Parents want child with peanut allergy removed from school

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bignateyk

Lifer
Apr 22, 2002
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I've got a peanut allergy and even I think that is absurd. If you are THAT allergic to something, you probably shouldn't be in such a risky environment. I wouldn't risk my kids well-being by sending him/her to a school if they had such a severe allergy.

You can't inconvenience hundreds of other kids for the sake of one. It would be different if it was just a matter of spending some money and installing a ramp or something, but this is affecting everyone at the school. They need to find a special needs school or do home schooling.

The parents are the ones subjecting their kid to all this humiliation as well. They should be the ones to recognize the situation.
 

God Mode

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Jul 2, 2005
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I have to side with the protesters. Extra accommodations and courtesy for special needs people are fine but to force everyone to walk on thin ice for this one kid will cause resentment and hatred. Also, I would want to avoid as many potential lawsuits as I can and a very sick person can be a legal nightmare if something does go wrong.
 
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TridenT

Lifer
Sep 4, 2006
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this

there are loads of studies coming out saying those working with infants, the elderly,m and in hospitals should be using wipes ETC that much. and that the society getting all antibacterial is hurting us as a whole

I don't really see how not using them is going to really work. I think bacteria are always going to get stronger... it's just a matter of where you draw the line on "do we let bacteria fester and kill off humanity or do we value human life and kill the bacteria...?"

Eventually bacteria will become so godly that it can wipe out all of humanity. Just needs enough time... man can never rival it. We evolve too slow.
 

dpodblood

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May 20, 2010
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Wow people have some pretty ignorant views on how allergies work. First of all allergens do not equal germs. If you're a germaphobe who washes their hand's 1000 times per day it does not put you more or less at risk to have an allergy. Secondly a peanut allergy is almost always lifelong thing. 99.9% of the time someone can not simply "grow out of it." Thirdly an epi-pen doesn't "solve" anything. They are used simply to help someone survive long enough to get them to the hospital; they are not a magic cure by any means.

That said the school may be going a bit overboard in this case. Banning peanuts, and regular hand washing I can agree with, but mouth rinsing may be going overboard. If the girl is really "deathly allergic" maybe it's in her best interests to be home schooled, or go to a private school that can accommodate her needs.

The protests are another matter entirely. This is the kind of thing that should be debated in a public meeting, not in front of the school where the girl and her parents are forced to see it. Pretty fucking insensitive IMO.
 

MikeyLSU

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Dec 21, 2005
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I disagree with protests. send letters, call the school board, but dont' protest at the school.

But I also disagree with the way it is being handled. I just can't agree with banning a substance because a student has an allergy to it. What if another kid is allergic to grains? Do we ban all breads/pasta?

Then I would ask, how do you draw the line at how allergic you have to be?

To me, if you are allergic to the smell of something, you need to take yourself out of the situation. That is too risky for the child even with all the precautions being done.
 

MarkXIX

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Jan 3, 2010
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My kid was almost assaulted in her classroom one day when I sent her to class with a small snack sized container of Reese's Peanut Butter Puffs. Peanut allergies must suck for those that have them, but it shouldn't mean that everyone around them suffers too.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Then I would ask, how do you draw the line at how allergic you have to be?

To me, if you are allergic to the smell of something, you need to take yourself out of the situation. That is too risky for the child even with all the precautions being done.

as a parent if my child was so allergic to something that it being in the air could kill her i would nto let her in public school. why? because 6 yr olds don't think "oh this peanut shell i just cracked might kill john. i better not eat it" its "shit i want this but i can get in trouble. so i better hide it really well"
 

RPD

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Jul 22, 2009
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Good, now explain why.

Because your child can't have peanuts?
Because a mere 30 minutes of class time are used to clean the place up?

Again I don't have an opinion on the kid being homeschooled or not, but protesting the issue is flat out fucking retarded. All this is is the usual false sense of entitlement that parents these days have. "You can't tell my child they can't have peanuts!"

Protesting something so trivial is just extremely pathetic. It doesn't matter if they've gone through the chain of command to get it changed. Protesting is not an answer for this situation. Sounds like some fat-ass stay at home (read: lazy) moms didn't have anything better to do.

Holy fuck you are dumb. It's not trivial, it's 30min a day EVERY day. Maybe we should dock your pay that much every day times the amount of people that have to sit around while they do this, plus cover the cost to do this via labor, the peanut sniffing dog (seriously these things exist?) all the while I'm sure this school is just SWIMMING in extra money to do all this. I hear that's a common problem these days, schools with too much money. I also hear public schools having tons of extra time to teach the required material.

What planet do you even live on?
 
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RPD

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Jul 22, 2009
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My kid was almost assaulted in her classroom one day when I sent her to class with a small snack sized container of Reese's Peanut Butter Puffs. Peanut allergies must suck for those that have them, but it shouldn't mean that everyone around them suffers too.

I know it's almost like the smoking situation, but with the roles reversed (granted one is a condition and the other is a choice, but you get the idea).
 

Beev

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Apr 20, 2006
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Holy fuck you are dumb. It's not trivial, it's 30min a day EVERY day. Maybe we should dock your pay that much every day times the amount of people that have to sit around while they do this, plus cover the cost to do this via labor, the peanut sniffing dog (seriously these things exist?) all the while I'm sure this school is just SWIMMING in extra money to do all this. I hear that's a common problem these days, schools with too much money. I also hear public schools having tons of extra time to teach the required material.

What planet do you even live on?

Wow, I think we are just on way different pages here...

