Parents Suing Nissan After Dad Accidentally Runs Over Their Daughter

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Armitage

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: waggy
I really wish i was on that jury. i would be fighting tooth and nail for them to lose.

I have a 2 year old myself. when im backing up and my daughter is not in my car i make sure she is not behind me. If i know she is outside and i can not see her i do not move.

If i think she might be behind me i get out and check (also helps so i dont run over toys).

I have NO sympathy for this family and hope they lose and get stuck with court cost.

No sympathy? No sympathy for somebody that killed their own child? That's pretty cold.

Again, does ANYONE but me think that MAYBE the lawsuit isn't about money or "blame" but moreso to help raise some sort of awareness for people? Specifially from this paragraph in the article:

Seeking something positive from her loss, Mrs. Clemens, 39, quit her job managing a dental office and began the Adrianna's Rule Foundation to increase awareness about vehicle design deficiencies that result in child deaths. She launched a Web site and hosted a golf tournament last month to raise money for her cause.

Now if she was REALLY after cold hard cash or point finger of blame do you think she'd go through all those motions? I don't think the really plan on winning this suit, but maybe.... JUST MAYBE some good will come out of it, whether it be in awarness or the manufacturers doing something to aid in visibility. And hey... if they win, they will likley be as surpise as anyone, but happy as pigs in sh!t

The vehicle design is not deficient. The vehicle operators are. Unless you are driving a glass bubble, you can't possibly see everything you might run over. It is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to ensure that you can't possibly run over something important.
 

RiDE

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: waggy
I really wish i was on that jury. i would be fighting tooth and nail for them to lose.

I have a 2 year old myself. when im backing up and my daughter is not in my car i make sure she is not behind me. If i know she is outside and i can not see her i do not move.

If i think she might be behind me i get out and check (also helps so i dont run over toys).

I have NO sympathy for this family and hope they lose and get stuck with court cost.

No sympathy? No sympathy for somebody that killed their own child? That's pretty cold.

Again, does ANYONE but me think that MAYBE the lawsuit isn't about money or "blame" but moreso to help raise some sort of awareness for people? Specifially from this paragraph in the article:

Seeking something positive from her loss, Mrs. Clemens, 39, quit her job managing a dental office and began the Adrianna's Rule Foundation to increase awareness about vehicle design deficiencies that result in child deaths. She launched a Web site and hosted a golf tournament last month to raise money for her cause.

Now if she was REALLY after cold hard cash or point finger of blame do you think she'd go through all those motions? I don't think the really plan on winning this suit, but maybe.... JUST MAYBE some good will come out of it, whether it be in awarness or the manufacturers doing something to aid in visibility. And hey... if they win, they will likley be as surpise as anyone, but happy as pigs in sh!t

Awareness for people? Responsible parents would already be aware of that blind spot in their vehicle and would make sure they don't lose track of a 2 year old. It was already an option on the car they bought. Just by reading that article, nowhere do they admit that she wasn't paying attention to where her daughter went. In her website all she says is she looked down and her daughter is gone. This lawsuit is riding on nothing but emotion and denial to admit their fault.
 

Runes911

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:roll:

To further show how irresponsible they are, check out their donations page. As far as I can tell its unsecure while asking for your credit card if you want to donate.

EDIT: Doh AntiEverything beat me to it.
 

AntiEverything

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Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: phantom309
Originally posted by: jjones
Holy crap. Can't deal with the responsibility for having killed their own kid, so they have do whatever they can to make it someone else's fault. Good thing they are so idiotic that they removed their own offspring from the gene pool.
It's threads like these that remind me how young a lot of you are.
QFT no question. Have a kid of your own and then post that
Actually, jjones IS a parent.
I'm a parent also and I agree with jjones. My daughter is almost 6, and I have to constantly remind her that playing around cars is dangerous. Pisses me off something fierce, she's a fairly smart kid but for some damn reason she can't get some things through her head and she still thinks it's cute to hide behind cars so she can "scare me".

But I'll be damned if I don't know EXACTLY where she is every time I get in the car. She's either in the car with me, or I can see her in front of the car.
 

Rudee

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Originally posted by: Sqube
Originally posted by: Rudee
Seeing as though backup cameras point behind the bumper, not behind the rear wheels, it would not have made a bit of difference.

That doesn't matter! There's no time for logic! This is for the children!!!


lol.

 

Kelemvor

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And considering there are plenty of vehicles that DO have cameras and sensors.. I think the parents should be sued and thrown in jail for not buying the right vehicle.

I sure hope this gets throw out but knowing the retarded "justice" system we have, I wouldn't be surprised if they won millions.
 

nellienelson1

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so what would this guy have done 5 years ago before rear cameras were invented, sued the research people for not inventing them soon enough before he screwed up?
 

