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Homerboy

Lifer
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You're stats were:
500kdps
6.58k life
236 life regen

After my changes they are:
742k dps
6.43k life
628 life regen
+More


I put the basic description of the items to buy as the name for the item I changed. First thing you want to do is grab a Vaal Righteous Fire and dump the regular version you have. The reason people use the Vaal version is that it gives you a massive damage increase for at least 4 seconds at the cost of 30% of your life...which you can just flask up immediately. Try to grab a 21/20 if you can for cheap but you may have to wait a little bit for one to show up. A 21/23 is going to run you around 1.5ex but it's the by far the biggest DPS increase you can get. For you it's nearly triple damage for 4 seconds.

Next step is to buy the cluster jewels I put in your tree. Those will run you like 100c all together. Try to find ones with life or life regen as I didn't put those things in there, just the notable skills you need. One of them gives 1% life on kill which helps a lot in harder maps. Every time you kill a pack of monsters you're getting 600-1200 life back.

From here you should redo your flasks. You have 3 life flasks when you should be able to get by with 1. Change 1 to a divine flask of heat. Drop the other two for a well rolled rumi's concotion and a cinderswallow with 3% life regen. Finally change the quicksilver flask to of warding to mitigate curses. Total cost for all of that is 2ex and you'll get double your block change as well as onslaught, another 1% life recovery on kill.

After that you want to get a 6L all white Astral Plate that has 10-15% increased life recovery rate with a big life roll and ideally an empty prefix so you can craft %life/%mana. That Astral should run you about 2 to 4ex. A 15% increased life recovery roll basically doubles your life regen. If you prefer damage then you can get same specs above but instead of life recovery get frenzy change on hit. This will give you 10% more damage at 3 charges.

Following those you want to swap out your amulet for a +1 fire skill gem with a good life roll and some resists. When you do this buy a lvl 21 vitality and a lvl 21 purity of fire. The amulet plus the 21 purity of fire will get you another +1 max fire resist. The amulet is going to run you about 1.5ex and the gems are about 60c each. Put a filter up while you're playing for the amulet though as sometimes they show up for like 60c so this one is rather random.

Finally, I would drop infused channeling for Cyclone for a 20/20 increased critical strikes. To proc Elemental Overload you have to crit but your crit chance is like 3% with Cyclone so I imagine it's almost never up. Increased critical strikes moves that to around 8%. Also, you should change your CWDT level from 14 to 1 and the same thing for Wave of Conviction. You want this thing to pop off all the time not when you take medium damage. It's the only thing you have that applies fire exposure which is a huge DPS increase for you.

Respec'ed what I could for now. Picked up 2 of the 3 cluster jewels (the one has had one seller all weekend from when I was playing and he wanted 4E). Picked up cinderswallow (3% life AND crafted 3% life) and a Rumi's and the former definitely helps. The later, I have mixed feelings on. I hate that it petrifies. Picked up the Vaal RF too. It's definitely a nice pop of damage, but it was a little liability until I got the cinderswallow. Pop those both at the same time and it really does some damage.

I'm trying to find the amulet and/or chest piece too, but again, not many pickings and more cash than I have. So those are on hold. I'm a little hesitant on the amulet as I'm trying to figure out how to still have a movement gem (flame dash) which to me, is borderline a necessity (if for anything, just QOL). I guess when I drop infused channeling on the gloves, I could put it in there. I think the infused channeling was there to mitigate physical damage since it's linked with cyclone?

All in all it's toughened me up somewhat. I still am getting one-hit too often, but there's a lot less panic when in bigger mobs, that's for sure. Gotta get some more money and hope there's a few more of the items posted soon.
 

rstrohkirch

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The later, I have mixed feelings on. I hate that it petrifies.

You grabbed the wrong Rumi's. You bought the replica and you want the regular version. The regular version does up to 20% regular block and 10% spell block with no weird downsides. This is the one you want here: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ritual/KlnJMF5

I'm trying to find the amulet and/or chest piece too, but again, not many pickings and more cash than I have. So those are on hold. I'm a little hesitant on the amulet as I'm trying to figure out how to still have a movement gem (flame dash) which to me, is borderline a necessity (if for anything, just QOL).

