Patriots and Steelers

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: Deeko
The Steelers have the right offense for beating the Patriots. Pound the ball in the run game, no matter what, and play a smart passing game that doesn't give the Patriots the ball back. That's the philisophy the Ravens used, and the Colts WERE using early in the game when they were winning. The Pats run defense isn't great, and it keeps their offense on the sideline. It will be an interesting game, that's for sure.

They also have the right style of defensive scheme. Philly switched from their normal 4-3 to a 3-4 and was able to generate pressure. The Ravens were able to do the same with their 3-4 alignments. No team runs the 3-4 zone blitz better than Pitt with equal success against the pass or run without player substitutions. You will also see them using 2 DL, 4LB, and 5 DB at times. At the beginning of the season they mentioned they had an exotic new blitz package for their 3-4, AFAIK it has yet to be used in a game this season. If they have saved anything, expect it to be unveiled this week.

Historically the offensive player that has had the most opportunity against the 3-4 zone blitz has been the tight end, and NE has quality at that position. Pitt special teams coverage and pass protection has been horrible, if they cannot perform well in those areas they will be in serious trouble. Inconsistency in those areas were the reason for all 3 losses.

I agree it looks to be a good, close game, but I give the nod to NE to pull it out at home.

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jeeebus

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
pats will beat the steelers. They're going to lose to Miami.

I've been saying this all year. It will be the game of the century.

Not sure I can agree with this. No game of the Century can include a team that has lost to the teams Pitt has and then have a 3-0 win vs a winless team.
This will be the second biggest game this week though, with the first being obvious.

The Browns/Cinci matchup earlier this year was one of the best this season. Thankfully we will not see weather/field conditions that played such a huge part in that Miami/Pitt game. Considering your bias against Pitt and your penchant to crap in every thread where they are mentioned it is hard to take anything you say about them, or this game, seriously. You have no clue if they were mentally prepared in those losses.


This is the game of the week, which one do you think is "bigger"?

Relax buddy. What I said about pitt was followed with a . I dont need another mod warning me to not argue with you, so i am going to relax as well. I think my comments about pitt were right on in my statement. I hate the team but they do have a good D. I can still hope that Troy gets his hair pulled out .

My games of the week will always include my Seahawks. I am just a big fan, I go to every home game and I am very passionate about the Hawks, especially when they will win the NFC west this Sunday.

 

[BUTCH1]

Originally posted by: Deeko
The Steelers have the right offense for beating the Patriots. Pound the ball in the run game, no matter what, and play a smart passing game that doesn't give the Patriots the ball back. That's the philisophy the Ravens used, and the Colts WERE using early in the game when they were winning. The Pats run defense isn't great, and it keeps their offense on the sideline. It will be an interesting game, that's for sure.

I think an upset is possible as well BUT the steelers can't fall behind and let the
home crowd get into it..

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jeeebus

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
pats will beat the steelers. They're going to lose to Miami.

I've been saying this all year. It will be the game of the century.

Not sure I can agree with this. No game of the Century can include a team that has lost to the teams Pitt has and then have a 3-0 win vs a winless team.
This will be the second biggest game this week though, with the first being obvious.

You're a bit slow there aren't you.

Pats vs. Steelers is easily the biggest game of the week, and he was talking about the Miami vs. Patriots game as the biggest game of the century.

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: BUTCH1

Originally posted by: Deeko
The Steelers have the right offense for beating the Patriots. Pound the ball in the run game, no matter what, and play a smart passing game that doesn't give the Patriots the ball back. That's the philisophy the Ravens used, and the Colts WERE using early in the game when they were winning. The Pats run defense isn't great, and it keeps their offense on the sideline. It will be an interesting game, that's for sure.

I think an upset is possible as well BUT the steelers can't fall behind and let the
home crowd get into it..

Another thing too is they have to deliver the knock out punch if they are ahead toward the end of the game.

Did anyone else get REALLY pissed off when the Ravens didn't try harder for a first down during their second to last possesion? Did they really think the Pats werent looking for a run play? WTF?

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jeeebus

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
pats will beat the steelers. They're going to lose to Miami.

I've been saying this all year. It will be the game of the century.

Not sure I can agree with this. No game of the Century can include a team that has lost to the teams Pitt has and then have a 3-0 win vs a winless team.
This will be the second biggest game this week though, with the first being obvious.

You're a bit slow there aren't you.

Pats vs. Steelers is easily the biggest game of the week, and he was talking about the Miami vs. Patriots game as the biggest game of the century.

Sorry, I thought we were talking about Pitt and Pats in this thread. Obviously i was referring to my game of the week including my team. I need more coffee though.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jeeebus

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
pats will beat the steelers. They're going to lose to Miami.

