Passage of the ACHA Lays Bare The Hatred and Contempt in The Hearts of GOP Voters

[zzyzxroad]

You're a child.

I made the vow to myself that I wouldn't give personal insults anymore. This comment has tested me greatly.

 

[Paratus]

Your alternative is...

I'll go with Ebenzer Scrooge for $500 Alex

What is let them die and decrease the surplus population?

I mean what the hell happens to people to make them like this?

 

[buckshot24]

I thought this was an interesting perspective, from that liberal rag Forbes (/s): The Senate's Trumpcare Bill Will Kill 50 Times More Americans Than Terrorists Have.

Should the Senate’s Trumpcare bill become law, the Congressional Budget Office forecasts there will be 15 million additional Americans without health insurance in 2018. This will grow to 22 million by 2026. But what does that mean? Those numbers don’t easily translate into specific health outcomes, like mortality. So, let's focus on mortality to put the Trumpcare proposal into a meaningful context. According to the numbers, if this bill passes we will inflict on ourselves the equivalent of between five and nine 9/11-sized attacks per year between now and 2026. During those nine years at least 50 times more Americans will die from Trumpcare than were killed by jihadist terrorists in the previous 16 years.

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Seems the GOP is the real threat to America, America's own Taliban. The American Taliban, different methods, same results.

So you agree with Hodgkinson?

 

[buckshot24]

It's like we just saw a microcosm of what will happen when Trump is ousted. Buckbot will be the first to say "Glad our national nightmare is over. Right guys?"

Just as long as you realize that the soonest this will happen is 2020.

 

[buckshot24]

I'll go with Ebenzer Scrooge for $500 Alex

What is let them die and decrease the surplus population?

I mean what the hell happens to people to make them like this?

Who me? I'm simply against the government taking over the healthcare system.

 

[Jhhnn]

I'll go with Ebenzer Scrooge for $500 Alex

What is let them die and decrease the surplus population?

I mean what the hell happens to people to make them like this?

Greed & the adulation of the greediest among us.

Right Wing Billionaires crave tax cuts & this is how they intend to get them. Their base will go along because they adore & emulate the wealthy & because they've been taught that poverty is a state of moral depravity.

 

[Sea Ray]

Healthcare isn't a goodie.


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Free healthcare is in this country.

 

[Sea Ray]

Get a goodie... Clearly this is someone who's never actually had a circumstance in which they've needed to be on any kind of public assistance (at least insofar as they know, how are those public roads working out for you?)

Hey, I'm all for getting public assistance with my healthcare bills. I think it's a great thing. I want in on it too

 

[Jhhnn]

Who me? I'm simply against the government taking over the healthcare system.

It's easy to be against, particularly if you're just a troll. Tell us what you're for that will deliver healthcare to the general population.

It's obvious that the Free Market can't do that. In that scenario, many millions will simply do without.

I don't expect you to be honest about it. I merely point out your contempt for the whole idea of honesty.

 

[Sea Ray]

Who enforces those rules you want? The free market? No. Government.

What do the companies get for being forced to cater to your whims? Why would they do it?

You're still not getting it. I want the rules dropped, not enforced

 

[buckshot24]

Free healthcare is in this country.

If you disagree with the government taking over the healthcare system then you want kids to die of cancer. That is the bottom line with these guys. They act as if they are speaking with Hitler.

 

[Sea Ray]

Isn't the real issue out of control health care cost? Are you proposing we go back to the broken system we had before the ACA(not saying this is the solution)? How does that address the real issue?

That is the real issue and that's why Obamacare failed. It succeeded in giving free/subsidized healthcare to many who didn't have it before but it failed on its core mission who you astutely stated. Anybody can draw up a system where you set up a system where Gov't writes checks but controlling costs for healthcare is another deal. I do think some of the free market principles of pre Obamacare would control costs

 

[Sea Ray]

"get a goodie"? Are you fucking kidding me?

Anytime you get the gov't to pay for your healthcare it's a goodie

 

[Jhhnn]

If you disagree with the government taking over the healthcare system then you want kids to die of cancer. That is the bottom line with these guys. They act as if they are speaking with Hitler.

"Want" is too strong a word. You will, however, look the other way while it happens.

Because billionaires deserve tax cuts.

 

[Pens1566]

Anytime you get the gov't to pay for your healthcare it's a goodie

Except that's not what anyone in favor of single payer or medicare for all is advocating. Anyone that think's it'll be "free" is either a retard or intentionally misleading. Which bucket do you fall into?

 

[Pens1566]

So you agree with Hodgkinson?

So, you're a moron?

 

[Jhhnn]

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[Bowfinger]

So you agree with Hodgkinson?

Maybe. Did he think you were a boring troll, too?

So, you're a moron?

No, he's just a shameless bottom-feeder.

 

[Bowfinger]

If you disagree with the government taking over the healthcare system then you want kids to die of cancer. That is the bottom line with these guys. They act as if they are speaking with Hitler.

You're lying again. It's what you do best.

 

[buckshot24]

You're lying again. It's what you do best.

That is not a lie.

 

[Engineer]

D/P


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[Engineer]

Free healthcare is in this country.

I never said anything about FREE.


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[Engineer]

That is not a lie.

Opinions vary.


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[Bowfinger]

That is the real issue and that's why Obamacare failed. It succeeded in giving free/subsidized healthcare to many who didn't have it before but it failed on its core mission who you astutely stated. Anybody can draw up a system where you set up a system where Gov't writes checks but controlling costs for healthcare is another deal.

Which is why the ACA should be improved, not gutted. The GOP plans just make the problems worse.

I do think some of the free market principles of pre Obamacare would control costs

Yet they didn't. Hard though it may be to accept, the fact is that the health care costs were skyrocketing long before the ACA, and that the rate of increase actually slowed after the ACA was implemented. We tried it your way, and it failed.

In stark contrast, all of our first-world peers have some form of universal health care, and their per capita costs are dramatically lower than ours. There is a lesson there for those who are willing to set aside partisan dogma and consider it.

 

[buckshot24]

Opinions vary.


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Ironically. I was stating my opinion so, ok.