I'm aware it's 30 minutes everyday. 30 minutes is a drop in the bucket for 7 hours of school. Why would I be docked pay while I wiped stuff down? When I was in highschool my computer teacher made the whole class wipe down their keyboards with those Lysol wipes. Didn't take 30 minutes, of course, but it was still an extra step that every student did. I'd suggest making the kids wipe down their general vicinity, but I'm sure the parents here (and the ones in the article) will smite me for proposing such a ridiculous idea for their poor, unfortunate children.

Do I really need to say that, again, I do not have an opinion on the student being homeschooled? I just think protesting is ridiculous and every protesting parents needs a punch in the face.
 

chusteczka

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Apr 12, 2006
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I remember eating peanuts with raisins while sitting in class. Probably everyone over the age of 30 has eaten peanut products in school. It seems this allergy has only existed for the last 20 years or so. What has changed in our society to have created this peanut allergy?

A peanut allergy is not a natural allergy. Something has created this. Websites mention the cause is unknown while one website mentions vaccinations as the cause. Work needs to be done to find and remove the cause.

At the same time, that girl with the peanut allergy needs to go away and quit disrupting class. Not with a publicly funded teacher for home schooling. That girl should not be a public problem.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Look at the handbook. This darwin failure kid is causing a disruption in class and should be expelled. Seriously, she is disrupting the classroom and education just from being there. Maybe the parents should try that route, because bending over backwards for this one kid is flat out wrong.
 

DaWhim

Lifer
Feb 3, 2003
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the parents should probably home school this girl. the girl is very special, how about special ed?
 

RPD

Diamond Member
Jul 22, 2009
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Wow, I think we are just on way different pages here...

I'm aware it's 30 minutes everyday. 30 minutes is a drop in the bucket for 7 hours of school. Why would I be docked pay while I wiped stuff down? When I was in highschool my computer teacher made the whole class wipe down their keyboards with those Lysol wipes. Didn't take 30 minutes, of course, but it was still an extra step that every student did. I'd suggest making the kids wipe down their general vicinity, but I'm sure the parents here (and the ones in the article) will smite me for proposing such a ridiculous idea for their poor, unfortunate children.

Do I really need to say that, again, I do not have an opinion on the student being homeschooled? I just think protesting is ridiculous and every protesting parents needs a punch in the face.

Because it's an unnecessary 30min per day. And no its not a drop in the bucket for school. You'd be docked because you obviously think it's no big deal, so why don't you pay for it in lost wages (get it, they lose time learning). I wouldn't personally protest because I'd pull my kid from that school and possibly move to an entirely new district because this instance alone shows how dumb the staff is there and just shows how poorly they'd handle other situations. But by just saying protesting is dumb, you're contributing to laying down and rolling over to accept whatever life hands you, which is a bad outlook on life.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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I remember eating peanuts with raisins while sitting in class. Probably everyone over the age of 30 has eaten peanut products in school. It seems this allergy has only existed for the last 20 years or so. What has changed in our society to have created this peanut allergy?

A peanut allergy is not a natural allergy. Something has created this. Websites mention the cause is unknown while one website mentions vaccinations as the cause. Work needs to be done to find and remove the cause.

At the same time, that girl with the peanut allergy needs to go away and quit disrupting class. Not with a publicly funded teacher for home schooling. That girl should not be a public problem.

Hypercleanliness and antibacterial everything/everywhere.
 

highland145

Lifer
Oct 12, 2009
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I remember eating peanuts with raisins while sitting in class. Probably everyone over the age of 30 has eaten peanut products in school. It seems this allergy has only existed for the last 20 years or so. What has changed in our society to have created this peanut allergy?

A peanut allergy is not a natural allergy. Something has created this. Websites mention the cause is unknown while one website mentions vaccinations as the cause. Work needs to be done to find and remove the cause.
I'm older that most here(47) and I never heard of a peanut allergy growing up. Anyone else have an idea what gives. Maybe the allergic kids all died during my childhood.
Hypercleanliness and antibacterial everything/everywhere.
Maybe.
 

Lalakai

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Nov 30, 1999
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we have similiar situation with youngest daughter; she's allergic to chocolate, and highly allergic to nuts. We keep eppi pen at school with medical release for school to use. Lunch room knows about situation they have already id'd all foods with nuts/chocolates, or made in factory that contains nuts, and they make sure she doesn't get one by mistake. She's in class with everyone else, and they all know to avoid contacting her with items that could cause allergic reaction. fortunately she's a bit older, and has learn to read ingrediants on everything. She goes on bus trips, school trips, sleep-overs; ie, perfectly normal life except she has learned what to look for. It's our responsibility as parents to teach her that; the school works with us on it, but it doesn't disrupt their flow.

should the little girl in the thread be taken out of school? no.

should the school be responsible for seeing that the little girl doesn't come into contact with items that would cause allergice reaction..........not 100%, or even close to the level that they currently apply.

overall, i think both the parents and school are over reacting and using valuable resources in an unnecessary fashion.

i am slightly curious though, if the school requires the children in the class to clean their mouths (if i remember correctly) before getting close to the child, what do the parents do when the child is out in public, such as a mall??
 

Zargon

Lifer
Nov 3, 2009
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A peanut allergy is not a natural allergy. Something has created this. Websites mention the cause is unknown while one website mentions vaccinations as the cause. Work needs to be done to find and remove the cause.

that website probably claims they cause autism too :sneaky:
 

her209

No Lifer
Oct 11, 2000
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If the family is "forced" to home school their daughter, then should they have to pay taxes that go towards paying for school she can't attend?
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Can't they just give the kid claritin or some sort of allergy meds on a daily basis to prevent peanuts from being such a threat?
 
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