Los Angeles County Sheriff's investigators are still trying to determine the cause of Saturday's crash, which claimed the life of the "Fast & Furious" star and his friend. They have said speed was a factor.
Sheriff's detective Jeff Maag told People magazine the driver "was doing well over 45 [mph] [it's] fair to say at least twice that."
That means Maag believes Rodas was going at least 90 mph on a street where the limit was just 45.
He added it will take days or weeks to complete the investigation and conclude how fast the car was going and whether mechanical problems caused the crash.
A speed has been mentioned, stay tuned for more details. Possible speed of at least 90 mph.
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I really haven't paid attention to the map of the area where they were driving, but I'd think the only way brakes are going to cause an accident is if you're going to fast to negotiate a bend in the road & are unable to brake. Well, that, or the brakes locking up. But, loss of fluid doesn't generally cause brakes to lock up - just the opposite.
Mugs. That's a mirror you will need to cross.
It's very clear you are poor.
I "ain't" no millionaire.
I am not a white knight.
In my life I call myself gray.
This is indeed about Paul Walker's Money and Fame.
Joe Sixpack crashes daily. He doesn't become Paul Walker doing that. Nor does the world talk about Joe Sixpack doing it, except for his 4 facebook friends.
Kaido it's not your fault, I don't think you are a troller here.
I know some of the people involved in this.
No one can really say if they were speeding.
They may have been, it's really about RECKLESS DRIVING like that asshat on the interstate weaving in and out of near accidents and leaving behind bad ones. I don't think there is many on this forum that never went 20+ mph over a limit at times.
There really was no explosion at first. They heard a crash and another crash...didn't know it was in their fold and then saw the fire/smoke in the sky.
There was no RECKLESS DRIVING. No one was endangered.
Kaido it's not your fault, I don't think you are a troller here.
I know some of the people involved in this.
No one can really say if they were speeding. They may have been, it's really about RECKLESS DRIVING like that asshat on the interstate weaving in and out of near accidents and leaving behind bad ones. I don't think there is many on this forum that never went 20+ mph over a limit at times.
There really was no explosion at first. They heard a crash and another crash...didn't know it was in their fold and then saw the fire/smoke in the sky.
There was no RECKLESS DRIVING. No one was endangered.
They are really making this out to power steering, but now I am thinking it may have been brake fluid.
There is a lot of leqal issues at this level that the powers that be and the family are going to hash out.
Porsches go up in smoke a lot...it's rare you have a beloved celebrity (except on AT where Paul Walker that wasn't even driving is fucking playing F&F in real life).
It's sad.
Its called operator error
Yep, I've driven a Carrera GT, I can tell you it's a tricky bitch to drive, very rewarding but unforgiving. It can understeer badly and can be tough to correct for (driving with the throttle is as important as the steering wheel), especially if you're used to cars that tend towards oversteer, like the 911. Compound that with the purity of the thing; no TC or ESC, and it's easy to see what happened. Hell, I spun one out at 100+ mph on a track, I underestimated the amount of mechanical grip the thing had, but luckily didn't hit anything. If I'd been on a road the wreck would have looked a lot like this one.
How long did it take to pry the seat out of your butt cheeks?
Yep, I've driven a Carrera GT, I can tell you it's a tricky bitch to drive, very rewarding but unforgiving. It can understeer badly and can be tough to correct for (driving with the throttle is as important as the steering wheel), especially if you're used to cars that tend towards oversteer, like the 911. Compound that with the purity of the thing; no TC or ESC, and it's easy to see what happened. Hell, I spun one out at 100+ mph on a track, I underestimated the amount of mechanical grip the thing had, but luckily didn't hit anything. If I'd been on a road the wreck would have looked a lot like this one.
I'm done with ATOT for the night.How long did it take to pry the seat out of your butt cheeks?
Then you have not been within a time zone of a Carrera GT. It's a car with similar weight balance and handling characteristics as a 911 and is noted for the same sort of dangerous OVERSTEER. It won't understeer at any speed.
How long did it take to pry the seat out of your butt cheeks?
That's incorrect. That's the issue with most RMR sports cars (the 911 isn't RMR it's RR), they tend towards understeer, then if/when you overcompensate you get snap oversteer. At that point, without ESC, it's just gone. When you see Tanner Foust drifting one all around the track, that's experience and rigorous setup. If anything, it's a LOT like the Cayman, dialed up to 11, with a side of habaneros.
I sat there until someone checked on me, still gripping the wheel. I wish I had a picture of the expression on my face. By the end of the weekend I was really comfortable in it though, you just have to realize that its limits are far beyond yours and rely on its grip, then use more throttle, which is counterintuitive with how sane humans think. Even Hamilton and Webber have smashed these before.
Will the real Alky please stand up, please stand up.
It is reckless driving if you are endangering someone's life or the possibility exists.
Unless they were driving at/below the posted limit, the driver endangered Walker's life; that classifies as RECKLESS.
A professional seems to agree with many here that it was no 45mph and 80-90 is reasonable opinion
That's incorrect. That's the issue with most RMR sports cars (the 911 isn't RMR it's RR), they tend towards understeer, then if/when you overcompensate you get snap oversteer. At that point, without ESC, it's just gone. When you see Tanner Foust drifting one all around the track, that's experience and rigorous setup. If anything, it's a LOT like the Cayman, dialed up to 11, with a side of habaneros.
Right, Right.
Find a single review of the car that mentions understeer or a single video of the car leaving the track nose first. There are hundreds of reviews and dozens of crash videos and they all mention oversteer at all points, not a single word about understeer from anyone. But hey, you're driving expertise trumps that of all automotive journalists and test drivers combined.
I can only imagine. I've been in situations driving where I wasn't in control and I can't even describe the fear that hit me. I can only imagine how it would feel with a machine that powerful but so light. Man...
I've stayed out of this thread because I hate the ignorance that comes with these kinds of threads. Thanks for adding intelligent input.
Paul Walker secretly bought Iraq war veteran $9,000 engagement ring for his new wife after overhearing the couple say it was too expensive
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ught-Iraq-war-veteran-9-000-wedding-ring.html