Patriots TE Hernandez in big trouble

[AMDZen]

What kind of society we live in which a simple murder is being tracked by everything? The uses of our phones turn against us, that is just not right.

That's why they make burner's, its not that hard

 

[KK]

What kind of society we live in which a simple murder is being tracked by everything? The uses of our phones turn against us, that is just not right.

I turn mine off about fifteen minutes beforehand and turn it back on 30 minutes after. So far no issues.

 

[BUTCH1]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...being-investigated-2012-double-165259897.html

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Abreu, Furtado and three others left the club, and were stopped at a light when a "silver or gray SUV with Rhode Island license plates" pulled alongside them, according to the Globe. Abreu and Furtado were shot and killed but the other three men survived."

Eventually teams are going to enact the Dez Bryant policy on their key players and put a babysitter on them and prohibit them from being anywhere close to a "club" in the wee hours of the night.

F-ing bone head, you've made the big time NFL money, plays for a contender, has all the material trappings that kind of $$ brings, your a father to a one year old, YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING IN A STRIP CLUB AT ALL MORON. I'm glad bail is denied, he can resurrect Perry F-ing Mason and he's still a gone'r, have fun at the graybar hotel idiot, now that poor kid will only get to see her dad during prison visits..

 

[mike208]

I really don't understand the need for the sealed affidavit, unless my thought process is way off.

Hernandez and 2 others roll out and "allegedly" kill a man. Hernandez and 1 other are arrested and the prosecutors know details of the conversations said between the 4 people(including the now dead guy) in the car. Seems pretty obvious who the narc is. I mean granted hernandez is clearly one of the dumbest people on the planet, but surely someone would have done this math for him.

But if I was the other guy I wouldn't worry to much, since again Hernandez "allegedly" takes care of his own business, rather then using some of his millions to have someone else do it for him.

 

[MontyAC]

Need confirmation. Seems they have found the car involved in the 2012 killings.

“@AdamSchefter: Boston PD has located red SUV it was looking for as identified in July 2012 homicide. Aaron Hernandez rented it.”

 

[Pocatello]

Need confirmation. Seems they have found the car involved in the 2012 killings.

“@AdamSchefter: Boston PD has located red SUV it was looking for as identified in July 2012 homicide. Aaron Hernandez rented it.”

So during the off season, this Hernandez kept himself busy.

 

[Fern]

What kind of society we live in which a simple murder is being tracked by everything? The uses of our phones turn against us, that is just not right.

You have a point.

Fern

 

[MH2007]

Does killing three people make him a serial killer?

Actually if the first two were at the same time I don't think he meets the definition.

 

[Jeeebus]

Does killing three people make him a serial killer?

Actually if the first two were at the same time I don't think he meets the definition.

You can kill 50 - 100 people and not be a serial killer. Mass killer is not the same as serial killer. If he was killing people for particular attributes, in the same ritualistic fashion, etc. then he may be considered a serial killer. As it currently stands, he's a thug and that's about it.

 

[uclaLabrat]

Man, Hernandez is killing it in the off season! The way he shot up the field after that last hit, amazing!





Too soon?

 

[woolfe9998]

Does killing three people make him a serial killer?

Actually if the first two were at the same time I don't think he meets the definition.

If he's been hanging around with the kind of friends you can call to come help you execute someone for a good long while, I suspect he's been a party to more than 3 killings.

 

[Fern]

If he's been hanging around with the kind of friends you can call to come help you execute someone for a good long while, I suspect he's been a party to more than 3 killings.

Yep.

And he seems pretty damn casual about doing it too.

Fern

 

[woolfe9998]

Judge: evidence circumstantial for sure, but VERY VERY strong.

BAIL DENIED

If they have a sealed affidavit from a co-conspirator, then they have an eye-witness, so technically the case is no longer purely "circumstantial." Though as the judge said, even without an eye-witness, it's a damn powerful case.

 

[1sikbITCH]

i have friends who would help me kill someone and dispose of a body
doesnt everyone?

I used to.