Triumph

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My mom's dead, I ain't suing anybody. Now maybe if I had killed her, it'd be a different story. Maybe then I'd feel like suing someone.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: phantom309
Originally posted by: jjones
Holy crap. Can't deal with the responsibility for having killed their own kid, so they have do whatever they can to make it someone else's fault. Good thing they are so idiotic that they removed their own offspring from the gene pool.

It's threads like these that remind me how young a lot of you are.


QFT no question. Have a kid of your own and then post that

Actually, jjones IS a parent.

And well older than the ATOT average. He's just speaking truthfully.
 

shuan24

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actually, the parent is suing to divert the attention on to him. The father's alterior motives are quite transparent, and hopefully their local DA will catch on and send his ass to jail.
 

DrPizza

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My invention to prevent such deaths:

IQ tests and more rigorous driving tests for owners.

I'm sorry about the death of your daughter, parents. But, if it were up to me, your negligence in checking behind the vehicle is more than sufficient to realize you're simply not qualified to drive that vehicle safely. Perhaps it's not a matter of intelligence, but of laziness. But, whatever.
 

shuan24

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wow gotta love the argument, "you have no say unless you have kids and/or it happens to you"

Hmmm why not apply that logic to everything else in life. You have no say in abortion unless you actually have one, you have no say in drunk driving unless you are the victim of it, etc.... :roll:
 

Aquila76

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I can see lobbying congress and petitioning the car makers to get a safety device added, but suing them? Just a further waste on our already overstrained court system.

Two questions:

1. What happened to 'personal responsibility'?

2. Why does the family need a giant SUV with horrible sight lines to bus around one kid?
 

ToeJam13

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Thank you Darwin!


SUVs suck.
SUV owners suck.
One less future SUV owner.

EDIT: besides which, you don't need a friggen camera. Many SUVs now come with bumper mounted radar that is enabled when you're in reverse. A camera and LCD screen is expensive. That, and LCD screens should be banned from cars. Trying to read GPS directions while driving. Bah.
 

Bryophyte

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The parents say that Nissan was aware of the blind spots...were the parents NOT aware of the blind spots? Why weren't they concerned about it when they chose to buy the vehicle?
 

Amused

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I honestly cannot believe ANYONE is arguing in favor of these idiots.
 

QuitBanningMe

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Originally posted by: ToeJam13
Thank you Darwin!


SUVs suck.
SUV owners suck.
One less future SUV owner.

EDIT: besides which, you don't need a friggen camera. Many SUVs now come with bumper mounted radar that is enabled when you're in reverse. A camera and LCD screen is expensive. That, and LCD screens should be banned from cars. Trying to read GPS directions while driving. Bah.

Blasphemy.

 

Bryophyte

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Originally posted by: Amused
I honestly cannot believe ANYONE is arguing in favor of these idiots.

Neither can I. I feel sorry for them for losing a child in such a way. Their grief and guilt must be unbelievable. But to argue that they aren't responsible and that the automaker is is just ridiculous.
 

ToeJam13

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: ToeJam13
Thank you Darwin!


SUVs suck.
SUV owners suck.
One less future SUV owner.

Way to generalize like the moron you are.

SUVs, like any other large vehicle, have increased dangers. Its not just the blind spot behind the vehicle, it?s the blind spots in the rear corners. These blind spots are made worse when people install lift kits on their vehicles. Some of the largest SUVs can not see compact cars that have been lowered when driving parallel to said SUV.

I have personally seen SUVs pull into adjacent lanes when a small car was already there.

I have personally seen SUVs tip over when cornering too hard.

I have a friend who was rear ended by an SUV that couldn't stop due to its weight in a situation where a car would have.

I have dings in my door because the SUV owner in the spot next to me can barely fit into his stall. Given that I telecommute and rarely drive, and that the paint chips match his SUV's color, it's safe to say that he caused the dings.

SUVs are just as safe as any other car when driven by someone trained to drive vehicles of that class. Most US drivers are not specifically trained to handle a SUV. Most US drivers never receive refresher courses in how to safely drive a SUV. Most US drivers suck at driving to begin with, making them even more dangerous behind the wheel of a SUV.

As such, I stand by my claim above.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: Amused
I honestly cannot believe ANYONE is arguing in favor of these idiots.

Law schools graduate tens of thousands of these vermin every year.
 

getbush

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Ok, which one of us posted this on the guestbook at adriannasrule.com:

Hey Amber, I hate to spoil the party, but the SUV that daddy ran over his little girl with did have an option for a rear camera. They chose not to get it.
And even if it did have the camera, what's to say the girl wouldn't have been playing under the the rear passenger wheel, where she wouldn't be seen by the camera anyway.
Fact is, this is negligent parenting. Not negligent manufacturing.

I swear it wasn't me, the pictures of the girl made me sad. For a minute.
 
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