Parents want child with peanut allergy removed from school

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BoomerD

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I think everyone involved should just sit down and discuss this like calm, rational adults.

Here, have a cookie...

 

edro

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There is too much risk involved to even think about sending her to public school.
She could make contact with peanuts before the classroom, in the hallway.

It's like putting retards in with the regular class.
All it does is center the attention on them and takes away from the rest of the class.

Her parents should be ashamed.
 

HumblePie

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Which article? The one in the OP where medical experts dispute the severity, or the wikipedia link you posted where it is directly stated that many medical experts dispute the severity of airborne or external exposure? I can't really find any article that supports the notion that someone is likely to die from anaphylaxis within minutes of any form of exposure as you contend.

from the wiki.

It is a type 1 hypersensitivity reaction to dietary substances from peanuts causing an overreaction of the immune system which in a small percentage of people may lead to severe physical symptoms. It is estimated to affect 0.4-0.6% of the population.[1] In England, an estimated 4,000 people are newly diagnosed with peanut allergy per year (11 per day); 25,700 having been diagnosed with peanut allergy by a clinician at some point in their lives.[2]

The most severe peanut allergies can result in anaphylaxis,[3]

So a small percentage of the population 0.4-0.6% will have severe physic symptoms to peanuts. There are also other possible compounding factors such as being an Asthmatic.

Why? because exposure to peanut can cause severe symptoms in some people which includes their airway passages closing down.

Still from the wiki.

That said, some activities such as cooking or large-scale shelling or crushing of peanuts (such as in a farming or factory production environment) can cause particles to become airborne, and can have respiratory effects to allergic individuals who are nearby.
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Now kids bringing PB&J sandwiches should not cause her to go into anaphylactic shock. Contact with peanut oil or residue should only cause skin irritations in even those with the most extreme forms of the allergy. However, there is a chance she doesn't know she has peanut residue on her hands for a little bit and either sticks said residue in her eyes, nose or moth (since most people wipe their faces all the time without thinking about it). While simple exposure to her skin may not cause problems, it can if it gets into an orifice.
 

bfdd

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Good, now explain why.

Because your child can't have peanuts?
Because a mere 30 minutes of class time are used to clean the place up?

Again I don't have an opinion on the kid being homeschooled or not, but protesting the issue is flat out fucking retarded. All this is is the usual false sense of entitlement that parents these days have. "You can't tell my child they can't have peanuts!"

Protesting something so trivial is just extremely pathetic. It doesn't matter if they've gone through the chain of command to get it changed. Protesting is not an answer for this situation. Sounds like some fat-ass stay at home (read: lazy) moms didn't have anything better to do.

I find it more ridiculous that you think it's ok for the school to tell everyone they can't do something because ONE person can't. And you talk about entitlement mentality lol.

btw my allergy is way more awesome, i'm allergic to being sick.
 
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iGas

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I think it is better for the child that have peanut allergy to home school to protect her. And, it is might be a good idea for the girl to wear a respirator in public if her condition is that acute.
 

torpid

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Now kids bringing PB&J sandwiches should not cause her to go into anaphylactic shock. Contact with peanut oil or residue should only cause skin irritations in even those with the most extreme forms of the allergy. However, there is a chance she doesn't know she has peanut residue on her hands for a little bit and either sticks said residue in her eyes, nose or moth (since most people wipe their faces all the time without thinking about it). While simple exposure to her skin may not cause problems, it can if it gets into an orifice.

This is basically my point as well, except that:

A) I think there are many foods where this will be true; peanut allergies are somewhat more prevalent but there are plenty of children who could go into shock from plenty of foods. Peanut allergies are over-sensationalized to the point that any peanut allergy is treated with extremely exaggerated responses whereas potentially life-threatening allergies to other things aren't always.

B) Policies based on the flawed notion that we have to protect even against breath or minor fumes 200 feet away or accidental exposure to all skin surfaces other than hands are not appropriate (but are being done per OP). It should be narrowly focused on preventing the allergic child from ingesting peanuts (either directly or through scenarios as you describe above). Even then, at some point the line needs to be drawn because the odds of an incident become astronomically low.
 
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IronWing

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The day the kid encounters a peanut at school is the day her parents file suit. The taxpayers will be on the hook.
 

HeXen

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There is too much risk involved to even think about sending her to public school.
She could make contact with peanuts before the classroom, in the hallway.

It's like putting retards in with the regular class.
All it does is center the attention on them and takes away from the rest of the class.

Her parents should be ashamed.

though i agree, its kinda sad for the girl though, as far as interaction with other kids go. friends are pretty important but then again in the long run, its likely she'll have a hard time with relationships her whole life.
sad story though
 

Newbian

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Aug 24, 2008
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The day the kid encounters a peanut at school is the day her parents file suit. The taxpayers will be on the hook.

And this is why the school should never had admitted her in the first place as they have grounds for the refusal as other schools have done before.
 

mmntech

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Sep 20, 2007
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I have to agree with the parents on this. It's not a case of reasonable accommodation. You're punishing everyone so one child can attend? She has a severely compromised immune system. If being in a public area is that much of a threat to her health, she should be home schooled.

Now I'm not a total asshole. I can see the girl's family's side. They obviously want their daughter to grow up like a normal child, and socialize with kids her own age. However, forcing the school to undertake these actions singles her out as not being normal. In the long run, it could end up being more psychologically damaging. It's going to make her more of an outcast. If you think the parents are being unreasonable, wait for the reactions from the little hell-raisers in her class.
 

sactoking

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Sep 24, 2007
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How long is a school day, 7 hours? If so, spending 30 minutes per day sanitizing all the kids over the course of a 180 day school year costs the other kids in the class about 13 full days of instruction.

I doubt that if you asked the district if they would reduce the school year to 167 days they would comply; "you're costing the kids too much education!".

That's exactly what's being done here...
 

DCal430

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from the wiki.



So a small percentage of the population 0.4-0.6% will have severe physic symptoms to peanuts. There are also other possible compounding factors such as being an Asthmatic.

Why? because exposure to peanut can cause severe symptoms in some people which includes their airway passages closing down.

Still from the wiki.

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Now kids bringing PB&J sandwiches should not cause her to go into anaphylactic shock. Contact with peanut oil or residue should only cause skin irritations in even those with the most extreme forms of the allergy. However, there is a chance she doesn't know she has peanut residue on her hands for a little bit and either sticks said residue in her eyes, nose or moth (since most people wipe their faces all the time without thinking about it). While simple exposure to her skin may not cause problems, it can if it gets into an orifice.

Shellfish allergy is the leading cause of death from allergies, if peanuts was as bad as you claimed it would be the leading cause of death.

The only reason people make a big deal out of peanut allergy is because it is usually developed during childhood, unlike most other major allergies which develope after adulthood.
 

nanette1985

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Oct 12, 2005
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A peanut allergy is NOT a nut allergy. Peanuts are legumes, not nuts.

If the poor kid is that severely allergic, she won't grow up a normal child and socialize with kids her own age ever. Why should anybody pretend that's possible? Very sad.
 

manlymatt83

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Oct 14, 2005
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The same people who stand in front of schools picketing & humiliating a 6 yr old are usually the same people who vote down any tax measure to fund things like special needs education. Home schooling will require the district to provide an actual teacher on a regular basis.

Unless we just privatize education and get the damn government out of it in the first place...
 

RocksteadyDotNet

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I think Darwin is trying to tell you something when peanuts cause you to DIE.

The kid is broken, remove it from the gene pool and be done with it.
 
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