Paying in Pesos? Why cant we spend them here?

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Paperdoc

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Our family runs a small retail store in Canada. Whether or not to accept foreign currency is a matter of convenience for the customer, part of making your store "customer friendly". That was, after all, the purpose of the pizza chain's policy in states bordering Mexico. However, it's also a practical matter of how the merchant who accepts the currency gets it turned into local currency. So, in our store we readily accept the most common foreign currency, US$, but no others. We keep track of the exchange rate when we take the money to the bank for deposit and adjust what the store offers to customers rounded off to the nearest 5%. For example, I just looked at our bank's website and it says for US $1.00 they will pay us C$ 1.1465. So If you present a US $10.00 bill in our store, we will immediately say to you that we treat this as C $11.50 and give you change in Canadian money on that basis. Likewise, US $100.00 is treated as C $115.00. When we get to the bank and the rate has changed to 1.1388, we end up getting C $113.88 and we lost C $1.12 on the deal. Who cares!!! We made a sale to you in the store!

Doing the same for other currencies, however, is not our habit because we can't keep up with all currency rates. Someone with Peso or Euros will be referred to the bank to exchange their money before shopping. But let me alert you to something. As I said, our store sticks close to the bank rate within a few percentage points one way or the other. I find it very annoying, though, to see signs in other local sores announcing their standard rates that give the store such a bonus I'd call it a rip off of US customers! Like today we'd pay C $1.15 for US $1.00, but a few stores would pay you C$1.05 or less. To me that's an insulting disservice to a customer (and a guest visiting in our city who might spend even more if they were happy!), and there is no way in the world a store can justify that by saying it costs them more to do the dollar conversion. We do it easily all the time! So I'm in the habit of exchanging my money at a bank before traveling to another country. I usually find that the bank's exchange rate is the best deal I can get. Oh, and another hint for US travelers entering Canada. I have found repeatedly that Canadian banks will give you marginally better exchange rates on US$ than you get in American banks - maybe about 1% point better.

Oh, one more tip. Don't expect exchange rates on coins. If we take US coins to the bank they generally won't pay us extra for them because ultimately they have to transport them to a central location in order to sell them to a US bank, and the transportation costs and handling eat up all the exchange bonus. In fact, in Canada it is common as a courtesy to US customers simply to accept US coins as Canadian coins at par (easy since the exchange rate is close to 1.00), and then leave them in the till to be given out as change to another customer. So any Canadian's pocket coins probably will include a few US coins, and they are all treated as the same thing. I have found that less common south of the border, though. I once was in a northern state town and had two Canadian pennies returned to me as unacceptable!
 

nageov3t

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if a company decides to accept foreign money, that's their choice. I don't really care one way or the other.

I know there are a lot of businesses in NYC that will take foreign currency just because there are so many foreign tourists that it'd be stupid not to.

likewise, I had no problem using USD in Paris when I went, but outside of the major tourist areas it was francs or bust.
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
I dont expect to see my $$ accepted in other countries and I sure as hell dont want theirs accepted here. Too much pandering to foreigners. I'm all for equal rights and all that jazz, but here in the US we speak english and pay with the dollar. Learn the language and convert your currency, thats all I ask.

If a company accepts both US dollars and pesos, how does it affect you? Why is that "too much pandering to foreigners"? Or do you just have a problem with non-Americans?

Globalization is the problem, not the solution.
To hell with your one world government and one world currency.
 

DivideBYZero

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May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: TheoPetro
Dollars werent accepted in Italy or Spain. I dont think they were taken in Sweden either. I dont know if its a "Euro countries dont take $" thing or if it would have been the same when Italy used Lyra.

when i was in italy, they were more than happy to take dollars. same as france and britain.

every central american and carribean country i've been to also preferred american dollars.

face it. the world loves our money.

This post is total and utter bullshit unless you are talking about Exchange centers.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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The dollar ain't what it was...and even in it's heyday only third world countries really took it (and often you ended up paying too much)...

Places like GB, Japan, China, Germany almost all required their own bills to be presented unless you were staying on a tourist reservation and then the conversions were done for you / them.

This article is not about the peso though, it's about a business looking to support illegal immigrants.
 

sao123

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
The dollar ain't what it was...and even in it's heyday only third world countries really took it (and often you ended up paying too much)...

Places like GB, Japan, China, Germany almost all required their own bills to be presented unless you were staying on a tourist reservation and then the conversions were done for you / them.

This article is not about the peso though, it's about a business looking to support illegal immigrants.

its not just the illegal ones... even the legal ones are now unwanted.
its time to close the borders...
 

