Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

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Geekbabe

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Plus they are accountable to the public and serve at their pleasure. There is substantially less leverage with the private insurance groups in the system we have now.

My brother is also facing debilitating medical issues. Although not as serious as yours, he still lives in a constant state of pain, is still in his 30s, and has to spend considerable energy and out of pocket expenses to get coverage and treatment.
Even more problematic, it began with a workplace injury so he has had to negotiate legal issues and finger pointing between workmans comp and his private coverage, both trying to deny responsibility and minimise treatment. It's inhumane and wasteful.


In a public system, the voters themselves decide the quality and expense of our healthcare system.

Sadly, that point may be the biggest indictment against single payer in this country as it necessitates an informed voter acting in good faith towards his fellow countrymen. Not feeling highly confident of that assumption these days.

I can't "like" this post because your brother's situation & the pain he lives with is nothing to like.
 

Azuma Hazuki

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No kidding. If there were any justice in this world the lot of them would catch lightning bolts the instant they stepped outside...I can wait for a few decades, though.
 

ch33zw1z

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I can't. If they have their way, I'll be dead from my genetic predispositions long before anything changes.
 

Azuma Hazuki

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Oh, if they have their way I and several friends will be dead of violence or exposure long before those decades are up. It just means we'll be their welcoming committee at the gates of Hell.
 
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Sea Ray

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Willful ignorance.

For some, the plight of fellow citizens is not in their purview.

Willful ignorance indeed. How many times have I said that I can't get any insurance? Yet I keep hearing from her that people with pre existing conditions etc will be kicked off under GOP plans. Does she forget that I'm already in that position? I don't have to wait for GOP plans. I'm there as of 6 mos from now. I get that.

This notion that Republicans don't get sick and have pre existing conditions is ludicrous. Republicans are well aware of this. They get sick too.
 

Geekbabe

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Willful ignorance indeed. How many times have I said that I can't get any insurance? Yet I keep hearing from her that people with pre existing conditions etc will be kicked off under GOP plans. Does she forget that I'm already in that position? I don't have to wait for GOP plans. I'm there as of 6 mos from now. I get that.

This notion that Republicans don't get sick and have pre existing conditions is ludicrous. Republicans are well aware of this. They get sick too.

If my memory serves me correctly I believe you started out being really unhappy about how much the ACA was costing you & hopeful your party would make things cheaper for you. Being "upset" didn't seem to come into play till you found out your party helped drive out the last insurer in your area.

If they pass ACHA, with your wife's medical history guess what? You will get to join me in the ranks of the uninsurable.
 

ch33zw1z

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Willful ignorance indeed. How many times have I said that I can't get any insurance? Yet I keep hearing from her that people with pre existing conditions etc will be kicked off under GOP plans. Does she forget that I'm already in that position? I don't have to wait for GOP plans. I'm there as of 6 mos from now. I get that.

This notion that Republicans don't get sick and have pre existing conditions is ludicrous. Republicans are well aware of this. They get sick too.
It appears your bootstraps are worn out.
 

Sea Ray

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If my memory serves me correctly I believe you started out being really unhappy about how much the ACA was costing you & hopeful your party would make things cheaper for you. Being "upset" didn't seem to come into play till you found out your party helped drive out the last insurer in your area.

If they pass ACHA, with your wife's medical history guess what? You will get to join me in the ranks of the uninsurable.

I get to join you in the uninsured anyways.
 

senseamp

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...x-cuts-for-big-earners-in-revised-health-bill
Senate Republican leaders dropped provisions that would repeal two taxes on high earners in a revised draft of their health-care bill sent to the Congressional Budget Office, according to GOP senators.
Republican leaders are now planning to retain Obamacare’s 3.8 percent tax on net investment income for people who earn more than $200,000 and couples with incomes over $250,000, as well as a 0.9 percent Medicare surtax on the same incomes.
Sigh, us liberal elites will not even be getting a tax cut on our stock compensation
 

Bitek

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I can't "like" this post because your brother's situation & the pain he lives with is nothing to like.

Thank you, and I wish you the best for what it's worth.

Thankfully I have good health, but I can plainly see how perilous that is.

There are so many hurting and being destroyed by our terrible healthcare system that it's insanely frustrating to watch how so many can't get over their own greed and selfishness to create a system that actually provides care to the others around them.

Doubly insane is that they or their close family is also one accident or diagnosis away from peril, but nope, can't get over it. I just don't know what it will take until we've collectively had enough and are willing to make a big change.

The politics of this are are so toxic I can't imagine Congress touching this unless absolutely forced to. Feeling little hope for change.
 
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zinfamous

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ch33zw1z

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Seriously, let's move forward, fix it and keep citizens healthy

What's even worse, is all these dick punch elected officials are on the gubbrrment healthcare for life. Yet still feel their condescending and spiteful attitude towards the American people is their right.
 
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Azuma Hazuki

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I just want all the people who support this crap to suffer, ideally in a poetic fashion. They can start apologizing from the depths of Hell.
 
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