Passing a piss test

[Red Squirrel]

Unless you're applying to be a cop or something, I doubt they will take a pee test. I've never even heard of this being done for a job. A criminal check maybe but that's about it.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Not a fan of free speech huh?

No, it's not that. It's just that I once made a post with a local news video where they talk about license plate spraying and how it's a problem because they can't' catch toll cheaters. I basically summarized it and provided some commentary and I got banned for condoning illegal activities... Shrug.

I thought you can't talk about illegal stuff here. That's all.

I think AT lets certain things slide though. People can talk about newsgroups, downloading music, and hint at piracy because we know almost everyone has a few illegal MP3s here and there, etc. and that this is a tech forum. Pot on the other hand is another subject that many people view as controversial. While it's pretty much illegal what most people are talking about here, there's support to legalize marijuana so it seems we can talk about it here, and how to cheat a test, and how to pass a test that's deliberately trying to screen for illicit drug use.

Bleh, maybe I should post that on personal forum issues but no it's not that I'm against free speech. I'm just a little iffy about stuff on the border.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Unless you're applying to be a cop or something, I doubt they will take a pee test. I've never even heard of this being done for a job. A criminal check maybe but that's about it.

The majority of employers (in the US) use pre-employment drug screens.

 

[overclocking101]

Get a detox drink from your local head shop, has worked for friends. You drink it and wait an hour or so, then you have a window of time where you will be clean.

back when i used to smoke i tried almost EVERY detox/flush kit on the market, none of them worked most of them just made sick and eithr puke like crazy or have mad dirreah

 

[oiprocs]

You just started? Is that a week? Have you been smoking daily? If so, how many times per day? Chronic or east coast shit?

If it hasn't been that long, just fucking man up and abstain for a few weeks. Test yourself with a kit from the drug store (no pun intended) and see if you pass. Then you can start applying to all the jobs you researched while waiting for your system to clean up.

 

[oiprocs]

The majority of employers (in the US) use pre-employment drug screens.

Mega fail. I've had 7 jobs, going on my 8th, and not once have I been tested.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Mega fail. I've had 7 jobs, going on my 8th, and not once have I been tested.

You're a moron for thinking your anecdotal evidence has any weight. An AMA study conducted in 2004 found that 62% of employers screened applicants, down from 81% in '96.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

dimwits like the OP are why drug screens were invented

 

[BUTCH1]

I love reading all the misinformation in this thread. All I will say after 16+ years of experience is that the only sure way to pass a drug screen is to not do drugs. Other than that hope the person collecting really doesn't give a damn about it and isn't that observant of the collection and you may pass by adulterating the sample.

I've seen all the clean out kits, the wizzonater, the unrinater and heard every excuse from excersizing will release long stored THC to it must be the Advil, Sudafed or your choice of OTC drug excuse ever invented but the bottom line, no one and I repeat no one, has ever beat a GC/MS confirmation and that's the only one that really counts.

And your misinformation too!, I've been tested 10+ times and not one was an observed test, also if you sample is good on the initial integrity/immunoassay screens it never goes to GS/MS anyway. Adulterating the sample will most likely cause a "fail" as a tampered sample, labs have been checking this for awhile now. Clean out kits are a joke, most are just diuretics anyway and will mask nothing, dilution can be a help if it's done right, boosting creatinine levels and taking vitamin's for color. Substitution woks perfectly providing your sure your donor hasn't been toking his/her self and lastly subbing with synthetic works too, both methods are dependent on providing a sample@ 90-99 degree range for acceptability..

 

[Bateluer]

You're a moron for thinking your anecdotal evidence has any weight. An AMA study conducted in 2004 found that 62% of employers screened applicants, down from 81% in '96.

I had to take a drug test for my current job, only one though when I started. A few departments, that hire primarily in the young 16-20 age group, test quarterly though. Always bust a few people for various things every cycle.

 

[BUTCH1]

You're making an assumption that companies only test for THC. I'll tell you that the majority of our postive tests are not for THC, but for amphetamines or methamphetamines. You better damn well believe that has an affect on performance and safety.

