have liked even after 5 min of walking. I thought even 545 was going to be rough initially but 455/495 both went fine beltless. Not all that upset about the end result, I'll be sure to prep a little better for the next time.
 

TallBill

Lifer
Apr 29, 2001
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Forget lifting without food lol. I need at least 2,500 calories before I consider lifting.
 

Pantlegz

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Forget lifting without food lol. I need at least 2,500 calories before I consider lifting.

I normally lift Sunday without eating much, I typically don't eat breakfast so it's not a big deal but I didn't get to the gym until well after noon and had my first meal of the day at like 3:00pm. I don't know how much it actually effected my lifts, I think it was my hips being tight more than anything but I'm sure running no empty didn't help anything.


pantlegs do you have any experience with syntrax matrix or protizyme?

No, I've gone over what supplements I'm taking several times. I haven't heard of either of these. I'm a less is more kind of guy, unless there are extensive studies on the subject I'll avoid them for the most part and even if there are I'm a bit iffy. With that said, I am ordering PQQ with my orange triad to try for a couple months to see what it does.
 

Zivic

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pantlegs do you have any experience with syntrax matrix or protizyme?

just over priced proteins with fancy labels/names... they are essentially just the same whey you can get for less money.

do people not realize that the sups don't really matter that much? especially when you are talking whey vs whey. If you were an elite competitor, I mean top 1%, it 'might' make a difference if you took protizyme vs dymatize. Unless you are at the top 1%, have elite genetics, and have absolutely all your ducks in the row it isn't going to make one bit of difference if you suck down a $7/lb protein or a $20+/lb protein.

Eat a proper meal plan > train hard > proper rest ... you aren't doing those, forget about stupid protein
 

TallBill

Lifer
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I'd be curious as to the explanation of why some people can exercise without caloric intake.

As far as supps go, I'm in the same boat. Creatine, bcaas, eaas, and thats it.
 

Zivic

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I'd be curious as to the explanation of why some people can exercise without caloric intake.

As far as supps go, I'm in the same boat. Creatine, bcaas, eaas, and thats it.

Your body has stored energy. Glycogen is stored in your liver. I have heard upwards of 48 hrs worth. You can workout in a fasted state
 

norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
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just over priced proteins with fancy labels/names... they are essentially just the same whey you can get for less money. do people not realize that the sups don't really matter that much? especially when you are talking whey vs whey. If you were an elite competitor, I mean top 1%, it 'might' make a difference if you took protizyme vs dymatize. Unless you are at the top 1%, have elite genetics, and have absolutely all your ducks in the row it isn't going to make one bit of difference if you suck down a $7/lb protein or a $20+/lb protein. Eat a proper meal plan > train hard > proper rest ... you aren't doing those, forget about stupid protein


syntrax matrix was half the price and had egg and wheat proteins plus higher amounts of many amino acids

so i went with that


do you have anything to say about this?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=410568


i think i found out the reason why the bodytech whey was giving me inflammation. the syntrax matrix seems far less infammatory for me and when i smell the bodytech whey i can smell a really strong sweet smell

thinking it is the splenda
 

TallBill

Lifer
Apr 29, 2001
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Your body has stored energy. Glycogen is stored in your liver. I have heard upwards of 48 hrs worth. You can workout in a fasted state

Mine cannot. If I woke up and squatted compared to squatting after a few meals, it'll be a major difference.
 

Zivic

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Mine cannot. If I woke up and squatted compared to squatting after a few meals, it'll be a major difference.

we all have situations where we perform better.

If I squat in mid afternoon vs the morning, I will handle 10-20% more weight.

saying you cannot is being a bit dramatic. You will obviously peform better with a few meals in your belly, but to say you 'cannot' workout in a fasted state is a stretch
 

norseamd

Lifer
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we all have situations where we perform better.

If I squat in mid afternoon vs the morning, I will handle 10-20% more weight.

saying you cannot is being a bit dramatic. You will obviously peform better with a few meals in your belly, but to say you 'cannot' workout in a fasted state is a stretch

agree
 

Zivic

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not sure what you are looking for?

buy a protein from a reputable brand that meets your budget and taste requirements. It isn't going to be the make it or break it thing I feel like you are making it out to be.

for me, I use a whey concentrate for snacks/general protein and a hydrolized isolate after a workout. I am in the best shape of my life and I am probably supplementing with less protein than at anytime in the last ~20 yrs I have trained (save for the first 2-3 yrs when I first started out). I am taking one shake after I workout and 'maybe' 2 other supplemented whey shakes a week. so I am supplementing about 7-9 shakes TOTAL a week. so out of all the protein I consume at most 9 x 40 = 360 grams a week are from whey. I consume 250+ grams a day to put that into perspective

It is all about what actual food you are eating. That's where your effort needs to be focused if you want to have any sort of success.
 

norseamd

Lifer
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not sure what you are looking for?

buy a protein from a reputable brand that meets your budget and taste requirements. It isn't going to be the make it or break it thing I feel like you are making it out to be.

for me, I use a whey concentrate for snacks/general protein and a hydrolized isolate after a workout. I am in the best shape of my life and I am probably supplementing with less protein than at anytime in the last ~20 yrs I have trained (save for the first 2-3 yrs when I first started out). I am taking one shake after I workout and 'maybe' 2 other supplemented whey shakes a week. so I am supplementing about 7-9 shakes TOTAL a week. so out of all the protein I consume at most 9 x 40 = 360 grams a week are from whey. I consume 250+ grams a day to put that into perspective

It is all about what actual food you are eating. That's where your effort needs to be focused if you want to have any sort of success.

right now a dietary protein blend powder and a post workout protein powder


just started working out again and i will want something for post workout

no need for pre workout yet i think


i was thinking about getting some hydro builder for post workout after i use up my isopure and any whey protein i still have around

i need a good protein powder for general nutrition so i do not eat so much fat and salt
 

Pantlegz

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Bench Press:
10x135
5x225
5x245
5x275
2x315

Close grip bench press:
11x225
12x225
9x225

Incline DB Press:
2x20x45

Press:
10x45
10x90
3x8x135
2x4x155

Triceps pushdown:
4x20x140

Weighted 24" box jumps:
3x10x70

Front Squats:
5x135
2x5x225

Nothing worse than volume chest work. The good thing is 315 felt much lighter than last week. Presses didn't go quite as well after burning my chest out but I made up for it by upping the weight a bit for less reps at the end. Front squats were just to kill time while I waited for a bench to open up. I also need to add weight to my box jumps, 70 isn't enough of a challenge.
 

