Of course it was. It was a straw man, and a straw man is a lie. It's one of the many forms of dishonesty at which you excel.
Of course it was. It was a straw man, and a straw man is a lie. It's one of the many forms of dishonesty at which you excel.That is not a lie.
That isn't how strawmen work.Of course it was. It was a straw man, and a straw man is a lie. It's one of the many forms of dishonesty at which you excel.
That isn't how strawmen work.
You continue to lie. That is exactly how a straw man works. You twisted your opponents' actual position into a dishonest caricature you could attack more easily:That isn't how strawmen work.
Now I just have to attack my constructed strawman, right? I didn't and wasn't planning on attacking this position. It isn't a straw man. It is an assessment of your dishonest argumentation. Which you are free to correct.You continue to lie. That is exactly how a straw man works. You twisted your opponents' actual position into a dishonest caricature you could attack more easily:
"If you disagree with the government taking over the healthcare system then you want kids to die of cancer. That is the bottom line with these guys."
Your exact words, and they materially misrepresent our actual position. Straw man.
Why ever would it matter what I think, buckbot?Just as long as you realize that the soonest this will happen is 2020.
Are peoples memory that short? This quote is a fact and anyone claiming otherwise is stupid or a liar.Yet they didn't. Hard though it may be to accept, the fact is that the health care costs were skyrocketing long before the ACA, and that the rate of increase actually slowed after the ACA was implemented. We tried it your way, and it failed.
That's not what you said. You said you want insurance to offer you what you want. They have no incentive to do that if there is nothing forcing them to do so.You're still not getting it. I want the rules dropped, not enforced
And here is where you're disgusting.Anytime you get the gov't to pay for your healthcare it's a goodie
More dishonesty. This isn't debate class. Your comment was an attack, in and of itself. If you don't like being called on your dishonesty, stop lying. Put on your big boy pants and accept accountability for your behavior.Now I just have to attack my constructed strawman, right? I didn't and wasn't planning on attacking this position. It isn't a straw man.
If you had any interest in and capability of attacking our actual positions, you would. All you have to do is quote our actual words -- all of them -- and address them, directly and honestly. Instead, you consistently avoid our actual arguments and positions, quoting only little bits and pieces you can use as a platform to launch off yet another round of Gish Galloping.It is an assessment of your dishonest argumentation. Which you are free to correct.
You're still not getting it. I want the rules dropped, not enforced
You are welcomed to correct any factual errors I made with a rebuttal. Saying "you're lying" isn't cutting it. It wasn't a strawman, period. You can't honestly assess anything I say.More dishonesty. This isn't debate class. Your comment was an attack, in and of itself. If you don't like being called on your dishonesty, stop lying. Put on your big boy pants and accept accountability for your behavior.
If you haven't been paying attention I don't like the RNC's approach.If you had any interest in and capability of attacking our actual positions, you would. All you have to do is quote our actual words -- all of them -- and address them, directly and honestly. Instead, you consistently avoid our actual arguments and positions, quoting only little bits and pieces you can use as a platform to launch off yet another round of Gish Galloping.
You bury these forums in noise precisely because you lack the knowledge and intellectual ability to support your GOP talking points. You plop out a few turdlettes from rnc.org, then blast out a ton of off-topic noise to disrupt any attempts at discussion and to hide your own lack of substance.
You are welcomed to correct any factual errors I made with a rebuttal. Saying "you're lying" isn't cutting it. It wasn't a strawman, period. You can't honestly assess anything I say.
If you haven't been paying attention I don't like the RNC's approach.
I don't support the government taking over the healthcare system, I've been accused of actively praying for the death of children to cancer because of this. You wouldn't call out those outrageous remarks but when I say basically the same thing you accuse me of lying about your positions.
Instead of simply telling me what your position is you accuse me of lying.
If you haven't been paying attention I don't like the RNC's approach.
I never said anything about FREE.
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Except that's not what anyone in favor of single payer or medicare for all is advocating. Anyone that think's it'll be "free" is either a retard or intentionally misleading. Which bucket do you fall into?
Apparently because it doesn't go far enough to screw the little people who simply cannot afford coverage & therefore can't afford care.
Feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken.
Of course you didn't. That's why you're missing the point. Free healthcare is a goodie. If you're not talking about that then your point is tangential to mine.
Obamacare didn't go far enough to help me as I can't afford coverage
"Want" is too strong a word. You will, however, look the other way while it happens.
Because billionaires deserve tax cuts.
It should have been UHC (and still should).
But the voters don't want it. The UHC guy lost in the primaries
Obamacare taxes referred to people making in the neighborhood of $200-250K per year. Do you understand that's a far cry from a billion? Is math that challenging for you or are you intentionally embellishing the numbers so people will pay attention to you?
I'm not missing the point at all and I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum from you on this. You think that everyone who gets FREE healthcare is getting a goodie. I'm sure there are those that are getting 'goodies', but many aren't. You can either kick people off of the system and deny them service or they can pay, otherwise, they're getting a 'goodie'.
Oh, and I guess that the FREE healthcare that my niece gets, who has Cystic Fibrosis, is a goodie too. Her treatment costs north of 1.5 million per year.
Obamacare taxes referred to people making in the neighborhood of $200-250K per year. Do you understand that's a far cry from a billion? Is math that challenging for you or are you intentionally embellishing the numbers so people will pay attention to you?
Thanks for that pretty blue graph. Next show how high up a billion dollars is. That blue line will burn a lot of cyberspace