Linflas

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As far as I'm concerned it is up to the business to decide what currency they will accept as payment. It is nobody's business other than the merchant and the patron.
 

Peetoeng

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In many places in South East Asia, exchange rate of US dollars depends on the bill's condition. Vendors would offer lower rate for non-crisp bills or won't take them at all. They said that's how the local bank determined the exchange rate for US dollars. Interestingly, they would take euro bills regardless the bill's condition with same exchange rate .

If you are travelling thru SE Asia, bring some euro or your HSBC ATM card (is atm withdrawal still free on HSBC atm overseas?).
 

KeithTalent

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You can pay with US dollars pretty much everywhere up here, but I can't even use a Canadian quarter in a pinball machine in the US.

KT
 

Fingolfin269

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The handling would be a pain in the ass for a lot of businesses. Some cashiers can't even count out our own currency as it is.

That being said, if a business wants to accept dollars, pesos, hookers, blow, whatever in echange for their goods/services then more power to them... as long as they can figure out how to convert that into whatever US dollars they owe the IRS.
 

bignateyk

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Only places I have been around the world that will take the USD are on US military bases in other countries.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: polarmystery
As long as there is an exchange rate, I don't see how this is even an issue...


Who keeps it updated and who is in charge of the conversion.

You realize there are cashiers that can't even make change when the register is telling them how much to give back, right?
 

tfcmasta97

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Who gives a fuck what a bunch of retarded hicks think? Just go by P&N and see what happens when they try explaining their incompetence.
 

Babbles

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: TheoPetro
Dollars werent accepted in Italy or Spain. I dont think they were taken in Sweden either. I dont know if its a "Euro countries dont take $" thing or if it would have been the same when Italy used Lyra.

when i was in italy, they were more than happy to take dollars. same as france and britain.

every central american and carribean country i've been to also preferred american dollars.

face it. the world loves our money.

This post is total and utter bullshit unless you are talking about Exchange centers.

I used USD in Italy. Ditto in Germany and Austria. However this was back in 2000 before the Euro was printed & minted and put in circulation. In 2007 I was in Prague and for the most part they accepted on the Czech koruna or the Euro. A few places would take USD, but they were the exception and not the rule.

Anyhow, with my experiences in a few places in Europe back in 2000 the USD was acceptable - not 100% of the time, but for a good chunk of places (the Lira was so worthless I think the Italians preferred USD over the Lira).
 

Hacp

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I kinda agree with the two emails.


?This is the United States of America, not the United States of Mexico"
?Quit catering to the damn illegal Mexicans?
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: bignateyk
Only places I have been around the world that will take the USD are on US military bases in other countries.

all the super touristy places I've been to in Europe took USD, though this was before the Euro.

kind of a non-factor for me, though. I was broke at the time and whatever I did spend was just charged straight to credit card
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: TheoPetro
Dollars werent accepted in Italy or Spain. I dont think they were taken in Sweden either. I dont know if its a "Euro countries dont take $" thing or if it would have been the same when Italy used Lyra.

when i was in italy, they were more than happy to take dollars. same as france and britain.

every central american and carribean country i've been to also preferred american dollars.

face it. the world loves our money.

This post is total and utter bullshit unless you are talking about Exchange centers.

I used USD in Italy. Ditto in Germany and Austria. However this was back in 2000 before the Euro was printed & minted and put in circulation. In 2007 I was in Prague and for the most part they accepted on the Czech koruna or the Euro. A few places would take USD, but they were the exception and not the rule.

Anyhow, with my experiences in a few places in Europe back in 2000 the USD was acceptable - not 100% of the time, but for a good chunk of places (the Lira was so worthless I think the Italians preferred USD over the Lira).

When I did my Med cruise anytime someone would take US dollars you could guarantee they were getting the best end of the exchange deal. It was normally the "Hey Joes" that would cluster around the boat landing that would take US dollars and not the stores that regular Italians shopped in.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: Hacp
I kinda agree with the two emails.


?This is the United States of America, not the United States of Mexico"
?Quit catering to the damn illegal Mexicans?

Just curious, when someone comes into a pizza shop and orders a pizza how does the owner determine whether they are a "damn illegal Mexican" as opposed to a legal resident Mexican or an American citizen of Mexican descent?
 

Newbian

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Hacp
I kinda agree with the two emails.


?This is the United States of America, not the United States of Mexico"
?Quit catering to the damn illegal Mexicans?

Just curious, when someone comes into a pizza shop and orders a pizza how does the owner determine whether they are a "damn illegal Mexican" as opposed to a legal resident Mexican or an American citizen of Mexican descent?

My guess is if they try paying in pesos or dollars.
 
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