I would dump infernal legion, move skitterbots to your helm and then have room to move in vitality off your amulet. A +1 amulet is pretty important for you as it also gives you another +1 max fire resist with a lvl 21 purity of fire.

guess when I drop infused channeling on the gloves, I could put it in there. I think the infused channeling was there to mitigate physical damage since it's linked with cyclone?

The problem you have is your crit chance is so low I wonder how often EO is up. While you're playing keep an eye in your buff bar to see how frequently elemental overload is up and running. If it's very infrequent then you need to make changes and there are multiple options. You can dump the points from it and use them somewhere else, you can swap skills to something like scorching ray for much more damage, you could swap out to flame wall for stationary damage, etc. Flame wall might be a good option for you as it's in between scorching ray and cyclone. You can drop it and run around without being stationary like scorching ray.

All in all it's toughened me up somewhat. I still am getting one-hit too often, but there's a lot less panic when in bigger mobs, that's for sure. Gotta get some more money and hope there's a few more of the items posted soon.

I would definitely fix you quicksilver flask next time you play. Turn it white, make it 20% and then roll an ample prefix and a warding suffix. Don't forget you can beastcraft the warding suffix if you get just a plain ample prefix. You should always have a warding flask by the time you get to yellow maps and definitely by red. You're cursed all the time in red maps and that is actually what kills many times. The other being maps with 2 or 3 xxx% added as an element. So keeping warding up helps a ton.

The other thing you can do that I put in the PoB but not in my post was grab a different shield. RF builds need big max fire resist numbers for their regen and you're shield really needs to have at least +2 max fire resist if not +3 if it's going to be rare. For 40c or less you can get a shield with +2 max fire, 120+ life, room to craft resist of your choice and one extra utility. The utility can be spell block chance, gems supported by CWDT, increased projectile block chance, etc. Sometimes you can even find a +3 max fire with all these things for cheap as well. Just make sure to get one that has 24% or higher block chance. Here's a link to the shields: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ritual/0pvXJ3bcg
 
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Homerboy

Lifer
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Anyone online and want to buy a jewel for me? I will pay you back tonight

40C is steal. I've only seen 3 of these for sale and all 3E+
 

Homerboy

Lifer
Mar 1, 2000
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I went online to buy it, I don't see any at 40 chaos. Too late. He's got it at 4ex.

Yeah that's the one that's been there for days. I offered him 3E and he wouldn't sell.
I'm just going to remove the Exposure Therapy and there's a bunch for sale at 10C. Good enough for now.
Thanks anyhow!
 

rstrohkirch

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Yeah that's the one that's been there for days. I offered him 3E and he wouldn't sell.
I'm just going to remove the Exposure Therapy and there's a bunch for sale at 10C. Good enough for now.
Thanks anyhow!

I would just search for the two notables on a 4 or 5 passive. You can find one for 40c with another generic small passive bonus. You're paying 2.5ex to add that .15% life regen basically. Don't forget that you only have 1 small passive you path through on a 4 or 5 cluster so it's literally 2.5ex for .15% life regen =]

Just a reminder though, those two notables show up on fire DOT, generic DOT and cold DOT cluster jewels. Don't accidently buy a cold DOT jewel, makes sure it's generic or fire.

 

Homerboy

Lifer
Mar 1, 2000
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126
I would just search for the two notables on a 4 or 5 passive. You can find one for 40c with another generic small passive bonus. You're paying 2.5ex to add .15% life regen basically. Don't forget that you only have 1 small passive you use on a 4 or 5 cluster so it's literally 2.5ex for .15% life regen =]

Just a reminder though, those two notables show up on fire DOT, generic DOT and cold DOT cluster jewels. Don't accidently buy a cold DOT jewel, makes sure it's generic or fire.
damn you're a smart egg. that opens up the options quite a bit
 

rstrohkirch

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I guess I should elaborate on that jewel. Personally, I think you should dump Deep Wisdom up through Blast Radius. That will give you 4 points. You should put those 4 points into a medium cluster jewel with Master of Fire and some other node with damage. It looks like you can find a 5 passive with Master and something else for 40-70c.