I've been saying this all year. It will be the game of the century.

Not sure I can agree with this. No game of the Century can include a team that has lost to the teams Pitt has and then have a 3-0 win vs a winless team.
This will be the second biggest game this week though, with the first being obvious.

You're a bit slow there aren't you.

Pats vs. Steelers is easily the biggest game of the week, and he was talking about the Miami vs. Patriots game as the biggest game of the century.

Sorry, I thought we were talking about Pitt and Pats in this thread. Obviously i was referring to my game of the week including my team. I need more coffee though.

Yes, this thread is about the Patriots vs. Steelers, but apparently you don't read the nested quotes.

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jeeebus

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
pats will beat the steelers. They're going to lose to Miami.

I've been saying this all year. It will be the game of the century.

Not sure I can agree with this. No game of the Century can include a team that has lost to the teams Pitt has and then have a 3-0 win vs a winless team.
This will be the second biggest game this week though, with the first being obvious.

You're a bit slow there aren't you.

Pats vs. Steelers is easily the biggest game of the week, and he was talking about the Miami vs. Patriots game as the biggest game of the century.

Sorry, I thought we were talking about Pitt and Pats in this thread. Obviously i was referring to my game of the week including my team. I need more coffee though.

Yes, this thread is about the Patriots vs. Steelers, but apparently you don't read the nested quotes.

You are %100 right.

 

[SSSnail]

Originally posted by: TheoPetro
It really all depends on how each team comes to play. If the pats thing there gonna walk all over the steelers then itll be Pittsburgh's game. If the steelers decide to not play offense and little defense (first half of the browns-steelers game) they will get trounced. I will take the pats over the steelers.

I highly doubt that the Pats are thinking they'll be walking all over anyone with the passed three weeks performances. I think they'll come out swinging, but so will Steelers. It'll be a very interesting game, and I think whoever has more stamina will win this one.

Of course, I want Pats to win.

For the Fins game, I think Don Shula will suit up and go out in the field too. As much as they'd like to, the Fins won't win that game either.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jeeebus

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
pats will beat the steelers. They're going to lose to Miami.

I've been saying this all year. It will be the game of the century.

Not sure I can agree with this. No game of the Century can include a team that has lost to the teams Pitt has and then have a 3-0 win vs a winless team.
This will be the second biggest game this week though, with the first being obvious.

The Browns/Cinci matchup earlier this year was one of the best this season. Thankfully we will not see weather/field conditions that played such a huge part in that Miami/Pitt game. Considering your bias against Pitt and your penchant to crap in every thread where they are mentioned it is hard to take anything you say about them, or this game, seriously. You have no clue if they were mentally prepared in those losses.


This is the game of the week, which one do you think is "bigger"?

Relax buddy. What I said about pitt was followed with a . I dont need another mod warning me to not argue with you, so i am going to relax as well. I think my comments about pitt were right on in my statement. I hate the team but they do have a good D. I can still hope that Troy gets his hair pulled out .

My games of the week will always include my Seahawks. I am just a big fan, I go to every home game and I am very passionate about the Hawks, especially when they will win the NFC west this Sunday.

Then stop following me around in threads trying to provoke me with troll like comments. I see you didn't listen that well considering your post in the Mall shooting thread. It's bad enough I had to block you from sending me any more harassing PMs. I tried apologizing in case I offended you, I politely asked you to cease numerous times, nothing seems to work.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jeeebus

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
pats will beat the steelers. They're going to lose to Miami.

I've been saying this all year. It will be the game of the century.

Not sure I can agree with this. No game of the Century can include a team that has lost to the teams Pitt has and then have a 3-0 win vs a winless team.
This will be the second biggest game this week though, with the first being obvious.

The Browns/Cinci matchup earlier this year was one of the best this season. Thankfully we will not see weather/field conditions that played such a huge part in that Miami/Pitt game. Considering your bias against Pitt and your penchant to crap in every thread where they are mentioned it is hard to take anything you say about them, or this game, seriously. You have no clue if they were mentally prepared in those losses.


This is the game of the week, which one do you think is "bigger"?

Relax buddy. What I said about pitt was followed with a . I dont need another mod warning me to not argue with you, so i am going to relax as well. I think my comments about pitt were right on in my statement. I hate the team but they do have a good D. I can still hope that Troy gets his hair pulled out .

My games of the week will always include my Seahawks. I am just a big fan, I go to every home game and I am very passionate about the Hawks, especially when they will win the NFC west this Sunday.

