Patriots vs Chargers

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redgtxdi

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I'm just disgusted with the chargers tonight.








They have NOBODY to blame, but themselves. (Though I think Rivers and LT did a good job tonight, it's still a team effort.)

Oh..........I'm also royally pissed at Schottenheimer and put 50% of the blame on his shoulders. He didn't handle this playoff game like a PLAYOFF game. You HAVE to get serious in the playoffs......period!
 

Reckoner

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Originally posted by: redgtxdi
I'm just disgusted with the chargers tonight.








They have NOBODY to blame, but themselves. (Though I think Rivers and LT did a good job tonight, it's still a team effort.)

Oh..........I'm also royally pissed at Schottenheimer and put 50% of the blame on his shoulders. He didn't handle this playoff game like a PLAYOFF game. You HAVE to get serious in the playoffs......period!


I think it's funny that Schotty doesn't call any plays, just "manages" the game, and he can't even handle the timeout/challenge aspect.
 

Tommouse

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Anyone have a youtube or some other link to the end of the game or the LT press conference? I want to see that again, I wanna know what happened, and make my own opinion, not get fed what the talking heads wanna serve up.
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: redgtxdi
I'm just disgusted with the chargers tonight.








They have NOBODY to blame, but themselves. (Though I think Rivers and LT did a good job tonight, it's still a team effort.)

Oh..........I'm also royally pissed at Schottenheimer and put 50% of the blame on his shoulders. He didn't handle this playoff game like a PLAYOFF game. You HAVE to get serious in the playoffs......period!


I think it's funny that Schotty doesn't call any plays, just "manages" the game, and he can't even handle the timeout/challenge aspect.

Well said. He used up those timeouts like they were toilet paper. Which made me smile inside of course .
 

KLin

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Feb 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: redgtxdi
I'm just disgusted with the chargers tonight.








They have NOBODY to blame, but themselves. (Though I think Rivers and LT did a good job tonight, it's still a team effort.)

Oh..........I'm also royally pissed at Schottenheimer and put 50% of the blame on his shoulders. He didn't handle this playoff game like a PLAYOFF game. You HAVE to get serious in the playoffs......period!


I think it's funny that Schotty doesn't call any plays, just "manages" the game, and he can't even handle the timeout/challenge aspect.

Well said. He used up those timeouts like they were toilet paper. Which made me smile inside of course .

That challenge he called was just stupid. He should be fired just for throwing the flag on that play.
 

imported_Lothar

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Brady ended with 27 completions in 51 attempts for 280 yards, connecting for two touchdowns. Brady was intercepted thrice, including the one by McCree which ended as a positive play for New England.

Can someone explain that part?
What happened there?
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: Lothar
Brady ended with 27 completions in 51 attempts for 280 yards, connecting for two touchdowns. Brady was intercepted thrice, including the one by McCree which ended as a positive play for New England.

Can someone explain that part?
What happened there?

He was picked off, troy brown stripped the ball from the charger defender, and the pats recovered the fumble. 1st down for the pats.
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: Lothar
Brady ended with 27 completions in 51 attempts for 280 yards, connecting for two touchdowns. Brady was intercepted thrice, including the one by McCree which ended as a positive play for New England.

Can someone explain that part?
What happened there?

He was picked off, troy brown stripped the ball from the charger defender, and the pats recovered the fumble. 1st down for the pats.

Interesting...
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: Captante
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Captante
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Sphexi
Brady > *

Even if the Chargers had Jesus playing for them, it wouldn't help.

Honestly, if you had watched the game, you'd know it wasn't Brady who won it for the Patriots.

It was the Chargers who lost it. I don't think I have seen more mistakes in a professional football game, and I am a Panthers fan.


You can say whatever you want about Brady & the Pats, but they managed to stay just close enough to take advantage of the SD mistakes & snatch this game out of the fire.

I watched every play & am a Giants fan btw, so I know the difference between doing just enough to win & doing just enough to lose!

