Patriots TE Hernandez in big trouble

[techs]

And still no one believes he's innocent?

 

[gorcorps]

And still no one believes he's innocent?

lol

 

[dud]

And still no one believes he's innocent?

He is innocent until proven guilty. Unfortunately for him he didn't do a very good job covering up his crimes. His sleazy lawyer claims that the evidence collected is merely "circumstancial". Regardless, the mountain of evidence will almost assuridly end up convicting him.

 

[mugs]

He is innocent until proven guilty. Unfortunately for him he didn't do a very good job covering up his crimes. His sleazy lawyer claims that the evidence collected is merely "circumstancial". Regardless, the mountain of evidence will almost assuridly end up convicting him.

He's presumed innocent until proven guilty. He's either innocent or guilty right now, and it's dependent on whether he killed a dude, not on what a jury says.

 

[apac]

With all this evidence, why would he ever plead not guilty? I don't get it.

 

[nehalem256]

With all this evidence, why would he ever plead not guilty? I don't get it.

What would he gain by pleading guilty?

 

[ghost recon88]

What would he gain by pleading guilty?

Save everyone's time and money

 

[MontyAC]

I think one of his hoomies will rat on him for a reduced sentence. AH will most likely live out the rest of his life in prison.

 

[tynopik]

His sleazy lawyer claims that the evidence collected is merely "circumstancial".

His lawyer isn't wrong.

None of the evidence released so far proves that AH actually pulled the trigger.

 

[Via]

In the Ray Lewis case (iirc) none of the guys in Lewis' posse cracked. Nobody rolled, and that's the reason they prison sentences were relatively light for murder. They couldn't prove who the actual murderer was and the defense picked a great jury.

I'm curious how much this situation will mimic that one. Will all of the dudes clam up fro the long haul?

 

[Agent11]

From the information that has been released it sounds like someone already turned. + rental car evidence and the evidence tampering = doomed.

 

[MontyAC]

They caught the 3rd man involved. He took a trip to Florida. I wonder if he was on the run.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...rnandez-murder-probe-puma-drops-nfl-star?lite

 

[techs]

It's looking more and more like Hernandez is innocent and the police are trying to frame him.

 

[SunnyD]

It's looking more and more like Hernandez is innocent and the police are trying to frame him.

Spoken like a true pats lackie.

 

[mugs]

It's looking more and more like Hernandez is innocent and the police are trying to frame him.

Shut up, no one is falling for your trolling.

 

[BUTCH1]

It's looking more and more like Hernandez is innocent and the police are trying to frame him.

Wow, can I politely ask you to stop being a Pat's fan? it just makes it hard on the rest of us "normal" fans with post's like that. I would wish it was all just a bad dream, but it's not. Do you not think the PD would not have a very solid case against him to arrest him on murder#1?, of course they do, they would not embarrass themselves by arresting him if they didn't. The Pat's "O" is F-'ed big time, H in jail, gone, Gronk recovering from yet another surgery, Welker, gone, Lloyd gone, Woodhead, gone, Branch, gone. That's about 80% of the completed passes TB threw last season and of course our D craps out in big moments, (ask a Giant's fan, they love our D)..

 

[GagHalfrunt]

His lawyer isn't wrong.

None of the evidence released so far proves that AH actually pulled the trigger.

Other than murders committed on camera it's completely impossible to prove a specific person pulled the trigger. Even gunpowder residue on the hands, the victims blood on the clothes, a shell casing in the pocket and a signed confession don't prove anything. A gunpowder can come from a session at the target range, the blood can be from helping the victim with a nosebleed the day before, the shell casing could be saved to turn into a lighter and the confession could be coerced. Or signed by a mentally incompetent suspect. Not a single bit of that is really proof of jack. But if you have a suspect with gunpowder residue and the victims blood and a shell casing on his person he's going to get convicted. And so is Hernandez. Short of a Predator drone that flew overhead at exactly the right moment and captured him pulling the trigger on high-res video, there couldn't be any more damning evidence than what the police already have. This guy is signed, sealed and delivered, he could not have made any more or any larger mistakes to implicate himself further. He's guilty and the fact that the evidence does not 150% PROVE it won't change things. If a jury can't convict him on what the police already have then no suspect can every get convicted of anything. He's hosed.

 

[techs]

Wow, can I politely ask you to stop being a Pat's fan? it just makes it hard on the rest of us "normal" fans with post's like that. I would wish it was all just a bad dream, but it's not. Do you not think the PD would not have a very solid case against him to arrest him on murder#1?, of course they do, they would not embarrass themselves by arresting him if they didn't. The Pat's "O" is F-'ed big time, H in jail, gone, Gronk recovering from yet another surgery, Welker, gone, Lloyd gone, Woodhead, gone, Branch, gone. That's about 80% of the completed passes TB threw last season and of course our D craps out in big moments, (ask a Giant's fan, they love our D)..

Can't anyone take a joke these days

 

[BUTCH1]

Can't anyone take a joke these days

Yea, a good one with some actual humor and thought behind it, I can..

 

[KK]

Yea, a good one with some actual humor and thought behind it, I can..

Get the stick outta your ass, you putz.

 

[BUTCH1]

Get the stick outta your ass, you putz.

But I like it there...

 

[KK]

But I like it there...

That's what hernandez says.

 

[SunnyD]

That's what hernandez says.

See, now THAT'S humor!

 

[tynopik]

the shell casing could be saved to turn into a lighter and the confession could be coerced. Or signed by a mentally incompetent suspect.

first of all, circumstantial evidence is evidence that doesn't prove it EVEN IF IT IS 100% ACCURATE

even if everything the police said is true, it doesn't mean AH actually murdered anyone

otoh, confessions/statements from the other people in the car would be direct evidence

if his friend says 'I saw AH pull the victim out of the car and execute him with his pistol', that's direct evidence.

It may be wrong, coerced, faked, whatever, but it is not 'circumstantial'

He's guilty and the fact that the evidence does not 150% PROVE it won't change things. If a jury can't convict him on what the police already have then no suspect can every get convicted of anything. He's hosed.

secondly, I was in no way implying that circumstantial evidence is insufficient to get a conviction or that there's anything wrong with circumstantial evidence. Plenty of people have been and will continue to be convicted, and rightfully so, based solely on circumstantial evidence.

I was merely pointing out that his lawyer was correct about his claim that the evidence was solely circumstantial.

Now you can argue about the value/import of his claim. As I just said, even though all the evidence is circumstantial, it doesn't mean the prosecution doesn't have a strong case

 

[Anubis]

i hope hes guilty just to piss off you homers