Pantlegz

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Deadlift:
10x45
5x135
5x225
5x315
6x2x405
3x12x315

HB squats:
5x45
8x135
8x225
3x8x315


Skipped out on some accessory work but it was late and I was hungry. Nothing too crazy here, deads felt light squats kind of always suck after deadlifting but they weren't that awful.
 

Pantlegz

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squats:
10x45
10x135
5x225
5x315
5x405
2x515
3x8x335 - wide stance

Pallof Press:
3x10x120

Fuck these forums, had to retype this 5 times... 515 was light and beltless in tennis shoes.
 

Pantlegz

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Bench Press:
10x135
8x175
5x225
5x2x245

DB Bench Press:
15x55
15x65
15x75

DB Press:
10x55
10x60
10x70

Triceps pushdown:
3x10x200

Front Squat:
10x45
10x135
5x225
5x235
5x245

Flys:
3x10x55
 

Pantlegz

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Deadlifts:
10x45
10x135
5x225
5x315
5x405
3x455
1x495
1x545
3xfx585
5x545

Not at all happy with the deadlifts yesterday, got very close to 585 a couple times but it flew up the last time I hit it. I was hoping to get 605 without straps and 650ish with them but that just wasn't happening.
 

Pantlegz

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Yesterday:
Squats:
10x0
10x45
10x135
5x225
5x315
5x405
3x455
1x495
1x545

Bench Press:
10x45
10x135
5x185
5x225
5x275
1x315
1x335
1x365

Ugh, I believe I've self-diagnosed myself with high hamstring tendinopathy which is proving to be a huge pain in the ass. I took all last week off and it was feeling pretty good going into squats yesterday but 545 was WAY too hard and decided to call it a day with the lower body so I didn't even touch deadlifts. Bench felt great, and I think 365 is a PR or at least tied my old PR. The hamstring feels much better today after BJJ - I took the week off there too. Hopefully between rolling again, massage and foam rolling at home it'll get better sooner than later. This is pretty good timing to try to article T-Nation put out the other day on a 4 week chest routine. Just squat/deadlift light-ish working of form and keeping my flexibility and really hit my chest while I let this heal up.

Also getting much more serious on my diet, rather than just eyeballing measurements and not really having a weekly menu planned out I'm weighing everything and trying to keep a weekly menu up and running. I might change it around a little initially but 5k calories on workout days, 4k on Saturday. In working everything out I found my protein was way high, carbs were lower than they should have been and fat was lacking quite a bit. I was actually only getting 3-3.5k calories in a day. I don't know if bumping up is going to fix anything or not. More leanness it the end goal of correcting this, I figure I'll check my progress every week or two and adjust as needed, I feel that 5k is going to take my fat in the wrong direction but if I was at a 1350 or or calorie deficit on a daily basis it might have been hindering my fat loss and the only reason I wasn't more catabolic was shitty carbs and a ton of protein - both of which I'm correcting. Not that the goal is going catabolic but burning fat would be nice even if it means losing a little mass.
 

Pantlegz

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Tuesday:
Clap pushups:
3x6

Bench Press:
10x45
10x135
5x225
5x275
4x3x315

Bench press iso hold:
3x10 seconds x405

Curls:
4x10x80

Today:
10x45
10x135
5x225
5x245
5x275
6x315

Incline DB Press:
10x65
10x75
8x85

Curls:
3x10x70

Dips:
3x10

Overall just hitting chest is going ok, it's taking some getting used to but 315 today felt great I went into it thinking 3-4 but no more than 6. Sunday I'll try squatting a bit again to see how my hamstring takes it. BJJ tournament this weekend too which should be fun, luckily I don't need too much of my left hip mobility most of the time and if I fail, it will be because I couldn't move right.

My diet has been tough to keep up. Breakfast is fine, lunch I can't get down. Even cutting the portions down in about half it's difficult. I've been doing half at lunch and the other half pre workout then dinner post workout. I'm pooping a lot more, don't feel any fatter and I might be sleeping better. I thought bumping the calories up that much that I'd put on a good deal of fat and drop the calories but so far it's ok. I think I may drop about 600 calories just to make lunch smaller. I also haven't been taking the one shake on the menu because I ran out of whey because I wasn't using it much I had run low and didn't realize it. I'm not sure I know what I'm doing but we'll see...
 

norseamd

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Do you know if some caffiene is bad for post-workout?

Not that much and I am not gulping the drink down.

The drink is VPX Bang.

Drinking it for the creatine and bcaas and glutamine.

This just came up on my subscribed list so i figured I would just ask you.
 

Pantlegz

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Do you know if some caffiene is bad for post-workout?

Not that much and I am not gulping the drink down.

The drink is VPX Bang.

Drinking it for the creatine and bcaas and glutamine.

This just came up on my subscribed list so i figured I would just ask you.
No idea, I wouldn't think so but why wouldn't you take it pre rather than post?
 
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