What? I am not even bashing Brady here, but you'd have to be retarded to not see that the Chargers completely fvcked this game up.

In fact, it was amazing the Chargers were even in a position to take it into OT considering all of the mistakes they made.


Oh I completely agree with you ... SD handed this game to the Pats on a silver platter.

I wasn't trying to say you were bashing Brady exactly, but most other teams in the NFL would have lost this game & the Patriots deserve a lot of credit for winning.

We are not on quite the same page here. Yes we agree that SD handed the Pats the game on a silver platter, but I think you're giving the Pats too much credit.

Most other teams in the NFL couldn't win this game when the opponent (being the Chargers) make this many mistakes (and serious ones at that) ? I think not. They had three interceptions from the man himself but did jack ****** any one of them.

I think the NE o-line deserves the most credit for all but completely neutralizing the Chargers pass rush. The obviously prepared well. The Chargers defense was out there far too long and couldn't get pressure or cover well enough to get the job done.

 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: totalcommand
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Captante
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Sphexi
Brady > *

Even if the Chargers had Jesus playing for them, it wouldn't help.

Honestly, if you had watched the game, you'd know it wasn't Brady who won it for the Patriots.

It was the Chargers who lost it. I don't think I have seen more mistakes in a professional football game, and I am a Panthers fan.


You can say whatever you want about Brady & the Pats, but they managed to stay just close enough to take advantage of the SD mistakes & snatch this game out of the fire.

I watched every play & am a Giants fan btw, so I know the difference between doing just enough to win & doing just enough to lose!

What? I am not even bashing Brady here, but you'd have to be retarded to not see that the Chargers completely fvcked this game up.

In fact, it was amazing the Chargers were even in a position to take it into OT considering all of the mistakes they made.

It was amazing that the Patriots stayed in position to win. In the end, the Pats manned up and the Chargers didn't. Period. Pats deserve all the credit in the world for that.

Not you too. How the fvck is it amazing the Patriots stayed in a position to win considering the circumstances? Did you actually watch the game?

 

Captante

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Oct 20, 2003
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Originally posted by: iRONic
Originally posted by: iRONic
Patriots by a field goal.

Brady is Mr. Playoff, Asante and the DB's have tightened up their game. As far as LT running amok; Wilfork-Warren-Seymour and Vrabel-Bruschi-Banta Cain!

'Nuff said...

So much for my prediction that LT would be contained...

Hehe ... The Pats didn't need to contain him, Marty & his offensive staff took care of him on their own!

 

Captante

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Captante
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Captante
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Sphexi
Brady > *

Even if the Chargers had Jesus playing for them, it wouldn't help.

Honestly, if you had watched the game, you'd know it wasn't Brady who won it for the Patriots.

It was the Chargers who lost it. I don't think I have seen more mistakes in a professional football game, and I am a Panthers fan.


You can say whatever you want about Brady & the Pats, but they managed to stay just close enough to take advantage of the SD mistakes & snatch this game out of the fire.

I watched every play & am a Giants fan btw, so I know the difference between doing just enough to win & doing just enough to lose!

What? I am not even bashing Brady here, but you'd have to be retarded to not see that the Chargers completely fvcked this game up.

In fact, it was amazing the Chargers were even in a position to take it into OT considering all of the mistakes they made.


Oh I completely agree with you ... SD handed this game to the Pats on a silver platter.

I wasn't trying to say you were bashing Brady exactly, but most other teams in the NFL would have lost this game & the Patriots deserve a lot of credit for winning.

We are not on quite the same page here. Yes we agree that SD handed the Pats the game on a silver platter, but I think you're giving the Pats too much credit.

Most other teams in the NFL couldn't win this game when the opponent (being the Chargers) make this many mistakes (and serious ones at that) ? I think not. They had three interceptions from the man himself but did jack ****** any one of them.

I think the NE o-line deserves the most credit for all but completely neutralizing the Chargers pass rush. The obviously prepared well. The Chargers defense was out there far too long and couldn't get pressure or cover well enough to get the job done.


