PB&J: Is This the Worst Weapon Can a Kid Can Bring to School?

[WelshBloke]

So place the financial burden on the parents packing the lunch. PB is popular because it's healthy, and relatively inexpensive.

PB is popular because people are lazy.

 

[diesbudt]

sad..but it is happening. there was a school that cancelled advanced class's because it hurt the confidence of those that didn't make it. there was a thread about it here last year.

Really!?

BAHAHAHAHAHA.

Sigh... This country kills me sometimes with how stupid we can be.

 

[surfsatwerk]

PB is popular because people are lazy.

and it is yummy

 

[SunnyD]

So place the financial burden on the parents packing the lunch. PB is popular because it's healthy, and relatively inexpensive.

It's actually not that healthy. Tons of sugar, a good amount of salt, and a ton of really bad fat and fatty oils that go straight to your arteries.

 

[ch33zw1z]

PB is popular because people are lazy.

HA. Try telling my wife she's lazy. Get real.

 

[waggy]

PB is popular because people are lazy.

and it is yummy (i love it on celery and apples...crunchy though. hate smooth). and in some cases (like my daughter) a great way to pack in the calories and protein. It's a fight to keep the body fat on her. we are slowly gaining weight!

 

[diesbudt]

one of the worst.allergies to have. you literally have to check the ingredients on everything you eat. i always had a theory that if you inject small amounts of peanut oil into the bloodstream a little at a time, then increase slowly, you could help build resistance and your body could tolerate it. similar to snake venom. i dont know if any scientists have tested this theory on a kid yet

Problem with this is, the peanut protein that people are allergic to is soo bad, it takes just fractions of a peanut to cause serious issue.

 

[ch33zw1z]

It's actually not that healthy. Tons of sugar, a good amount of salt, and a ton of really bad fat and fatty oils that go straight to your arteries.

The all natural stuff has: No added salt (so basically no sodium), no added sugar, and no transfats. The 2.5 grams of saturated fats in 2 TBsp is burned off so fast it doesn't make it to the arteries.

You're talking about that processed crap that stays together and doesn't require any mixing

 

[WelshBloke]

HA. Try telling my wife she's lazy. Get real.

Yes lazy. If she cant think of anything else to put in your kids lunchbox or haven't trained them into eating other foods then she's being lazy in that respect.

 

[_Rick_]

I know a guy who got himself hospitalized, because he kissed his girlfriend - who had a Snickers before. Whenever there was a risk of peanuts in the room, he warned everyone, that if he were to get red in the face, an ambulance was to be called immediately.

This works if your an adult. At a younger age, it is quasi-impossible to prevent children from ingesting poisons. By reducing the amount of poison in the environment, chances are higher that they will reach maturity. Home-schooling is not always a practicable solution.

Not to mention, that PB&J isn't healthy even for most of the non-allergic children.

But this is such a classically American response, that it is quite entertaining to follow. One should never give up luxury, even if another's life is at risk. Institutionalized egoism still going strong.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Yes lazy. If she cant think of anything else to put in your kids lunchbox or haven't trained them into eating other foods then she's being lazy in that respect.

Fortunately for us, we have. Hence my reaction to the lazy comment. I will agree there are lazy parents out there. The same ones, in fact, that want an entire school to change their policy to protect their one child.

 

[WelshBloke]

Fortunately for us, we have. Hence my reaction to the lazy comment. I will agree there are lazy parents out there. The same ones, in fact, that want an entire school to change their policy to protect their one child.

How is that them being lazy?

 

[darkewaffle]

I don't understand why people are assuming children and adults behave the same. We, as a society, protect children. That's just the way it is because they can't protect themselves from a lot of things for quite some time.

Yes, when that kid with the allergy gets older they'll be exposed to peanuts in the real world. The difference is I would expect an adult (not even, hell an adolescent could handle it probably) to be capable to self-administer an epipen. Or to ask for help and instruct someone else to do so. And I would expect an adult to recognize that products that don't have "peanut" in the name may still contain peanuts. In general I think an adult is capable to 'proceed with caution'.

Maybe I don't give kids enough credit, I dunno. But I think that making a small compromise isn't asking that much. I think people are looking at the issue from a "they took our freedoms" pov though.