Overall most positives are for THC as it can take so long to exit the body and is therefore much more often detected, of course your company may reside in an area where meth manufacture and use are more prevalent. Amphetamines are water soluble and it's metabolites are only detectable for a few days after use.

 

[bobdole369]

It actually tests for creatinINE. It's a byproduct of creatine. I'm sure you could up the levels with supplemented creatine monohydrate.

Awesome, Good to see this type of info, I wasn't aware of the difference!

no one and I repeat no one, has ever beat a GC/MS confirmation

Do they (the man) regularly do GC? I understood that a large majority was the simple 5 panel reagent type test.

 

[Bateluer]

Overall most positives are for THC as it can take so long to exit the body and is therefore much more often detected, of course your company may reside in an area where meth manufacture and use are more prevalent. Amphetamines are water soluble and it's metabolites are only detectable for a few days after use.

If an individual is doing meth, a drug test won't be needed to detect it.

 

[BUTCH1]

If an individual is doing meth, a drug test won't be needed to detect it.

True, I tried it once 10 years ago, I felt like I was going to jump out of my skin, didn't care for it too much. Cleaned the hell out of the house though, my wife liked that!..

 

[BUTCH1]

Awesome, Good to see this type of info, I wasn't aware of the difference!



Do they (the man) regularly do GC? I understood that a large majority was the simple 5 panel reagent type test.

I've seen 5, 10, and 13 panel tests, GS/MS are usually done for conformation of a positive test on an EMIT immunoassay panel, this is because the GS/MS is much more expensive and time consuming than a standard panel..

 

[Toastedlightly]

I was drug tested before I started my internship position and once while there. I don't see it as a big deal.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Overall most positives are for THC as it can take so long to exit the body and is therefore much more often detected, of course your company may reside in an area where meth manufacture and use are more prevalent. Amphetamines are water soluble and it's metabolites are only detectable for a few days after use.

I know about THC. Bullshit on meth, you need to see how well some of these Appalachia people can carry themselves while testing postive for it, and amphetamine will stay in the system long enough to catch it over the weekend, not to mention the work week. THC is the only drug we allow retests after a 5 day period.

 

[BUTCH1]

I know about THC. Bullshit on meth, you need to see how well some of these Appalachia people can carry themselves while testing postive for it, and amphetamine will stay in the system long enough to catch it over the weekend, not to mention the work week. THC is the only drug we allow retests after a 5 day period.

I guess if your used to using meth, one could hide the outward effects more easily, tried a small amount once and didn't care for it at all. Your company is more forgiving than most, a positive where I work is term. on the spot. 5 days will not be enough time in a lot of cases though, when they announced testing at my job I stopped immediately and it took 21 days for a clean test, my usage was about 1/2 joint/day after dinner and it still took a LONG time..

 

[zanejohnson]

ATOT paging Dr ZaneJohnson...

omg rofl

but no, its been said...only way to make sure is to be clean...

however...MOST urine tests use creatine levels to make sure the sample is not dilluted... SOOO, you can waterlog yourself, and take a creatine supplement and piss dilluted enough to not show up, and still have enough creatine to pass the test..

that is what most detox "drinks" you can buy at the headshop do..

 

[PrelateBishop]

stay off the pot for a while and apply to more jobs when you're clean? just a wild crazy suggestion

this

 

[SociallyChallenged]

omg rofl

but no, its been said...only way to make sure is to be clean...

however...MOST urine tests use creatine levels to make sure the sample is not dilluted... SOOO, you can waterlog yourself, and take a creatine supplement and piss dilluted enough to not show up, and still have enough creatine to pass the test..

that is what most detox "drinks" you can buy at the headshop do..

Damnit, creatine and creatinine are two different compounds. Yes, you can take a creatine supplement and increase your creatinine, but still. You're murdering science.

 

[XBoxLPU]

You do know that if you have to pass a drug test as a part of a pre-screen hiring process, you are most likely going to be obliged to complete another drug test if you are involved in any on the job accident and you will be SOL any way