We certainly disagree about some things ... from what I saw the Pats offensive line got man-handled by the Chargers pass rush for most of the game, SD shut down their running game & until Brady went into the shotgun they pressured him into many mistakes he doesn't often make.

There are quite a few specific blunders in this game you could point to & say "theres where SD lost it", but my opinion is that since NE had shown NO ability to stop LT & the running game, perhaps it would have been wise to stick with it & only pass often enough to keep NE's D guessing... from what I saw NE's D was sucking wind from the pounding they were taking, then for some inexplicable reason SD let up on them.

To sum it up (as I said earlier) the decision to move away from the running game when it was working VERY well was what really cost SD this game despite the turnovers, stupid penalties & sloppy play at times ... the Patriots were able to take advantage of this despite playing quite badly themselves and for that I do give them full credit.

What we do agree on is that SD handed NE the game, however you seem to feel that NE taking it when offered wasn't worth much.

 

n2gc

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Stupid Bowl Predictions. Pats v Bears with Pats taking the chrome ball to the
Northeast. Whenever it's playoff time, Brady finds a way to get the ball down
field. I'm hoping it's Indy and NO, but I've been hoping I'd win the lottery and
that hasn't paid off yet..
 

BlancoNino

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I'm still standing by my pick of Indianapolis to go to the Super Bowl. I also picked the Seahawks, but not because I really thought they'd go, but because I had to (they're my team!).

I think New Orleans vs Indianapolis is going to be my prediction. If i'm wrong, I guess I'll never make it as a sports analyst.
 

rsd

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Originally posted by: Deeko
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs06/news/story?id=2731727

If what they're saying is true, I think some of you can retract the "LT is an asshole" sentiments.

Why? You open yourself up to that when you do a stupid dance like that in the first place. Merriman did his stupid jig when he got a HURRY on Brady (and the only time he had a chance to do the dance). So please...if you can't deal with it don't make an @ss out of yourself in the first place (I'm referring to the chargers).

Also if you don't follow the Patriots regularly...they aren't "choirboys". They will talk some trash and punch you in the face. This is a tough game. It's not flag football boys.


EDIT: Also don't think the Patriots forgot about last year's blow out by the chargers. Florance was quoted as saying to the NE Fans in the stands telling them to "wipe that fvcking shocked looked off their face" (paraphrased).
And Wade Philips (their D coord), saying "That was an ass-wooping".
 

rsd

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Originally posted by: Captante
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Captante
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Captante
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Sphexi
Brady > *

Even if the Chargers had Jesus playing for them, it wouldn't help.

Honestly, if you had watched the game, you'd know it wasn't Brady who won it for the Patriots.

It was the Chargers who lost it. I don't think I have seen more mistakes in a professional football game, and I am a Panthers fan.


You can say whatever you want about Brady & the Pats, but they managed to stay just close enough to take advantage of the SD mistakes & snatch this game out of the fire.

I watched every play & am a Giants fan btw, so I know the difference between doing just enough to win & doing just enough to lose!

What? I am not even bashing Brady here, but you'd have to be retarded to not see that the Chargers completely fvcked this game up.

In fact, it was amazing the Chargers were even in a position to take it into OT considering all of the mistakes they made.


Oh I completely agree with you ... SD handed this game to the Pats on a silver platter.

I wasn't trying to say you were bashing Brady exactly, but most other teams in the NFL would have lost this game & the Patriots deserve a lot of credit for winning.

We are not on quite the same page here. Yes we agree that SD handed the Pats the game on a silver platter, but I think you're giving the Pats too much credit.

Most other teams in the NFL couldn't win this game when the opponent (being the Chargers) make this many mistakes (and serious ones at that) ? I think not. They had three interceptions from the man himself but did jack ****** any one of them.

I think the NE o-line deserves the most credit for all but completely neutralizing the Chargers pass rush. The obviously prepared well. The Chargers defense was out there far too long and couldn't get pressure or cover well enough to get the job done.


