k3n
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Carbon fiber is suppose to be a good thing.
Yup, carbon fiber has helped saved a lot of lives in car racing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPZ_eU8rHWU
Carbon fiber is suppose to be a good thing.
You have to remember too, Super cars are not made to be safe five star safety rating vehicles. Most are street legal race cars and made almost entirely of fiberglass, carbon fiber, and very light weight not so durable materials.
A 50 MPH crash with an immovable object is like dropping the car from the fifth floor of a building.
Speed was a factor, but I doubt they were anywhere more than 60ish mph hitting that tree.
There is no evidence they had braked.
Hiting a tree at even 45mph is pretty damn serious.
If going over a speed bump will mess up a bunch of panels, then driving it through a telephone pole would presumably be a little worse.
Most of these cars are based on a space frame/etc and the panels are more or less cosmetics.
At least people here looked up what these very cars look like at typical 45-60mph collisions.
When most are in a 45mph crash it's really like a 20mph or less speed differentlal or into a barrier that is more forgiving than a tree.
They were speeding excessively (70-80mph min) prior to the crash. Not sure how anyone can't see that as crystal clear after seeing CCTV footage.
A few folks are trying to contort around the obvious truth in this crash, i'm not sure what that achieves or what the purpose is. It's not necessary to have to jump through hoops to believe anything other than the immediate and obvious indications that speeding/reckless driving were directly related to the crash.
Other people who drive recklessly aren't' going to be saved by ridiculous explanations that avoid personal reasonability in what may lead to their serious injury or death.
It doesn't take anything away from Walker, Rodas, super cars, thrill seekers, or whatever to call a spade a spade here, if anything given the outcome, it is critically important to call this one like it is as it will be a deterrent to other less skilled enthusiasts who may want to push limits on public roads.
For one you cannot accurately gauge speed from a CCTV without knowing a lot more details.
Two, although speed was a factor; it's becoming apparent that a vehicle failure was the cause of the accident.
Recklessly driving is also greatly debated when that driver is pretty much considered a 'pro'.
Sounds like someone is just angry and wants to blame a couple of rich guys and assume they were a danger to society.
You have two people trying to show off and arriving in "style" for an event.
Think of the publicity impact when coming around the bend at 100+ and sliding/drifting into the parking area.
I wasn't aware there was any evidence of a "car malfunction" other than a vague report about some PS fluid.
Of course, a car malfunction at 55mph may be something you can recover from and avoid a crash, but at 90mph, you can't recover.
They were speeding excessively (70-80mph min) prior to the crash. Not sure how anyone can't see that as crystal clear after seeing CCTV footage.
A few folks are trying to contort around the obvious truth in this crash, i'm not sure what that achieves or what the purpose is. It's not necessary to have to jump through hoops to believe anything other than the immediate and obvious indications that speeding/reckless driving were directly related to the crash.
Other people who drive recklessly aren't' going to be saved by ridiculous explanations that avoid personal reasonability in what may lead to their serious injury or death.
It doesn't take anything away from Walker, Rodas, super cars, thrill seekers, or whatever to call a spade a spade here, if anything given the outcome, it is critically important to call this one like it is as it will be a deterrent to other less skilled enthusiasts who may want to push limits on public roads.
Paul Walker and a cruel twist of fate: Fast and Furious star and friend 'only got in $500,000 Porsche to take over from worker who failed to park it four times'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...end-got-Porsche-GT-worker-failed-park-it.html
Before Rodas, who owned the 2005 Porsche Carrera GT, could put it away for the day, Fast and Furious actor Walker jumped in the passenger seat and they decided to go for a quick spin round the block.
For one you cannot accurately gauge speed from a CCTV without knowing a lot more details.
Two, although speed was a factor; it's becoming apparent that a vehicle failure was the cause of the accident.
Recklessly driving is also greatly debated when that driver is pretty much considered a 'pro'.
Sounds like someone is just angry and wants to blame a couple of rich guys and assume they were a danger to society.
I agree these guys were going fast. Since they paid the ultimate price I doubt they will really reveal what happen out of respect for the family. Unless the families doesn't care what is reported. There were no other innocent people involve and this happen in a desolate area.
A car can malfunction at 10mph and be impossible to recover from.
Also the car did not explode on impact, also the fire started at the front of the car.
I don't think people are keeping up with the news on this story as much as just wanting to post on the minor facts known the first day/few hours.
Finally, does it make you feel better to believe they lost control of the car and died at 45mph?
Brian
http://www.speautomotive.com/SPEA_CD/SPEA2004/pdf/e/e3.pdf
The car is very well built and would do well in most crashes. It took a lot to reduce it to junk, imo.