I had to dig the last hole myself :biggrin:

 

[SP33Demon]

This trash needs to be put on death row and executed.

 

[zinfamous]

On which side of the snitches debate do you guys think Hernandez stands?

 

[Gibsons]

I really don't understand the need for the sealed affidavit, unless my thought process is way off.

Hernandez and 2 others roll out and "allegedly" kill a man. Hernandez and 1 other are arrested and the prosecutors know details of the conversations said between the 4 people(including the now dead guy) in the car. Seems pretty obvious who the narc is. I mean granted hernandez is clearly one of the dumbest people on the planet, but surely someone would have done this math for him.

But if I was the other guy I wouldn't worry to much, since again Hernandez "allegedly" takes care of his own business, rather then using some of his millions to have someone else do it for him.

He has his homies and a large bankroll.

 

[1sikbITCH]

I really don't understand the need for the sealed affidavit, unless my thought process is way off.

Hernandez and 2 others roll out and "allegedly" kill a man. Hernandez and 1 other are arrested and the prosecutors know details of the conversations said between the 4 people(including the now dead guy) in the car. Seems pretty obvious who the narc is. I mean granted hernandez is clearly one of the dumbest people on the planet, but surely someone would have done this math for him.

But if I was the other guy I wouldn't worry to much, since again Hernandez "allegedly" takes care of his own business, rather then using some of his millions to have someone else do it for him.

Evidently the affidavit speaks to a much larger investigation than just this one murder:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-fbn-patriots-news-20130627,0,881909.story

 

[MH2007]

You can kill 50 - 100 people and not be a serial killer. Mass killer is not the same as serial killer. If he was killing people for particular attributes, in the same ritualistic fashion, etc. then he may be considered a serial killer. As it currently stands, he's a thug and that's about it.

If he's been hanging around with the kind of friends you can call to come help you execute someone for a good long while, I suspect he's been a party to more than 3 killings.

The term "serial killer" refers to someone who has killed at least three people with a period of cooling down between each killing. It's a minor point but just something I was curious about when I heard about the other murder investigation he was getting looked at for.

EDIT: I do agree it's quite possible he's killed someone else before so the details I was pointing out might possibly be moot.

 

[Paladin3]

What kind of society we live in which a simple murder is being tracked by everything? The uses of our phones turn against us, that is just not right.

What kind of society do we live in when a simple murder is being tracked by everything? Our own fingerprints are turned against us, that is just not right.

 

[twinrider1]

Hey, how did they find all the cell/surveillance info so fast?
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The Patriot Act.

Heyoooooooooo. Try the veal.

 

[Thegonagle]

That's why they make burner's, its not that hard

Even if you pay cash for the phone and airtime cards, there's a record of the activation scans made at the time of purchase. Investigators can walk into the store where you bought the phone, or where you bought your last refill, and ask the manager to bring up the hi-def video of you buying it. Most retail stores probably keep video for at least a few weeks, if not months. So it's not that simple, either.

 

[apac]

Heard this one on the radio today.

Why did Aaron Hernandez call Wes Welker earlier this week?

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He needed a white Bronco

 

[BUTCH1]

Even if you pay cash for the phone and airtime cards, there's a record of the activation scans made at the time of purchase. Investigators can walk into the store where you bought the phone, or where you bought your last refill, and ask the manager to bring up the hi-def video of you buying it. Most retail stores probably keep video for at least a few weeks, if not months. So it's not that simple, either.

Yep and here's something weird, I scan the help wanted daily (since I'm job hunting) and more than a few times on CL I've come across people looking to pay someone to go to a store and buy some "items", (not specified). Not the typical you receive it and ship it back out deal, these were $$ + pay in advance, go buy "items", make $20. We had a lumnut crook postal driver who learned to recognize Walmart gift cards which she "culled" out during her route, when the family's called the USPS to complain, USPS contacted wally and with the stored info from the prepaid card's #'s they were able to identify the driver in plain view of the checkout surveillance area camera's, spending the loot. Fired from USPS job, multiple felony charges filed, not too bright or not familiar with today's technology..

 

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