Then stop following me around in threads trying to provoke me with troll like comments. I see you didn't listen that well considering your post in the Mall shooting thread. It's bad enough I had to block you from sending me any more harassing PMs. I tried apologizing in case I offended you, I politely asked you to cease numerous times, nothing seems to work.

sheesh. you are a idiot. don't you know that is a sign he has a major crush on you!?


i hope the pats win. then get stomped by miami! hah that would be funny

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Jeeebus

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
pats will beat the steelers. They're going to lose to Miami.

I've been saying this all year. It will be the game of the century.

Not sure I can agree with this. No game of the Century can include a team that has lost to the teams Pitt has and then have a 3-0 win vs a winless team.
This will be the second biggest game this week though, with the first being obvious.

The Browns/Cinci matchup earlier this year was one of the best this season. Thankfully we will not see weather/field conditions that played such a huge part in that Miami/Pitt game. Considering your bias against Pitt and your penchant to crap in every thread where they are mentioned it is hard to take anything you say about them, or this game, seriously. You have no clue if they were mentally prepared in those losses.


This is the game of the week, which one do you think is "bigger"?

Relax buddy. What I said about pitt was followed with a . I dont need another mod warning me to not argue with you, so i am going to relax as well. I think my comments about pitt were right on in my statement. I hate the team but they do have a good D. I can still hope that Troy gets his hair pulled out .

My games of the week will always include my Seahawks. I am just a big fan, I go to every home game and I am very passionate about the Hawks, especially when they will win the NFC west this Sunday.

Then stop following me around in threads trying to provoke me with troll like comments. I see you didn't listen that well considering your post in the Mall shooting thread. It's bad enough I had to block you from sending me any more harassing PMs. I tried apologizing in case I offended you, I politely asked you to cease numerous times, nothing seems to work.

Jesus, you are crazy. Sorry guys, I am done with this thread for a while.

 

[Deeko]

Alistar, I don't want to get in the middle of this, but in the mall shooting thread he was relating what you said to a movie...it seemed pretty lighthearted and not trolling at all.

Anyway, on topic...yes, the Steelers defense should be able to put good pressure on Brady. Is Polamalu playing? I gotta still pick the Patriots, they're what, 743-0 now. but they look more vulnerable every week.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: SSSnail

Originally posted by: TheoPetro
It really all depends on how each team comes to play. If the pats thing there gonna walk all over the steelers then itll be Pittsburgh's game. If the steelers decide to not play offense and little defense (first half of the browns-steelers game) they will get trounced. I will take the pats over the steelers.

I highly doubt that the Pats are thinking they'll be walking all over anyone with the passed three weeks performances. I think they'll come out swinging, but so will Steelers. It'll be a very interesting game, and I think whoever has more stamina will win this one.

Of course, I want Pats to win.

For the Fins game, I think Don Shula will suit up and go out in the field too. As much as they'd like to, the Fins won't win that game either.

If NE wins this game I want them to run the table (unless they meet up against Pitt in the postseason) just to shut Shula up for good. I'll personally go knock on Mercury's door and give him a bottle of champagne, for old times sake lol.

By that game NE will have home field locked up, in your opinion is it worth the risk ofinjury to try for the perfect record if it is still intact? Or should they rest key players to give them the best advantage heading into the playoffs?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Alistar, I don't want to get in the middle of this, but in the mall shooting thread he was relating what you said to a movie...it seemed pretty lighthearted and not trolling at all.

Anyway, on topic...yes, the Steelers defense should be able to put good pressure on Brady. Is Polamalu playing? I gotta still pick the Patriots, they're what, 743-0 now. but they look more vulnerable every week.

and worse the team they are playing the worse the pats play. so i think the steelers game is going to be a good game with the pats winning. now when they play miami they are going to look like crap and lose!

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: Alistar7
By that game NE will have home field locked up, in your opinion is it worth the risk ofinjury to try for the perfect record if it is still intact? Or should they rest key players to give them the best advantage heading into the playoffs?

They will be barely better than the 1998 Vikings if they run the table but lose in the playoffs. I think Bellichek knows this. They'd be foolish not to rest their starters for the playoffs, plus, what bigger kick in the teeth would it be if they ran the table with Matt Cassel, Jabbar Gafney, and Heath Evans starting?

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: Deeko
Alistar, I don't want to get in the middle of this, but in the mall shooting thread he was relating what you said to a movie...it seemed pretty lighthearted and not trolling at all.

Anyway, on topic...yes, the Steelers defense should be able to put good pressure on Brady. Is Polamalu playing? I gotta still pick the Patriots, they're what, 743-0 now. but they look more vulnerable every week.

Well, like he just said, I am crazy. Did not see the movie in question, nor will I give him the benefit of the doubt considering recent circumstances.

