Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

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JSt0rm

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I'd be happy to work with Dems to fix it if only they would. I think a bipartisan bill is the way to go. I agree with my Senator Rob Portman on that. He opposes the Senate bill

lol. you arent working with shit. I mean seriously. Wtf do you do for a living?
 
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Sea Ray

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So are healthcare providers. What about the people who receive protection from the military who pay no (or negative) taxes? My taxes are going to cover myself and everyone else that doesn't or can't pay for military services. What's the difference?

You raise a good point about people who get all the advantages of our country but never pay taxes. We're a very generous country but that point has little to do with the military
 

Engineer

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Then why do you guys lose to us so often in Knoxville? It happened when I went to school and it happened again this year. I win bets on that game often.

And why do we have most victories in college basketball, 8 National Championship banners, numerous final fours and more SEC regular season and tournament victories than the rest of the SEC combined?

Would you like to see the entire list of Kentucky basketball accomplishments?

What do you have?
 
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Engineer

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You raise a good point about people who get all the advantages of our country but never pay taxes. We're a very generous country but that point has little to do with the military

Let's pick police then? How about fire department? Roads? Water management projects? Environmental services? Insert any federal government service that you want. Doesn't matter.

By they way, why do you assume that those people are taking advantage? Maybe they work hard every day just like I do? Just because the wages have fallen so far that the only way for those people to get ahead was through tax cuts / credits, doesn't mean that they take advantage of anything and it also doesn't mean that they pay ZERO taxes. The government has cut taxes for decades to try to supplement falling wages while those at the top took more and more of the pie (while also having their taxes lowered greatly). Looks to me like trickle up economics.
 

Sea Ray

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And why do we have 8 National Championship banners, numerous final fours and more SEC regular season and tournament victories than the rest of the SEC combined?

Because you're a basketball Mecca. But your banners have nothing to do with Tenn being horrible
 

Bowfinger

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The military protects all Americans. It's not selective. ...


Sorry, but that's nonsense. When's the last time anyone posed a material military threat to people in the United States? Our military is primarily a giant wealth transfer program, defending the interests of oil companies and other industries with large overseas investments, and lining the pockets of military contractors. It provides nearly no value to your average tax-paying American, certainly only a tiny fraction of its cost.
 
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Sea Ray

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Let's pick police then? How about fire department? Roads? Water management projects? Environmental services? Insert any federal government service that you want. Doesn't matter.

All those people are paid to do a job. My taxes aren't redistributed to policemen. Those cops are paid a salary in order to deliver a service. What service is demanded of someone on Medicaid?
 

buckshot24

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I'll let your god decide the appropriate consequnces for your immorality. I will simply note that this is yet another example of your signature duhversion when you don't want to engage in honest discussion. It's why you are a net negative here.
When you say I support the killing of kids with cancer then you are saying I am doing something wrong. I'd like to know what you think society should do with people like me.
 

agent00f

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Worth iterating that liberals are arguing with people who would vote for the confederacy if it meant a $1000 tax cut.
 
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Sea Ray

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Sorry, but that's nonsense. When's the last time anyone posed a material military threat to people in the United States? Our military is primarily a giant wealth transfer program, defending the interests of oil companies and other industries with large overseas investments, and lining the pockets of military contractors. It provides nearly no value to your average tax-paying American, certainly only a tiny fraction of its cost.

Oh brother. Happy 4th of July to you too. God Bless America. She needs it with attitudes like yours...
 

buckshot24

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Sorry, but that's nonsense. When's the last time anyone posed a material military threat to people in the United States? Our military is primarily a giant wealth transfer program, defending the interests of oil companies and other industries with large overseas investments, and lining the pockets of military contractors. It provides nearly no value to your average tax-paying American, certainly only a tiny fraction of its cost.
Ok, take all the military away and see what happens.
 

buckshot24

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Oh brother. Happy 4th of July to you too. God Bless America. She needs it with attitudes like yours...
It's like saying that a guard dog is useless as protection for the house because nobody has attempted to enter and kill everybody.
 

Engineer

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All those people are paid to do a job. My taxes aren't redistributed to policemen. Those cops are paid a salary in order to deliver a service. What service is demanded of someone on Medicaid?

Again, the person paying no taxes is the same as the person on Medicaid in this case. They aren't paying for anything and receiving a service (military, roads, healthcare). In your analogy, the healthcare professional is the one getting paid, just like the soldier, the policeman. It's who is and isn't paying that you're trying to spin.
 

agent00f

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Sorry, but that's nonsense. When's the last time anyone posed a material military threat to people in the United States? Our military is primarily a giant wealth transfer program, defending the interests of oil companies and other industries with large overseas investments, and lining the pockets of military contractors. It provides nearly no value to your average tax-paying American, certainly only a tiny fraction of its cost.

Actually the military is substantially white welfare, which perfectly explains its political advocacy base.
 

jackstar7

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Maybe liberals


Thanks for the order Sargent.
It's not an order. You can tell because I said should.

It was a suggestion. Or go educate yourself on that word so you start using it correctly.

You have a lot of options to stop being dumb about this.
 
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It's like saying that a guard dog is useless as protection for the house because nobody has attempted to enter and kill everybody.
do you see healthcare as a supply/demand type of economy? I've asked this several times as have others. I may be on your List™, but you're answering someone else who asked the same question. This is where you typically buckshat out of a conversation.
pathetic, truly
 
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Bowfinger

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Oh brother. Happy 4th of July to you too. God Bless America. She needs it with attitudes like yours...
Attitudes like what, that our military provides far more benefit to a wealthy few than it does to your average working American? I didn't say we don't need defense; I was challenging your suggestion that the military's value is not selective, and that it's not a form of wealth transfer (a challenge you made zero attempt to rebut, I might add).

Face it, everything the government does is wealth transfer to some extent. This includes the military. Each government service benefits some more than others. That's how a democracy works.
 
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