Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

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buckshot24

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What about the cost of lost productivity? The costs in terms of human suffering?

I haven't called you any names but my God man, where is your humanity?
Ok, look, I don't want anybody to suffer, I just don't think it is the federal government's job to do these things.
 

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Fine.
We as people should help those who need it, we don't need the federal government to do it.
I don't have most of the cars I've ever owned because it became smarter and more economical to get rid of them rather than fix them.

Fine.
We as people should help those who need it, we don't need the federal government to do it.
I don't have most of the cars I've ever owned because it became smarter and more economical to get rid of them rather than fix them.

So basically then, since it's cheaper, The government should just "get rid of me" ?

Thanks for clarifying, I pray that you & yours never get cancer. I mean that sincerely, you have no idea how hard it has been for me & my family. Walking this road is lonely, the suffering unimaginable.
 

buckshot24

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So basically then, since it's cheaper, The government should just "get rid of me" ?

Thanks for clarifying, I pray that you & yours never get cancer. I mean that sincerely, you have no idea how hard it has been for me & my family. Walking this road is lonely, the suffering unimaginable.
It isn't the government's role to do anything with you. The government is going to be making those decisions if it controls the whole thing anyway.
 

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Because your care is too expensive. Care providers have very little incentive to reduce price.

The care I am receiving was cutting edge 25 months ago & is being expanded rapidly to treat many types of cancer. The price will come down. Also, as one of the first to receive the drug after FDA approval I was sort of a pioneer, my information will help many patients who come after me. Immunotherapy, changing the face of Oncology.
 
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It isn't the government's role to do anything with you. The government is going to be making those decisions if it controls the whole thing anyway.

Opinions vary (as I pointed out earlier) and hint, you're in the minority majorly when it comes to this opinion.
 

buckshot24

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The care I am receiving was cutting edge 25 months ago & is being expanded rapidly to treat many types of cancer. The price will come down. Also, as one of the first to receive the drug after FDA approval I was sort of a pioneer, my information will help many patients who come after me. Immunotherapy, changing the face of Oncology.
I'm glad you are getting this treatment. Do you think you would be getting this treatment right now if the federal government was in complete control of the system? Or would they wait until those costs come down before expanding to the general public?
 

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It isn't the government's role to do anything with you. The government is going to be making those decisions if it controls the whole thing anyway.


Please, stop dancing around & spit it out, if I can't afford care anymore you don't care if I die & if it's really painful, you are okay with it if it saves you a few bucks

It isn't the government's role to do anything with you. The government is going to be making those decisions if it controls the whole thing anyway.

Under a single payer system, prices would come down because of the size of a national risk pool. I would still get treatment based on my age ( under 65) & my excellent performance standard scores
 

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I do drive my loved ones around in my cars so there is a relationship. Just saying that if something can be fixed it should be fixed is not a good argument.

Like certain types of sick humans for example? Just think of the savings you could get by not having to pay for them. But of course, what comes around, goes around, eh?
 
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buckshot24

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Please, stop dancing around & spit it out, if I can't afford care anymore you don't care if I die & if t
Of course I care. I'm saying it isn't the federal government's job to provide healthcare to you, not that you shouldn't get care.
 
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