All of the starters on the injury report are listed as questionable, but it has been reported they will start. Personally, I think Troy's injury is more serious than they are disclosing and like most teams they are using the injury report status to try and give the opposition as many questions as possible. Even if he does start and play the whole game, I doubt he will be anywhere near 100%. He has been in and out of the lineup all season and even when he has played, it has not been at his normal level. It would be great to be wrong, that they sat him the past couple of weeks to give him as much time as possible to heal/rest just for this game.

Holmes is another big key for Pitt, they need him to stretch the field. Marvel Smith would be a slight upgrade over the struggling Starks at tackle.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Alistar7
By that game NE will have home field locked up, in your opinion is it worth the risk ofinjury to try for the perfect record if it is still intact? Or should they rest key players to give them the best advantage heading into the playoffs?

They will be barely better than the 1998 Vikings if they run the table but lose in the playoffs. I think Bellichek knows this. They'd be foolish not to rest their starters for the playoffs, plus, what bigger kick in the teeth would it be if they ran the table with Matt Cassel, Jabbar Gafney, and Heath Evans starting?

What about defensively? The players with the most need of rest would be their LBs, but they don't really have enough depth. Any idea if Chad Brown will be activated for this game?

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Jeeebus

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
pats will beat the steelers. They're going to lose to Miami.

I've been saying this all year. It will be the game of the century.

It's only a regular season game, come January it will mean nothing.

BWAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. I find that hilarious. Pats are going to beat them so bad Don Shula is going to feel it in his heart watching from the stands. I predict 52-10. I will take anyone's bet that says Dolphins will win straight up.

 

[videogames101]

Prediction:

34-24

Pats

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Alistar7
By that game NE will have home field locked up, in your opinion is it worth the risk ofinjury to try for the perfect record if it is still intact? Or should they rest key players to give them the best advantage heading into the playoffs?

They will be barely better than the 1998 Vikings if they run the table but lose in the playoffs. I think Bellichek knows this. They'd be foolish not to rest their starters for the playoffs, plus, what bigger kick in the teeth would it be if they ran the table with Matt Cassel, Jabbar Gafney, and Heath Evans starting?

What about defensively? The players with the most need of rest would be their LBs, but they don't really have enough depth. Any idea if Chad Brown will be activated for this game?

No idea...you're right though, their LBs are old and definitely need the rest. I think they can play their sub-par backups late in the season though, because if homefield advantage is already locked up, what difference does it make? The biggest issue I see with playing Brady though is injuries...the last game of the season, they play the Giants. If the Giants do anything well, its rush the passer. I wouldn't want to risk my franchise QB right before the playoffs in a meaningless game, not with the likes of Stahan and Umenyora rushing him (and possibly still fighting for seeding/a playoff spot).

 

[PepePeru]

Steelers win on a FG in the 4th quarter!

 

[2Xtreme21]

Originally posted by: G Wizard
Pats win on a FG in the 4th quarter!

Fixed. I can see the Patriots coming out ahead 10-0 in the first quarter, the Steelers battling their way to a score around 27-24, Pats tying it up with ~ 3:00 minutes to play, the Steelers getting screwed on a penalty and having to punt, Brady moving the ball to the Steelers 30, and Gostkowski nailing a FG as time expires.

As much as I want to see my Steelers dethroning the Pats like they did in '04 after the Pats won some enormous amount of consecutive games, this won't happen on Sunday. I'll still be rooting for them though.

 

[Alistar7]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Alistar7

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Alistar7
By that game NE will have home field locked up, in your opinion is it worth the risk ofinjury to try for the perfect record if it is still intact? Or should they rest key players to give them the best advantage heading into the playoffs?

They will be barely better than the 1998 Vikings if they run the table but lose in the playoffs. I think Bellichek knows this. They'd be foolish not to rest their starters for the playoffs, plus, what bigger kick in the teeth would it be if they ran the table with Matt Cassel, Jabbar Gafney, and Heath Evans starting?

What about defensively? The players with the most need of rest would be their LBs, but they don't really have enough depth. Any idea if Chad Brown will be activated for this game?

No idea...you're right though, their LBs are old and definitely need the rest. I think they can play their sub-par backups late in the season though, because if homefield advantage is already locked up, what difference does it make? The biggest issue I see with playing Brady though is injuries...the last game of the season, they play the Giants. If the Giants do anything well, its rush the passer. I wouldn't want to risk my franchise QB right before the playoffs in a meaningless game, not with the likes of Stahan and Umenyora rushing him (and possibly still fighting for seeding/a playoff spot).

Willing to bet BB would be relieved with a regular season loss after locking up home field. That would give him the chance to rest anyone he desired without any backlash.

 

[cw42]

Miami is gonna beat the Pats, not the Steelers.