The reason I suggest this is that you get a big bonus from fire exposure. It's obviously good all the time but with your Ascendancy it's really good. The problem is that it's tied to a CWDT event. So you don't even get the use of one of your Ascendancy notables unless you take damage and they are hit by a CWDT attack. This means the actual uptime for damage is way less when it matters. If you run Master of Fire then you have 100% uptime for your fire exposure at a cost of having a slightly lower fire exposure number.

The math works out this way. Your current regular RF DPS is 449k. If you get hit then CWDT and they get his by your Wave of Conviction you go to 653k against anything hit by that. If you dump Deep Wisdom through Blast Radius and but in a Master of Fire and any other damage node you go to 600k all the time on everything. Plus you can get rid of Wave of Conviction for an actual guard skill like Steel Skin for more defense. I bet this is going to feel much better during game play as it's 25% more damage all the time vs 31% damage some of the time.

Here is another one for example: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ritual/DY456rdC5
 
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Homerboy

Lifer
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I guess I should elaborate on that jewel. Personally, I think you should dump Deep Wisdom up through Blast Radius. That will give you 4 points. You should put those 4 points into a medium cluster jewel with Master of Fire and some other node with damage. It looks like you can find a 5 passive with Master and something else for 40-70c.

The reason I suggest this is that you get a big bonus from fire exposure. It's obviously good all the time but with your Ascendancy it's really good. The problem is that it's tied to a CWDT event. So you don't even get the use of one of your Ascendancy notables unless you take damage and they are hit by a CWDT attack. This means the actual uptime for damage is way less when it matters. If you run Master of Fire then you have 100% uptime for your fire exposure at a cost of having a slightly lower fire exposure number.

The math works out this way. Your current regular RF DPS is 449k. If you get hit then CWDT and they get his by your Wave of Conviction you go to 653k against anything hit by that. If you dump Deep Wisdom through Blast Radius and but in a Master of Fire and any other damage node you go to 600k all the time on everything. Plus you can get rid of Wave of Conviction for an actual guard skill like Steel Skin for more defense. I bet this is going to feel much better during game play as it's 25% more damage all the time vs 31% damage some of the time.

Here is another one for example: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ritual/DY456rdC5

Damn... you're like my own personal Chris Wilson!

I see what you're saying and will dig into it. I meant to mention before that you suggested lowering the CWDT to L1 so that it's firing all the time. I have to say that even at lvl14, it fires pretty dang regularly. I could probably drop it a lvl or 2 for a little more consistency.

Gotta find that +1 fire amulet too. And the new chest piece... I need some cash! It seems like the ritual rewards have been nerfed or something - I feel like I used to see much better rewards (exalts etc) than I'm seeing now. Ninja nerf by GGG maybe?

Cluster jewels really are the end-game power boosters it seems.
 

rstrohkirch

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It was mostly miss for me. I certainly made a lot off of it but there was usually days of junk rewards in between. Do you dump other currency for chaos or exalts? How many fusings/jewelers/divines do you have?
 

Homerboy

Lifer
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It was mostly miss for me. I certainly made a lot off of it but there was usually days of junk rewards in between. Do you dump other currency for chaos or exalts? How many fusings/jewelers/divines do you have?

Yeah I cashed in a while ago. Still have a little more I could do though

 

rstrohkirch

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Ancient Orbs are worth 23-24c each right now and those Orbs of Unmaking are about 10c each. You could buy your cluster with those. Not sure if you use your alts but they're 3:1 chaos right now so you have over 40c in alts.

Also, if you're on later tonight I can give you whatever I have left over in my stash that I didn't give away. I know that I have at least 200c or more of stuff that you could sell if you wanted. I have a pile of t15/16 maps, essences, del orbs, guardian maps, etc.
 
