Payday: The Heist

stag3

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me and my friends are buying the 4 pack for 60
ugh on the forums overkill said they will release on friday
not sure if they mean this friday (21st) or next now....
 
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Oakenfold

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Anyone have thoughts to share? The better half is really interested in this one since it's gameplay is touted as being like l4d.
 

Dankk

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I'm really interested in this, but at the same time, very hesitant. Report back and let us know how good it is.

The concept and premise is very cool.
 

M0oG0oGaiPan

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I wanted to pre-order it but couldn't get a 4 pack together. This seems like a very community driven game though. Population seems like it'll be small so I don't know how easy it would be to find a game. Sometimes it's hard to find a decent survival game in l4d2.
 

Childs

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I wanted to pre-order it but couldn't get a 4 pack together. This seems like a very community driven game though. Population seems like it'll be small so I don't know how easy it would be to find a game. Sometimes it's hard to find a decent survival game in l4d2.

As long as I can find 2-3 other people in L4D1/2 I'm happy, so I'm sure you can get good mileage from this until the big games are released.
 

Dankk

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I wanted to pre-order it but couldn't get a 4 pack together. This seems like a very community driven game though. Population seems like it'll be small so I don't know how easy it would be to find a game. Sometimes it's hard to find a decent survival game in l4d2.

I'd go into a 4-pack with you (if you decide to).
 

Jschmuck2

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I think this looks like it could be a ton of fun - I've seen that there aren't a ton of graphics options but how's it control?
 

Dankk

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I broke down and bought it. So far I've played for an hour or two.

I am very impressed with the quality of this game. And considering the quality, I'm even more impressed that they decided to sell it for only $19.99. It's amazing how these days, big-name software companies often release a buggy mess of a game, and yet a small indie developer can release something nearly flawless. I've yet to encounter any noticeable bugs. Even in the menus, before actually getting into a heist, it gives the impression of a Valve-quality title.

Yes, I'm comparing this to a Valve game. And not just because it's "very similar to L4D" (which is a pretty big misconception from gamers who haven't actually tried it), but rather, because it feels like all of the right design decisions were made.

The graphics, while nothing groundbreaking, are very pretty and clean. It looks good while running like butter at the same time. Think Portal 2-level of visuals. The audio sounds equally as great. The soundtrack does an awesome job of carrying the intensity of the game, while the radio chatter and bantering between your teammates really complete the effect.

Yelling at civilians, pushing them to the ground, and screaming "GET THE FUCK DOWN" is more satisfying than it should ever be. The gunplay, while not spectacular, is still decent. It's no Killing Floor or Red Orchestra, but more of a standard CoD type of feel. Like L4D, the pistols feel like pea-shooters. This makes sense though considering the fact that you're firing at very heavily-armored law enforcement units not far into the heist.

This game is challenging. Even on normal difficulty, if you mindlessly run 'n' gun into a group of cops, you'll get busted pretty fast. It's no Rainbow 6 either; Payday is still very much a shooter at it's core, but there's also a lot of strategy to consider.

Unlike L4D where you're slaughtering hordes of zombies, the enemies in this game are much more intelligent. Seeing the AI move from cover to cover, dive through windows, grapple through skylights, and snipe from rooftops is legitimately intimidating. Also unlike L4D it's fairly less linear.

Situations and objectives are different from game to game, which adds to the replay-ability. Even little things like shooting out the security cameras will have an actual effect on how difficult and/or successful your heist will be. In one game, after walking into the bank, one of my partners accidentally revealed himself way too early, which resulted in the alarms setting off. Consequently we had a harder time tracking down the bank manager so we could kill him and steal his keycard.

I know some people are unsure about the replay-ability of this game. After playing it today, I can confidently say there are at least dozens of hours worth of entertainment here. Although I've only been playing the game for one day, I've just been playing the same map (The First World Bank) over and over, multiple times, which definitely says something about the replay-ability. I haven't even touched the other heists yet. I'm excited to see what the other campaigns have in store.

Amazing value for this game.
 

Childs

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This is kinda tough in singleplayer on Normal. Sometimes the AI just doesnt follow, and I'm moving thinking I have backup I just get mowed down. Its strange, cause they can hold off the police by themselves, so you go to cover another entrance, and now the AI follows you letting you get flanked.

The shooting feels off. No real video settings like AA/AF, so it looks really plain. It is exhilarating and feels like Heat, but also feels mediocre at the same time. Maybe with a patch or two it will be better. If the movement and shooting were like L4D, this game would be awesome. Its better than you would expect from a new retail $20 game, but not by much in its current state IMO (considering I bought L4D1&2 for ~$15 for both).

Maybe I'll just play on easy so I can get the layout of the maps then just right into multiplayer. But that might be another issue, as I had a hard enough time getting ammo for myself. Imagine fighting over it with 3 other people.
 
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FuryofFive

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the game is pretty cool., looks good. AI sux
crashes on my 2nd rig because i wanted to try a 360 controller. i think there addressing the problem.
 

paperfist

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Sorry guys and gals, the last time I checked we do not allow discussion of group buys here on AT. Let's keep the topic on the game!

For those that care, the rule stems from the FS/FT forum rules.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2480

Doesn't that just apply to that specific forum? It seems to be geared toward reselling, "No "Group Buys." If you do not own it, you can't sell or trade it." and not specifically buying. Just wondering if that can be clarified?

Sounds like a cool game so far from everyone's feedback which is kind of rare these days. I could use some mindless fun so may pick it up.
 
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Oakenfold

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That's a good thread for explanation of the policy. It's really Gillbot's last post that hits the nail on the head for group buys.

That is the other option we are leaning towards. Basically, if you pre-purchase the pack, you are free to resell the extra copies under out current policy.
See here and here.

Since steam doesn't enforce the no selling portion, how can we? However, we can stop the group buy since there is was too much leeway there for a troll to swoop in and collect 100 payments on a 4 pack and disappear.

Now, with that being said, the way that thread reads to me is if someone buys a 4 pack and sells the remaining copies that would be okay since STEAM is fine with it unless one of our forum members objects to the sale.

Doesn't that just apply to that specific forum? It seems to be geared toward reselling, "No "Group Buys." If you do not own it, you can't sell or trade it." and not specifically buying. Just wondering if that can be clarified?

Sounds like a cool game so far from everyone's feedback which is kind of rare these days. I could use some mindless fun so may pick it up.

As far as I know it's the principal behind the group buy that would apply to all forums, we don't want to see anyone getting trolled. It's a bummer that we have to enforce it as I'm all for sharing in budget gaming but there are individuals out there that would take advantage of other gamers good nature...

I'll also post this thread in the moderator forum just to make sure my thoughts are spot on with the group buys.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the game peeps, sounds like my better half will enjoy!
 
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