We certainly disagree about some things ... from what I saw the Pats offensive line got man-handled by the Chargers pass rush for most of the game, SD shut down their running game & until Brady went into the shotgun they pressured him into many mistakes he doesn't often make.

There are quite a few specific blunders in this game you could point to & say "theres where SD lost it", but my opinion is that since NE had shown NO ability to stop LT & the running game, perhaps it would have been wise to stick with it & only pass often enough to keep NE's D guessing... from what I saw NE's D was sucking wind from the pounding they were taking, then for some inexplicable reason SD let up on them.

To sum it up (as I said earlier) the decision to move away from the running game when it was working VERY well was what really cost SD this game despite the turnovers, stupid penalties & sloppy play at times ... the Patriots were able to take advantage of this despite playing quite badly themselves and for that I do give them full credit.

What we do agree on is that SD handed NE the game, however you seem to feel that NE taking it when offered wasn't worth much.

I just want to comment about your opinion on the NE OL. I COMPLETELY disagree and will say that they did a FANTASTIC job containing the chargers. The chargers besides Merriman/Phillips blitzed a ton, yet barely got much pressure on brady. I'd give kudos to their lb's and secondary, but the NE offensive line played fantastic.
 

Deeko

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No, I'm sorry, but you're wrong. Its one thing to celebrate. Its another thing to mock someone's dance after YOU get a big play. But after the game, to celebrate by running out to the midfield logo, pointing at the scoreboard, AND mocking someone's dance? That's purely classless, and LT is absolutely right. Plus, the point is that someone on here was calling out LT for being an asshole for getting upset by it. How does that make him an asshole?
 

rsd

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Originally posted by: Deeko
No, I'm sorry, but you're wrong. Its one thing to celebrate. Its another thing to mock someone's dance after YOU get a big play. But after the game, to celebrate by running out to the midfield logo, pointing at the scoreboard, AND mocking someone's dance? That's purely classless, and LT is absolutely right. Plus, the point is that someone on here was calling out LT for being an asshole for getting upset by it. How does that make him an asshole?

Yes you're right, they should have cake and share their toys after the game. Give me a break, if you can't deal with having your taunts dealt back to you then don't do it in the first place. If you don't think the Chargers did their fair share of taunting/trash talk before and during the game (see: Florance's headbutt. I'm sure he was asking Graham how his day was going), then you're in denial.

EDIT: I'll say I don't necessarily agree with the Patriots mocking the Chargers after the game. But I can understand that if all they have been hearing from them is trash talk and taunting leading to the game and during it, then I understand their reaction. If the Chargers don't like it, my suggestion is to realize that Superbowls aren't handed to you just because you have a 14-2 record and the most pro-bowlers. They EARNED. Stop making boneheaded moves and letting the opponent stay in the game, then they'll have no cause for celebration.
 

Deeko

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What NE did was over the top. Lets be serious though, NFL players aren't exactly the nicest human beings, so it can be forgiven, even if it was wrong.. However, how can someone say, and I quote, "LT is showing is true colors by being a jackass", as if he is in the wrong for getting pissed about the celebration?
 

rsd

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Originally posted by: Deeko
What NE did was over the top. Lets be serious though, NFL players aren't exactly the nicest human beings, so it can be forgiven, even if it was wrong.. However, how can someone say, and I quote, "LT is showing is true colors by being a jackass", as if he is in the wrong for getting pissed about the celebration?

I'd give LT a pass since its understandable that he was emotional. But if he was trying to start a fight because of the patriots actions, then he was being a jackass at that moment. Also don't forget he blamed the head coach for it...:roll:

 

fallenangel99

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I hate Merriman, and I hate his retarded dance. I'm glad the Pats mocked HIM and his dance. Merriman needs to go do some more steroids.

But, Chargers should have won that game easily. Then there would have been no dance.

NFL Players mock each others dances all the time. I've seen players mock Ray Lewis' dance, mock Strahan's jump shot.
 
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