 

[Krazy4Real]

The mom who packed the confiscated PB&J sandwich thinks kids with allergies should learn "how to manage the problem" rather than live inside a "bubble," according to a local news report.

this

 

[ch33zw1z]

How is that them being lazy?

They could home school their kids. Or possibly go work with the school to figure out a solution. Knee-jerk, all out ban, is just plain lazy.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I don't understand why people are assuming children and adults behave the same. We, as a society, protect children. That's just the way it is because they can't protect themselves from a lot of things for quite some time.

Yes, when that kid with the allergy gets older they'll be exposed to peanuts in the real world. The difference is I would expect an adult (not even, hell an adolescent could handle it probably) to be capable to self-administer an epipen. Or to ask for help and instruct someone else to do so. And I would expect an adult to recognize that products that don't have "peanut" in the name may still contain peanuts. In general I think an adult is capable to 'proceed with caution'.

Maybe I don't give kids enough credit, I dunno. But I think that making a small compromise isn't asking that much. I think people are looking at the issue from a "they took our freedoms" pov though.

So, what age is the cut off? When do we decide the children are "ready" do be self aware?

 

[SunnyD]

The all natural stuff has: No added salt (so basically no sodium), no added sugar, and no transfats. The 2.5 grams of saturated fats in 2 TBsp is burned off so fast it doesn't make it to the arteries.

You're talking about that processed crap that stays together and doesn't require any mixing

The all natural stuff (to most kids) tastes like ass and costs about 3x more than the processed shit, and still doesn't change the issue regarding the fatty oils. You tell me which one most of "these" (the complaining) parents are likely to buy?

For what it's worth, we buy natural almond butter and for the kids with tree-nut allergies in our house sunflower seed butter. Of course my kids aren't your typical kids anyway (I have an 11 year old vegetarian FFS).

 

[Mixolydian]

PB is popular because people are lazy.

It's popular because most kids love it.

 

[darkewaffle]

So, what age is the cut off? When do we decide the children are "ready" do be self aware?

Probably whenever we let them get behind the wheel of a car.

 

[ch33zw1z]

The all natural stuff (to most kids) tastes like ass and costs about 3x more than the processed shit. You tell me which one most of "these" (the complaining) parents are likely to buy?

For what it's worth, we buy natural almond butter and for the kids with tree-nut allergies in our house sunflower seed butter. Of course my kids aren't your typical kids anyway (I have an 11 year old vegetarian FFS).

11 year old vegetarian, nice!

I prefer the all natural. But I tend to not like salted foods either.

 

[soulcougher73]

Sounds like a good way to weed out the weak genes for future generations

 

[ch33zw1z]

Probably whenever we let them get behind the wheel of a car.

so, 17? really? ok...

 

[diesbudt]

The all natural stuff has: No added salt (so basically no sodium), no added sugar, and no transfats. The 2.5 grams of saturated fats in 2 TBsp is burned off so fast it doesn't make it to the arteries.

You're talking about that processed crap that stays together and doesn't require any mixing

Burned off so fast?

The body burns carbs first, then it goes after fat and protein. Saturated fat is the last fat to burn also. Which is why we have such a small "daily amount" recommended for a daily diet of 2000 calories.

Also sodium isn't bad per se. At all. What is bad is an imbalance of sodium - potassium. (This causes the blood pressure issues)

[High sodium intake with little to no potassium intake = higher blood pressure]

 

[WelshBloke]

They could home school their kids. Or possibly go work with the school to figure out a solution. Knee-jerk, all out ban, is just plain lazy.

They did. The most workable solution was a ban.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Burned off so fast?

The body burns carbs first, then it goes after fat and protein. Saturated fat is the last fat to burn also. Which is why we have such a small "daily amount" recommended for a daily diet of 2000 calories.

Also sodium isn't bad per se. At all. What is bad is an imbalance of sodium - potassium. (This causes the blood pressure issues)

[High sodium intake with little to no potassium intake = higher blood pressure]

I'm talking about active children, not myself. The small daily amount of saturated fat is because it's not needed, and clogs the arteries.

Correct, sodium is bad per se. It needs balance. How many people do you think actually know that though?