So can we safely assume you'll continue to ignore the huge gaps in your premise, like relatively inelastic demand and the fact that a single payer has the leverage to lower prices?
So can we safely assume you'll continue to ignore the huge gaps in your premise, like relatively inelastic demand and the fact that a single payer has the leverage to lower prices?You can't look at what this industry has become and complain about "basic supply and demand" because the system isn't running on free market principles.
Haha.It's also not correct to call me a 'hillbilly'...it's Appalachian American.
Speaking of 'you people'...
https://youtu.be/GP9zSNVYWeA?t=76
No, that would be dangerous, not safe.So can we safely assume you'll continue to ignore the huge gaps in your premise, like relatively inelastic demand and the fact that a single payer has the leverage to lower prices?
So? Should I be flattered? Face it, Buckyboy, we all know exactly how you process others' comments:Bowfinger, in case you haven't figured it out yet this is NOT my motto. "Bowfinger says it, I believe it, and that settles it." If I can't trust you on little things, like 10^60, then I sure as peaches am not going to trust you on other assertions you make.
I'm supposed to abandon my beliefs because some guy on the internet said something different? As with every living person with a brain, I am biased, I process information based on prior experience. I could be wrong about things but expecting me to just abandon it because you assert something is ridiculous.So? Should I be flattered? Face it, Buckyboy, we all know exactly how you process others' comments:
- BS24: What do I believe already?
- BS24: Does this comment match my belief?
- Yes -- accept it.
- No -- reject it
- BS24: Pat myself on the back for being so clever
People will die of cancer with or without Obamacare. It is often a terminal illness.
Those people aren't being cut off any more than I am. That's the point you don't seem to get. The last insurer for the individual marketplace is leaving my part of Ohio as of 6 mos from now. That's the definition of being cut off. Your definition is someone refusing to pay for your insurance. Big difference.
If we go with a universal care aren't those decisions going to be made anyway?If I become uninsurable, I will not be able to afford a high risk pool that will cost 25K or more per year & offer meager benefits. Medicaid being slashed means states have to choose, do they care for pregnant women & sick kids or 60 yr olds with cancer like me? I think the answer is obvious.
Seek help you deranged lunatic.He doesn't give a fuck. He and Buckyball and all his kind don't care. And nothing will make them care except being in the same situation themselves. Stop trying to reason with them; they're not functioning humans any longer. All that remains for them is the flames of Hell and a reincarnation into far worse circumstances than they have now. One way or another they will learn.
@Sea Ray, @buckshot24, got anything to say to her now? Goddamn cowards.
If we go with a universal care aren't those decisions going to be made anyway?
If we go with a universal care aren't those decisions going to be made anyway?
If we go with a universal care aren't those decisions going to be made anyway?
Unpaid hospital bills only come to around 40 billion a year, divided by the population and you get $125ish. Unpaid hospital bills are not a significant source of inflated prices.
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Some of us terminally ill people can live a long time with proper medical care, I am one of them.
If I become uninsurable, I will not be able to afford a high risk pool that will cost 25K or more per year & offer meager benefits. Medicaid being slashed means states have to choose, do they care for pregnant women & sick kids or 60 yr olds with cancer like me? I think the answer is obvious.
Do you have any idea the kind of suffering I will face dying of cancer without any medical care?
If the hospital is charging 30k for something that they could charge 10k don't you see that as a huge problem?Mass General charges 30K per chemo session, my insurance company negotiated that down to 10K.
Hospitals aren't going to give individual patients the same rates they give big insurance companies & even if they could I can't cough up 20K a month in cash
It isn't completely insignificant but it is no reason to overhaul the entire system. From your link that $41 billion was only 5.9% of the expenses.That's just a stupid assessment, dividing unpaid hospital bills by each person in the U.S. The metric is how much is each hospital losing per year.
http://www.aha.org/content/13/1-2013-uncompensated-care-fs.pdf
Given that, the $41.1B lost in unpaid medical bills by hospitals in 2011 averages out to $8.3M per hospital, using 4973 as the hospital number. That's the metric you should be looking at......and how do those $8M losses get covered each year?
Taxes, mostly on property owners. So, tax payers are paying for health care, no matter the system instituted.
If the hospital is charging 30k for something that they could charge 10k don't you see that as a huge problem?
Hospital price growth, as measured by the Hospital Producer Price Index, was just 0.9% in 2015, the slowest rate since 1998 and down from 4.4% in 2006.
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Some of us terminally ill people can live a long time with proper medical care, I am one of them.
If I become uninsurable, I will not be able to afford a high risk pool that will cost 25K or more per year & offer meager benefits. Medicaid being slashed means states have to choose, do they care for pregnant women & sick kids or 60 yr olds with cancer like me? I think the answer is obvious.
Do you have any idea the kind of suffering I will face dying of cancer without any medical care?
Coverage for people with pre-existing conditions would also be preserved if this new draft is approved by the Senate.
“Generally speaking, we spend more every single year on Medicaid,” Mick Mulvaney, the White House budget director, said in an interview this month. “We are not gutting or filleting or kicking people off those programs. We are trying to slow the rate of growth of government.”