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Homerboy

Lifer
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Ancient Orbs are worth 23-24c each right now and those Orbs of Unmaking are about 10c each. You could buy your cluster with those. Not sure if you use your alts but they're 3:1 chaos right now so you have over 40c in alts.

Also, if you're on later tonight I can give you whatever I have left over in my stash that I didn't give away. I know that I have at least 200c or more of stuff that you could sell if you wanted. I have a pile of t15/16 maps, essences, del orbs, guardian maps, etc.

Yeah - I know there's still some cash in there. I did a cash-out a few nights ago and its just time consuming, deflating and boring. GGG really needs to make exchanging commodities WAY easier. I understand their reluctance on an AH, but for commodities, something needs to be figured out.

I will probably be online. Not sure what time... maybe 6-9p[m CST or so. Depends on what's for dinner etc
 

rstrohkirch

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I do agree on that. Have you tried being the seller instead of trying to find someone? Force people to come to you. Since you have a premium stash tab you can just make it public and set the price then just do your thing until someone msgs you. To force large stack trades like your alts you do x/y where x is what you want and y is what you give. So you could set the alts to chaos and do 30/90 which would mean you're selling 90alts for 30c.
 
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Homerboy

Lifer
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I do agree on that. Have you tried being the seller instead of trying to find someone? Force people to come to you. Since you have a premium stash tab you can just make it public and set the price then just do your thing until someone msgs you. To force large stack trades like your alts you do x/y where x is what you want and y is what you give. So you could set the alts to chaos and do 30/90 which would mean you're selling 90alts for 30c.

I did that a few leagues ago and it was reverse spam if I recall correctly. I forgot about that option (as stupid as that sounds) I will have to try it again.
 

Homerboy

Lifer
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I do agree on that. Have you tried being the seller instead of trying to find someone? Force people to come to you. Since you have a premium stash tab you can just make it public and set the price then just do your thing until someone msgs you. To force large stack trades like your alts you do x/y where x is what you want and y is what you give. So you could set the alts to chaos and do 30/90 which would mean you're selling 90alts for 30c.

Was able to snag a cluster with Blow Back and Master of Fire last night. Ran some T14-T15 and it was pretty clean sailing. Thanks!
 

Homerboy

Lifer
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Notice much of a difference between running it all the time vs CWDT?

Well, that's what I mean. It SEEMED smoother. Though I need to take CWDT etc out of the link setup and get SS into CWDT at a lower trigger level. Hope to get to that tonight.
 

rstrohkirch

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If you're going to use a low trigger level then go Immortal Call. If you want to use a max level trigger for that other spell you have in there then use Steel Skin.
 

Homerboy

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If you're going to use a low trigger level then go Immortal Call. If you want to use a max level trigger for that other spell you have in there then use Steel Skin.

Gotcha - so remove wave of conviction. Leave CWDT (adjusted level if needed), purifying flame and combustion. Add SS/IC.
Though couldn't I leave everything as is and just bury them in lowered fire resistance? Master of Fire is -10%. But if I leave the wave of conviction that should hit them with another -26% (and combustion -19%)
 

rstrohkirch

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Exposure values don't stack, they just take the highest value. If you had MoF running it would be -10 and then if you hit them with Wave then it would go to -25. Your Ascendancy augments whatever the current exposure value is. Combustion doesn't actually add exposure it just lowers their current resistance by another 19 at the current level you have it. So Combustion will work with either Master or Wave but Wave will overwrite Master if it tags something.

Purifying Flame is decent to have in itself on trigger as it creates the consecrated ground which increases damage to monsters standing on it and gives you 6% life regen if you're standing on it. Since you have Combustion tied to it it has 49% chance to ignite and that will give you more damage as RF can't ignite on its own. The ignite is also one of the reasons most people use flamewall or scorching ray instead of cyclone. Cyclone gives more defense but the other two are big DPS boosters.
 
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